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Link Posted: Today 8:45:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: clutchsmoke] [#1]
I don't believe the 15 million ghost votes. But I do believe they tilted the scale in several key counties in several key states to push Biden over the top.  Something else to remember, it wasn't only democrats. There were plenty of rinos who were eager to ditch Trump and either stood by or participated in the fraud

What I also find funny is the pivotal swing states of Arizona and Michigan didn't even matter this time because  too big to rig. I can't help thinking they're upset because they didn't even have a chance at breaking it off in Trumps azz.
Link Posted: Today 8:54:36 AM EST
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Tulsa's new Progressive Democratic Mayor from North Tulsa started the race at 7AM with an announcement by the election board that he had 27K mail in votes


he won by 16K.....

his opponent while still a Democrat has a 20 year history in County Politics and has done some amazing things as well as work with both sides of the Parties.

the local elections are being hammered too.
Link Posted: Today 8:55:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By doolyd:
People stayed home?
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Yup
Link Posted: Today 8:56:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Alacran:
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He's not wrong, but I'd be expecting him to be looking for a job after that monologue. CNN isn't going to be happy about that...
Link Posted: Today 9:00:19 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TurboVice:
Pretty much proof the 2020 election was BS.
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Same thing I was thinking yesterday (11/6/24) around 5pm EST when I heard how many votes Harris got. Dems knew they could not get away with cheating two times in a row.
Link Posted: Today 9:04:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Andrapos:
All those extra votes died of COVID after COVID ended
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Oh please, 1/10 of 1% of the population of the USA died from COVID 19 around that time.
Link Posted: Today 9:42:31 AM EST
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Harris currently has over 68 million votes and the count isn't finished.  It's a waste of time trying to have any sane discussion about turnout changes until the count is done.
Link Posted: Today 10:04:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Kihn:



So I am assuming you are going off this graph...

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/375898/IMG_0986_jpeg-3372012.JPG
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Math is hard for you, I’m sorry
Link Posted: Today 10:30:35 AM EST
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Link Posted: Today 2:53:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MrHelper:


Math is hard for you, I’m sorry
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Reality is hard for you. Not sorry.

Just in fear.

Of the Left. Commies have an ugly history. BAMN.

Your crayon addition graph is stupid. Wishfully stupid.
Link Posted: Today 2:54:43 PM EST
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Link Posted: Today 3:01:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By D_Man:
Harris currently has over 68 million votes and the count isn't finished.  It's a waste of time trying to have any sane discussion about turnout changes until the count is done.
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Agreed. But this correlation of %reported with population to vote is ridiculous. It's mostly straggler podunk voting precincts in conjunction with a few larger ones putting in the last-minute seat-to-flip close races.

I doubt you will see more added than 2-3 million split between Trump and Harris.
Link Posted: Today 3:08:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kihn:



Agreed. But this correlation of %reported with population to vote is ridiculous. It's mostly straggler podunk voting precincts in conjunction with a few larger ones putting in the last-minute seat-to-flip close races.

I doubt you will see more added than 2-3 million split between Trump and Harris.
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So your prediction is 4-6 million total more added. I think you are wrong. Guess we'll see.

At time of posting, Harris is at 68.1 and Trump at 72.8

All the memes are stuck on 65 million, yet FKH has gained 3 million since those were made.
Link Posted: Today 3:09:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MrHelper:


Math is hard for you, I’m sorry
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Originally Posted By MrHelper:
Originally Posted By Kihn:



So I am assuming you are going off this graph...

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/375898/IMG_0986_jpeg-3372012.JPG


Math is hard for you, I’m sorry


You’re trying to apply a static solution to a dynamic world.

No matter how many times you try to imply that it was, 2020 was not a normal election year.

Link Posted: Today 3:10:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
So your prediction is 4-6 million total more added. I think you are wrong. Guess we'll see.

At time of posting, Harris is at 68.1 and Trump at 72.8

All the memes are stuck on 65 million, yet FKH has gained 3 million since those were made.
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we'll see. eventually. Karens gonna have to give up the numbers- eventually.
Link Posted: Today 3:13:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kihn:



Agreed. But this correlation of %reported with population to vote is ridiculous. It's mostly straggler podunk voting precincts in conjunction with a few larger ones putting in the last-minute seat-to-flip close races.

I doubt you will see more added than 2-3 million split between Trump and Harris.
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I'm not going off of percent districts reporting, I'm comparing to the vote totals in those outstanding states in 2020 and assuming a bit low if they are down since we see that in other states where the count is finished.

For CA: 2020 they had 17.1 million votes cast.  So far in 2024 they've counted about 10 million.  There's probably 6 to 7 million uncounted votes there alone.
Link Posted: Today 3:15:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kihn:



we'll see. eventually. Karens gonna have to give up the numbers- eventually.
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Just for posterity, my final prediction is Trump (77.5m) to FKH (75m)

Edit: I probably should subtract 1 million from each to account for the approx 2 million votes that will go to other candidates.
Link Posted: Today 3:17:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kihn:



we'll see. eventually. Karens gonna have to give up the numbers- eventually.
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Looks like Trump will hit 2020 numbers. Harris might get to 73 million .
Did someone turn off the dem turnout machine that cost $$ millions ?
Link Posted: Today 3:19:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII:
slow down with all the deets.
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He's not giving details he's asking where they went. You know all the extra ones biden got.
Link Posted: Today 3:41:51 PM EST
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i've been updating this since the night of the election.  i wanted to start a thread then, but waited until more states were 99% final.
this just doesn't make sense to me:

2012 United States presidential election
Nominee        Barack Obama    Mitt Romney
Popular vote  65,915,795         60,933,504
Total Votes  126,849,299

2016 United States presidential election
Nominee        Donald Trump    Hillary Clinton
Popular vote    62,984,828       65,853,514
Total votes  128,838,342

2020 United States presidential election
Nominee        Joe Biden        Donald Trump
Popular vote   81,283,501      74,223,975
Total Votes  155,507,476 which is 26,669,134 more votes than 2016

2024 United States presidential election
Harris          Trump         Total             2020 total      Difference
68,140,891  72,786,480  140,927,371  155,507,476   -14,580,105
Link Posted: Today 3:48:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Stainless:
i've been updating this since the night of the election.  i wanted to start a thread then, but waited until more states were 99% final.
this just doesn't make sense to me:

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Well please keep waiting a little longer.  The count for this year isn't done yet.

Heck, your numbers there for this year are a bit outdated, Harris now has about 68.6mil and Trump has 73.2 mil with millions left to count.
Link Posted: Today 4:22:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By D_Man:
Heck, your numbers there for this year are a bit outdated, Harris now has about 68.6mil and Trump has 73.2 mil with millions left to count.
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which website is the most up to date for that info?
Link Posted: Today 4:32:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Stainless:


which website is the most up to date for that info?
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Those are off Decision Desk HQ, which should also be cross posted on 270 to win.  They've had issues this year with the count that they've corrected a few times, but now that it's down to the end it's stabilized a bit and they seem to be doing more small updates on these final races will places like the NYT and the Hill, etc. have stopped doing frequent updates.
Link Posted: Today 4:44:34 PM EST
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Link Posted: Today 5:08:55 PM EST
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What Happened to Those 15,000,000 Biden Voters?!


Check out the Bell Weather counties.
Of course 2020 is a ridiculous outlier.
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Link Posted: Today 6:08:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
So your prediction is 4-6 million total more added. I think you are wrong. Guess we'll see.

At time of posting, Harris is at 68.1 and Trump at 72.8

All the memes are stuck on 65 million, yet FKH has gained 3 million since those were made.
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I’ve given up, this thread is clearly based on feelings over facts… lot easier to fool people than it is to convince them of being fooled.

Especially after a red wave blowout the low math IQ folk still circle jerking it to internet rage memes lol
Link Posted: Today 6:12:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alacran:


You’re trying to apply a static solution to a dynamic world.

No matter how many times you try to imply that it was, 2020 was not a normal election year.

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I’m not saying 2020 was normal.  I’m saying 15 million votes didn’t fucking “vanish” and buying into a half assed chart that’s incomplete based off of not final vote totals is retarded. This is what libtards do, are we no better?

Making a claim that 15mm votes just fucking vanished diminishes any actual 2020 fuckery that occurred.

Shame math is so hard for some of you
Link Posted: Today 6:20:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: trapsh00ter99] [#29]
Originally Posted By NVCapCop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn0154SaU-U

Check out the Bell Weather counties.
Of course 2020 is a ridiculous outlier.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130695/IMG_3594_jpeg-3372676.JPG
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There are 44 counties that the county result has deviated 1 time from the national result since 1980. These are considered your bellwether counties.

The chart is BS because in 2016, there was 14 counties that deviated, and in 2020 there were 18. That chart conveniently omits the 14 deviations in 2016 because if you using it to suggest fuckery in 2020, it would also suggest fuckery in 2016. The next nearest deviation was in 1992 with 5, and excluding 2016 and 2020 the average deviation per election was 1.1 per election.

Complete Bellwether Stats
Originally Posted By MrHelper:


I've given up, this thread is clearly based on feelings over facts  lot easier to fool people than it is to convince them of being fooled.

Especially after a red wave blowout the low math IQ folk still circle jerking it to internet rage memes lol
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Your right....I ought to quit wasting my time I suppose
Link Posted: Today 6:25:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:

Your right....I ought to quit wasting my time I suppose
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haha but bar graph go down.
Link Posted: Today 6:26:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MrHelper:


I’m not saying 2020 was normal.  I’m saying 15 million votes didn’t fucking “vanish” and buying into a half assed chart that’s incomplete based off of not final vote totals is retarded. This is what libtards do, are we no better?

Making a claim that 15mm votes just fucking vanished diminishes any actual 2020 fuckery that occurred.

Shame math is so hard for some of you
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Link Posted: Today 6:28:37 PM EST
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Hey , the democrats are calling for investigations ... I'm all for it .
Link Posted: Today 7:30:22 PM EST
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haha but bar graph go down.
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Looks like Trump is under a half million left to go to cross his 2020 vote total. I remember when "lOoK aT DIs gRaf" started he was at least a couple million short.

FKH is up over 69m now. Everything added today seems to have broken roughly 50/50. I don't see the numbers in CA change at all today.
Link Posted: Today 7:52:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
Looks like Trump is under a half million left to go to cross his 2020 vote total. I remember when "lOoK aT DIs gRaf" started he was at least a couple million short.

FKH is up over 69m now. Everything added today seems to have broken roughly 50/50. I don't see the numbers in CA change at all today.
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Might as well do rolling updates to THE CHART

Link Posted: Today 7:58:47 PM EST
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Link Posted: Today 9:35:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MrHelper:


I’m not saying 2020 was normal.  I’m saying 15 million votes didn’t fucking “vanish” and buying into a half assed chart that’s incomplete based off of not final vote totals is retarded. This is what libtards do, are we no better?

Making a claim that 15mm votes just fucking vanished diminishes any actual 2020 fuckery that occurred.

Shame math is so hard for some of you
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Originally Posted By MrHelper:
Originally Posted By Alacran:


You’re trying to apply a static solution to a dynamic world.

No matter how many times you try to imply that it was, 2020 was not a normal election year.



I’m not saying 2020 was normal.  I’m saying 15 million votes didn’t fucking “vanish” and buying into a half assed chart that’s incomplete based off of not final vote totals is retarded. This is what libtards do, are we no better?

Making a claim that 15mm votes just fucking vanished diminishes any actual 2020 fuckery that occurred.

Shame math is so hard for some of you



There’s still millions & millions of votes attributed to 2020 that didn’t show up in 2024 and won’t show up for 2028 either for that matter.  The dramatic surge of Biden votes in the wee hours that either gave Biden the lead or severely closed the gap of a huge Trump lead in many swing states is beyond coincidental.  Pennsylvania also had more votes in 2020 than registered voters.

The huge numbers of 2008 can be explained with Obama running and 2024 can be explained as “the most important election ever” with numerous news reports on the huge voter turnouts for early voting is states across the country, but the numbers of 2020 can only be explained by mail-in ballots due to covid with many just selecting Biden snd no down ballot votes in the swing states.  

2020 was absolutely an anomaly on multiple levels and cannot simply be categorized as just another election year like all of the others.





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