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8/17/2009 3:13:01 PM EDT
TA01NSN, bought off the EE here.

Sight reticle is blurry. Can't see the numbers too well, and the scope is as far back on the rail (M4A3 upper) as it will go.

Solution, or is this normal? I know the dials only move the reticle, since there's no way to zoom in/out or focus that I know of.

What's the deal here?
8/17/2009 3:15:12 PM EDT
[#1]
Chicom knock off?
8/17/2009 3:15:14 PM EDT
[#2]
Are there smudges on the front or rear lens?  If not, it might be time to check out Trijicon's warranty.

-X
8/17/2009 3:20:30 PM EDT
[#3]
What do you mean by "back"?





With mine, it helps to be further from they eye rather than closer to the eye.
8/17/2009 3:22:11 PM EDT
[#4]
The eye relief on those is about 1". At least that's the way my TA01-NSN was and the TA31F I got now.

The lighting makes a huge difference when trying to read the numbers too. Try looking out the window in sunlight and see if it clears up.
8/17/2009 3:22:19 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Chicom knock off?


negative
8/17/2009 3:22:39 PM EDT
[#6]
find something a good distance away, and keep both eyes open. Start with the non dominant eye then switch to the eye looking through the lens
8/17/2009 3:39:20 PM EDT
[#7]
Don't look at the dot, look at the target.view things further away than your living room.

If that doesn't work you might have a bad one.
8/17/2009 3:41:32 PM EDT
[#8]
This thing's a 4x zoom right? (Going by the 4x32) What's the max distance I should be looking to see clear with this?

Distance is kinda blurry too. This isn't like the Leupold scope I'm used to tinkering with

Been looking out my window at stuff in the distance. Closer trees look MUCH clearer than those in the distance, which is a given anyway, but the thing is, the distance ain't too much to begin with.

Plus, in the dark (as dark as I can make it in the house, what with the sunlight), I can see the yellow dot a little bit. But there's no man shaped object on the reticle. If it's there, it's really fuckin small.

Maybe I missed something somewhere.
8/17/2009 4:15:19 PM EDT
[#9]
btt
8/17/2009 4:17:11 PM EDT
[#10]


do you have astigmatism?



8/17/2009 4:22:30 PM EDT
[#11]
My vision's 20/30. I don't wear glasses or contacts. Considering the latter or LASIK.
8/17/2009 4:23:26 PM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Chicom knock off?




negative



pics?



 
8/17/2009 4:25:05 PM EDT
[#13]
I checked how to verify the authenticity on the Trijicon site. It checks out.
8/17/2009 4:32:22 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
This thing's a 4x zoom right? (Going by the 4x32) What's the max distance I should be looking to see clear with this?

Distance is kinda blurry too. This isn't like the Leupold scope I'm used to tinkering with

Been looking out my window at stuff in the distance. Closer trees look MUCH clearer than those in the distance, which is a given anyway, but the thing is, the distance ain't too much to begin with.

Plus, in the dark (as dark as I can make it in the house, what with the sunlight), I can see the yellow dot a little bit. But there's no man shaped object on the reticle. If it's there, it's really fuckin small.
Maybe I missed something somewhere.


You realize the man shaped object in the reticle pictures is there for demonstration purposes and not really part of the reticle, right?

Take a look at HawkeyeNFO's post of a TA01 reticle on this page it is pretty representive of the BDC reticles used in ACOGS. My TA01 looks a bit small but not the least bit blurry at any range over 20 yards.
8/17/2009 4:40:55 PM EDT
[#15]
glasses
8/17/2009 5:04:44 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This thing's a 4x zoom right? (Going by the 4x32) What's the max distance I should be looking to see clear with this?

Distance is kinda blurry too. This isn't like the Leupold scope I'm used to tinkering with

Been looking out my window at stuff in the distance. Closer trees look MUCH clearer than those in the distance, which is a given anyway, but the thing is, the distance ain't too much to begin with.

Plus, in the dark (as dark as I can make it in the house, what with the sunlight), I can see the yellow dot a little bit. But there's no man shaped object on the reticle. If it's there, it's really fuckin small.
Maybe I missed something somewhere.


You realize the man shaped object in the reticle pictures is there for demonstration purposes and not really part of the reticle, right?

Take a look at HawkeyeNFO's post of a TA01 reticle on this page it is pretty representive of the BDC reticles used in ACOGS. My TA01 looks a bit small but not the least bit blurry at any range over 20 yards.


Hah. Check that out.

Okay. I suppose looking through a screened window wasn't helping. I'll check it out in proper outside tomorrow.

If it's still blurry, maybe it's my eyes.

I do wonder though, if the yellow reticle only shows up in bitch black, what good is it if you can't see much aside from the yellow dot?
8/17/2009 5:08:39 PM EDT
[#17]
The extreme right edge of the reticule is blurry but is not considered a defect

and yes the illumination is faint & will only show up at night
8/17/2009 5:10:18 PM EDT
[#18]
Trijicon has a refurb deal that isn't too bad.



Essentially they replace everything but the shell for something like $350.



I'm sending mine away in a couple of years for a fresh shot of Tritium.
8/17/2009 5:12:24 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
The extreme right edge of the reticule is blurry but is not considered a defect

and yes the illumination is faint & will only show up at night


I take it you sold it to him?
8/17/2009 5:12:27 PM EDT
[#20]



Quoted:






do you have astigmatism?
Sounds like it to me.

Any other red dot sights to compare it to?
 
8/17/2009 5:16:16 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The extreme right edge of the reticule is blurry but is not considered a defect

and yes the illumination is faint & will only show up at night


I take it you sold it to him?


SELL AN ACOG???? Blasphemy!

no, thats how the are.   The NSN has no fiberoptic tube = black reticule in the day
8/17/2009 5:20:50 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
The extreme right edge of the reticule is blurry but is not considered a defect

and yes the illumination is faint & will only show up at night




yep, not sure about your model OP but the 31F RCO states in the manual that the right side may appear blurry and it's normal.


When I first got it (off of EE) I thought I got screwed but found out otherwise. It's gtg.
8/17/2009 5:29:27 PM EDT
[#23]
Yeah, I tossed on my dad's pair of glasses and checked, the reticle seemed more clear. I guess it is my eyes, but this is weird, since the Leupold I have clears things up big time.

I'm gonna have to take it outdoors in proper daylight to check, so far it's either been through a screen at a long distance, or in the dark to see the amber dot, or at a white wall to try and see the crosshairs clearly.
8/18/2009 2:01:34 PM EDT
[#24]
btt
8/18/2009 2:11:14 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Yeah, I tossed on my dad's pair of glasses and checked, the reticle seemed more clear. I guess it is my eyes, but this is weird, since the Leupold I have clears things up big time.

I'm gonna have to take it outdoors in proper daylight to check, so far it's either been through a screen at a long distance, or in the dark to see the amber dot, or at a white wall to try and see the crosshairs clearly.


You can tune a "normal" scope at the eyepiece and parallax normally to take account of your eyes..... I lost a contact lens once while shooting and just readjusted the eyepiece focus  and parallax to compensate.  You can't do that with a Trij (least not the one I've got) so it will magnify any problems you have.

Check it out in daylight, without a screen door in the way, if you are still having problems I'd get your eyes tested. If your eyes are fine then I'd contact Trijicon.

8/18/2009 2:53:38 PM EDT
[#26]
Took it out in the yard for a bit. The picture quality is clear out to a certain distance, but the crosshair itself remains blurry. However, like I said, it looked okay with the glasses on. What do you make of it?
8/18/2009 3:00:48 PM EDT
[#27]
Your eyes are fucked. Go to the doc. I wear contacts, and when I look through my Acog (same as yours) it takes a few blinks to get a clear view.
Quoted:
Took it out in the yard for a bit. The picture quality is clear out to a certain distance, but the crosshair itself remains blurry. However, like I said, it looked okay with the glasses on. What do you make of it?


8/18/2009 3:28:19 PM EDT
[#28]
Heh, well okay then, thanks for being blunt. I suppose that solves the problem.

Good thing my health insurance kicked in. I guess I'll go in for a pair of contacts soon, and save up for LASIK later if I qualify as a candidate.
8/18/2009 3:32:56 PM EDT
[#29]
PRK > Lasik I recommend it!





20/80 to 20/15 right here and my ACOG's are crystal clear.



 
8/18/2009 3:36:41 PM EDT
[#30]
What's PRK, exactly? I know a girl who had that and her eyes were like swollen shut for a day and then she could barely manage to keep them open for almost a week.
8/18/2009 5:21:27 PM EDT
[#31]
btt
8/18/2009 5:34:06 PM EDT
[#32]
From what i recall during Lasik they cut a flap in the cornea the hit it with the laser.  PRK they just remove the cornea and let it grow back which leaves no chance of the flap lifting later on down the road. Recovery for me was a breeze. I just had itchy dry eyes for a day or so.
8/18/2009 6:00:19 PM EDT
[#33]
What's wrong with the existing cornea that would necessitate having it cut so it would grow back?
8/18/2009 6:03:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
What's wrong with the existing cornea that would necessitate having it cut so it would grow back?


It's not shaped right.  The shape controls where the image focuses. Either ahead or behind the point where it should. When given the chance to reshape it will usually drastically improve it's focus point.
8/18/2009 6:23:18 PM EDT
[#35]
I see. I'll have to investigate this further.
8/18/2009 6:34:49 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
TA01NSN, bought off the EE here.

Sight reticle is blurry. Can't see the numbers too well, and the scope is as far back on the rail (M4A3 upper) as it will go.

Solution, or is this normal? I know the dials only move the reticle, since there's no way to zoom in/out or focus that I know of.

What's the deal here?


Do you wear glasses? Do you need glasses and not wear them? A little correction to your vision will make the reticle blurry.
8/18/2009 8:28:31 PM EDT
[#37]





Quoted:



Took it out in the yard for a bit. The picture quality is clear out to a certain distance, but the crosshair itself remains blurry. However, like I said, it looked okay with the glasses on. What do you make of it?



If you look at something a good distance away, you're either going to see a clear target, or a clear reticle.  Can't do both at the same time.

 






Also, your Leupold may be clearer to you because you adjusted the focus on it.







Let me ask you this- If you look at a white (or just "plain") wall through the scope in the room you're in, and adjust your eyes, is the reticle clear?

 
8/19/2009 2:47:48 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Quoted:
TA01NSN, bought off the EE here.

Sight reticle is blurry. Can't see the numbers too well, and the scope is as far back on the rail (M4A3 upper) as it will go.

Solution, or is this normal? I know the dials only move the reticle, since there's no way to zoom in/out or focus that I know of.

What's the deal here?


Do you wear glasses? Do you need glasses and not wear them? A little correction to your vision will make the reticle blurry.


I have a pair, but my dad wears them. I refused to wear them so as not to become reliant on them. Normally I can see good enough to get through to day and drive just fine, with squinting for long distance (not while driving).

Quoted:

Quoted:
Took it out in the yard for a bit. The picture quality is clear out to a certain distance, but the crosshair itself remains blurry. However, like I said, it looked okay with the glasses on. What do you make of it?

If you look at something a good distance away, you're either going to see a clear target, or a clear reticle.  Can't do both at the same time.  

Also, your Leupold may be clearer to you because you adjusted the focus on it.


Let me ask you this- If you look at a white (or just "plain") wall through the scope in the room you're in, and adjust your eyes, is the reticle clear?
 


No, tried that first. Crosshair's still blurry.
8/19/2009 5:43:01 PM EDT
[#39]
btt
8/19/2009 5:51:04 PM EDT
[#40]
if you have 20/30 DONT TOUCH YOUR EYES!!!
8/19/2009 5:52:29 PM EDT
[#41]
Yep, it's your eyes.
8/19/2009 5:59:03 PM EDT
[#42]




Quoted:

if you have 20/30 DONT TOUCH YOUR EYES!!!




No doubt.  Most doctors won't do Lasik if your eyes are that good.
8/19/2009 6:06:57 PM EDT
[#43]
So what should I do? Contacts?
8/20/2009 2:00:56 PM EDT
[#44]
btt
8/20/2009 5:46:23 PM EDT
[#45]
bump for night crew
8/20/2009 5:49:54 PM EDT
[#46]
It's your eyes.

You probably need an eye exam.

My reticle appears blurry unless I have my glasses on, then it is sharp and clear.
8/21/2009 2:02:36 PM EDT
[#47]
You guys wanna elaborate on why not to touch my eyes?
8/21/2009 2:11:08 PM EDT
[#48]
Go GET AN EYE EXAM.
then talk to the Doc about it.
8/22/2009 7:06:42 PM EDT
[#49]
If your eyes are 20/30 i doubt that's the problem. I would try and find a store that stock new ACOGs and have a peak through one of those.
8/22/2009 7:10:49 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
You guys wanna elaborate on why not to touch my eyes?


If I answer, will you stop bumping this crappy thread?
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