Posted: 4/7/2004 6:05:07 PM EDT
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Can you buy newly made AP bullets in .308, or are old bullets pulled from military ammo all that is available? |
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Quoted: No you can't buy new ap in 308...thats bad but I have never been able to figure out if I can make my own for personal use from 06 ap pulled bullets.. anyone? I'm sure you can. Just bought a few rounds of pulled bullets and plan on loading some .308 with them. by the way, when I say "bullets" I mean just bullets, not loaded rounds of ammo |
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Quoted: I dunno, but if we didnt have the damnable AP "handgun" ammunition ban, we would be able to buy the 5.7 ammo for FNs FiveseveN, even if we can't have the subgun. [/hijack] Oddly enough, a guy on Packing.org wrote into the BATF about the Five-seveN. Guy at the ATF wrote back saying that the AP ammo was only illegal if you used it to commit a felony. |
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Quoted: Quoted: No you can't buy new ap in 308...thats bad but I have never been able to figure out if I can make my own for personal use from 06 ap pulled bullets.. anyone? I'm sure you can. Just bought a few rounds of pulled bullets and plan on loading some .308 with them. by the way, when I say "bullets" I mean just bullets, not loaded rounds of ammo Sorry..posting while drinking...[:)] I thought you meant cartridges...yes I have a ton of .308 black tips...my understanding is yes you can make completed rds in 30-06 ...but... in 7.62 for personal use?...some people say no...I'd welcome any comments myself. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I dunno, but if we didnt have the damnable AP "handgun" ammunition ban, we would be able to buy the 5.7 ammo for FNs FiveseveN, even if we can't have the subgun. [/hijack] Oddly enough, a guy on Packing.org wrote into the BATF about the Five-seveN. [red]Guy at the ATF wrote back saying that the AP ammo was only illegal if you used it to commit a felony.[/red] By my reading of the law there is no WAY that could be right ? I wonder if you had a signed letter from the Owen whatshisname guy, Chief of Firearms tech in your posession if the DA would still prosecute ? |
| Federally, AP ammo it is illegal to manufacture (except for .gov) in pistol calibers. The ATF defines 'pistol caliber' as any caliber that has ever been chambered in a single pistol. Thus, thompson contender types have added most calibers of rifle ammo to the banned list. .30-06 is on that list. There are two specific exclusions, 'Black Tip' .30-06 and SS109 5.56*45. |
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Quoted: Federally, AP ammo it is illegal to manufacture (except for .gov) in pistol calibers. The ATF defines 'pistol caliber' as any caliber that has ever been chambered in a single pistol. Thus, thompson contender types have added most calibers of rifle ammo to the banned list. .30-06 is on that list. There are two specific exclusions, 'Black Tip' .30-06 and SS109 5.56*45. is it loaded ammo that illegal, or bullets too? |
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Quoted: Quoted: sure, they are both .30 caliber, why not? What I meant was..as far as it being legal. The 06 rds were ok by the atf but reloading a 308 round would be making a new ap round ..or would it? Federal law is that the .308 AP bullets themselves can't manufactured unless it is for military/law enforcement. It is legal to sell pulled bullets and to use them for reloading. It is a screwy law but that is the way it is. |
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Quoted: Maybe the day crew wants to comment. If you have AP black tip bullets from the old 30-06, can you load them into 7.62 to make a completed 308 round for personal use? Asked before and answered here: [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=9&t=233415&w=searchPop[/url] No, It is [b]NOT[/b] legal to use the pulled M2 30-06 AP rounds in your 308 rifle. Mike |