ARFCOM, let's build a Model A hot rod ish thing.... (Page 2 of 3)
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Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
Some decisions got made today. Power Plant will be a 327 block I have with the NV3500 5 speed, I need to get heads for it. The ones I have are shot I found out. It will be the Tudor Body Possibly have a Lincoln rear end lined up with rear discs. have to do some measuring. I still really want to do something with that darn Toyota straight six idea of Madcaps, so I am still looking around here for a motor. If I find one I'll snag it up, and then it'll get set aside. I've got an idea in the back of my mind but it'll have to sit until this is done. 
what are you going to do for a fuel delivery system? strombergs, webers, enderle? 
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Arms wide open, I stand alone. I'm no hero, and I'm not made of stone.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell. I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell. I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
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Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
Some decisions got made today. Power Plant will be a 327 block I have with the NV3500 5 speed, I need to get heads for it. The ones I have are shot I found out. It will be the Tudor Body Possibly have a Lincoln rear end lined up with rear discs. have to do some measuring. I still really want to do something with that darn Toyota straight six idea of Madcaps, so I am still looking around here for a motor. If I find one I'll snag it up, and then it'll get set aside. I've got an idea in the back of my mind but it'll have to sit until this is done. |
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
Good luck. I have this at work right now. http://i.imgur.com/Bbhp6l8.jpg 
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Heads?
I have a set of 1.94/1.60 cast iron heads that are on a low mileage crate motor. When I go on a 500+ mile trip two plugs foul. Around town it runs normally. Sometimes they "came off a running motor" for a reason. I finally got all my front end parts in one place to refresh the front end and brakes of my 1947 pickup. The engine will come next. I have my eye on those ebay heads. Lots of places sell the same aluminum heads with a different name on them. They seem to have good ratings. |
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You too huh OP. Sticking a pontiac 66 LeMans Sprint 6 OHC engine in mine. well, not sticking it's there, but the rest of the car ugh, well it looks like yours. Mines an original 1930 frame, I also have the cowl but that's if for body, the floor and body will have to be made by myself, so definitely a rat rod.
My father had a 327 from a 67 or 68 I can't recall Camaro sitting next to it forever, well I finally talked him into putting it in his 53 Chevrolet pickup and he's given me the A model. He already had the straight 6 in it to be different. You know a GM V8 in a A model is played out when a 70yr old mechanic was putting a straight 6 in one 30 years ago because "everyone does that". Buuut there's reason, it's a good combination so "meh". 
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Originally Posted By wildearp:
Heads? I have a set of 1.94/1.60 cast iron heads that are on a low mileage crate motor. When I go on a 500+ mile trip two plugs foul. Around town it runs normally. Sometimes they came off a running motor for a reason. I finally got all my front end parts in one place to refresh the front end and brakes of my 1947 pickup. The engine will come next. I have my eye on those ebay heads. Lots of places sell the same aluminum heads with a different name on them. They seem to have good ratings. Funny thing, went digging thru a shed at my folks place today. Havent been in there in 25 or 30 years. HAD a stack of Q jets but only found Holleys. Couldn't find a TH 350 I KNEW was in there. Called one of my brothers and he said, " Was that yours?" Had it built 25+ years ago. Oh well, swing by this weekend and get it!" |
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Originally Posted By OldArmy:
You too huh OP. Sticking a pontiac 66 LeMans Sprint 6 OHC engine in mine. well, not sticking it's there, but the rest of the car ugh, well it looks like yours. Mines an original 1930 frame, I also have the cowl but that's if for body, the floor and body will have to be made by myself, so definitely a rat rod. My father had a 327 from a 67 or 68 I can't recall Camaro sitting next to it forever, well I finally talked him into putting it in his 53 Chevrolet pickup and he's given me the A model. He already had the straight 6 in it to be different. You know a GM V8 in a A model is played out when a 70yr old mechanic was putting a straight 6 in one 30 years ago because "everyone does that". Buuut there's reason, it's a good combination so "meh". http://i.imgur.com/iS36MJy.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Dw6G0nv.jpg I went with the 327 block because it was free. 
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| Looks like I'm a bit late, but will reply to "tag" the thread anyway. Was going to suggest a 12V Cummins 6BT. That is starting to be a thing I guess in some of the retro rods, but a unique way to power the thing too. Plenty of torque for burnouts if you wanted to do it, and you can mate it up to a 4 speed without too much trouble. More expensive than an SBC though unless you find a 90's Dodge 2500 truck for a donor. |
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Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
Anyone know how to edit a poll? Apparently it's voodoo... nice thing..abused by idiots..taken away. I have a holley on my iroc..until I can afford a quick fuel 4bbl.. then the holley is getting nailed to a wall in the garage. |
Arms wide open, I stand alone. I'm no hero, and I'm not made of stone.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell. I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell. I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
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Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
Really surprised that fenders are winning. When we get to that point we'll mock it up. 
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Originally Posted By Striker:
you can't anymore. nice thing..abused by idiots..taken away. I have a holley on my iroc..until I can afford a quick fuel 4bbl.. then the holley is getting nailed to a wall in the garage. They make a spec carb for a ZZ4 350 that is teh TITZ |
I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them
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Dirty head pic....
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Originally Posted By Striker:
you can't anymore. nice thing..abused by idiots..taken away. I have a holley on my iroc..until I can afford a quick fuel 4bbl.. then the holley is getting nailed to a wall in the garage. Originally Posted By Striker:
Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
Anyone know how to edit a poll? Apparently it's voodoo... nice thing..abused by idiots..taken away. I have a holley on my iroc..until I can afford a quick fuel 4bbl.. then the holley is getting nailed to a wall in the garage. And the Holley will be used to teach the children, my 9 and 6 year olds want to help out. |
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Originally Posted By RobertL:
Friends don't let friends put fenders on hot rods. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/67156/IMG-0181-247794.jpg Originally Posted By RobertL:
Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
Really surprised that fenders are winning. When we get to that point we'll mock it up. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/67156/IMG-0181-247794.jpg Fenders are cool, fender are even better when done well because it shows skill, or in original shape/good condition to show off survivors. |
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Got some stuff in from speedway. Played around with the MII R&P. I think I'm going to send it back. Not that it can't work, it's just going to be too fucking ugly. So for now I think I know someone with a vega box I can get cheap. Thankfully Speedway has the best return policy ever.
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Originally Posted By RobertL:
Friends don't let friends put fenders on hot rods. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/67156/IMG-0181-247794.jpg Plus I love full fendered coupes.
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Arms wide open, I stand alone. I'm no hero, and I'm not made of stone.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell. I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell. I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
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Originally Posted By Striker:
I would agree if I was building a trailer queen..but for a driver..fenders will protect the paint. Plus I love full fendered coupes. Originally Posted By Striker:
Originally Posted By RobertL:
Friends don't let friends put fenders on hot rods. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/67156/IMG-0181-247794.jpg Plus I love full fendered coupes. The top is a solid, upholstered lift off with a built in wiper and I have lexan side windows that snap in for inclement weather. It also has relatively ineffective heat and air. My buddy had a hiboy '29 roadster on deuce rails that was our constant traveling companion. He was much tougher than I, he had a lift off top but got by with rainex and a poncho. No wipers or side windows for him! Unfortunately, he had a heart attack and died 12 years ago.  I kind of lost interest in street rodding after that and the cars have mostly just sat and deteriorated since then. I'll get one of them out once or twice a summer for a local show or cruise night, but that's about it.
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It's hot. But got the body. 1930 Tudor.
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Attached File Attached File Attached File Thanks @wildearp for the coil overs. Originally Posted By wildearp:
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Originally Posted By RobertL:
Just because it's pretty doesn't mean it's a trailer queen! That hiboy has 13,000 miles on it, most of it to and from street rod nationals, back when we were street rodding pretty heavy. My wife, my daughter, the dog and I would pile the rumble seat full of luggage and take it anywhere. Sometimes the daughter would ride with friends, but usually it was all three of us in the front seat. The top is a solid, upholstered lift off with a built in wiper and I have lexan side windows that snap in for inclement weather. It also has relatively ineffective heat and air. My buddy had a hiboy '29 roadster on deuce rails that was our constant traveling companion. He was much tougher than I, he had a lift off top but got by with rainex and a poncho. No wipers or side windows for him! Unfortunately, he had a heart attack and died 12 years ago. I kind of lost interest in street rodding after that and the cars have mostly just sat and deteriorated since then. I'll get one of them out once or twice a summer for a local show or cruise night, but that's about it. |
Arms wide open, I stand alone. I'm no hero, and I'm not made of stone.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell. I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell. I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
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Originally Posted By KB7DX:
For an odd powertrain, how about a 2.3L Ford from a Turbo Coupe Thunderbird and the 5-speed? |
Youngpup70: When you make a Marine go "oh fuck no", you've gone too far. Think about that.
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how about this?
$2800 OBO - I know this has a narrow interest group but anyone in the market for a Ground Thumpin' built 292ci Chevy inline SIX? Specifics: 292 CI
.060 overbore Custom built pistons Custom ground .610 solid lift Schneider cam Larger cut valves Screw in studs The head was decked to build compression Polished Offy valve cover Very rare Clifford high rise 3x2 intake 3 old Rochesters would need rebuilt. Header flanges to build headers Manual flywheel No distributor All machine work to be a " Ground Pounder". Over $4600 invested- Oiled Up & spunned often, But Never Ran. Located in Portland , Tennessee. 
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Arms wide open, I stand alone. I'm no hero, and I'm not made of stone.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell. I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell. I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
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That body is in great shape. If you want to fill the top, you may still be able to pick an SUV roof collision repair panel. I used a Jeep Cherokee, one of the older square bodies. It came from the dealer with nice ribs, already primed, for $200. All I had to do was trim it with some electric shears a few inches off each edge and then tack it down, adding a single inside rib. A local shop was doing several different years with that panel.
Be sure to check out Direct Sheet Metal for firewall and floor panels. The front panels and trans tunnel are a bargain, all the other floor panels are easy to make yourself. |
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Originally Posted By wildearp:
That body is in great shape. If you want to fill the top, you may still be able to pick an SUV roof collision repair panel. I used a Jeep Cherokee, one of the older square bodies. It came from the dealer with nice ribs, already primed, for $200. All I had to do was trim it with some electric shears a few inches off each edge and then tack it down, adding a single inside rib. A local shop was doing several different years with that panel. Be sure to check out Direct Sheet Metal for firewall and floor panels. The front panels and trans tunnel are a bargain, all the other floor panels are easy to make yourself. Body isn't bad. Needs some minor cowl patching, and the rear quarters need a little. Top filler pieces need to be replaced, and I need to straighten up the passenger side door. |
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Originally Posted By Striker:
how about this? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/135/20476587-1310529389046390-8458482237253881787-n-267151.jpg Originally Posted By Striker:
how about this? $2800 OBO - I know this has a narrow interest group but anyone in the market for a Ground Thumpin' built 292ci Chevy inline SIX? Specifics: 292 CI
.060 overbore Custom built pistons Custom ground .610 solid lift Schneider cam Larger cut valves Screw in studs The head was decked to build compression Polished Offy valve cover Very rare Clifford high rise 3x2 intake 3 old Rochesters would need rebuilt. Header flanges to build headers Manual flywheel No distributor All machine work to be a " Ground Pounder". Over $4600 invested- Oiled Up & spunned often, But Never Ran. Located in Portland , Tennessee. |
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Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
HA! That would be awesome in the 42 Chevy. Bolt right in... Might have to re-enforce the frame a little. Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
Originally Posted By Striker:
how about this? $2800 OBO - I know this has a narrow interest group but anyone in the market for a Ground Thumpin' built 292ci Chevy inline SIX? Specifics: 292 CI
.060 overbore Custom built pistons Custom ground .610 solid lift Schneider cam Larger cut valves Screw in studs The head was decked to build compression Polished Offy valve cover Very rare Clifford high rise 3x2 intake 3 old Rochesters would need rebuilt. Header flanges to build headers Manual flywheel No distributor All machine work to be a " Ground Pounder". Over $4600 invested- Oiled Up & spunned often, But Never Ran. Located in Portland , Tennessee. |
Arms wide open, I stand alone. I'm no hero, and I'm not made of stone.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell. I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell. I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
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Rootleib is another source for good sheet metal.
Hagan makes among the best three piece hoods out there, and the cleanest hot rod hidden hood hinge setup. Brookville Roadster has the original forge from Ford and original stamps to reproduce Model A front and rear fenders if you go that route. They aren't cheap, but they are perfect. For a while there was no source at all for steel fenders and I had to have a coach shop make my rears after a collision. Not perfect, and not cheap, but they were good enough. Wescott will have lower patch panels. Those A bodies were often left in the dirt or mud to rust out the lower portions. |
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Originally Posted By wildearp:
Rootleib is another source for good sheet metal. Hagan makes among the best three piece hoods out there, and the cleanest hot rod hidden hood hinge setup. Brookville Roadster has the original forge from Ford and original stamps to reproduce Model A front and rear fenders if you go that route. They aren't cheap, but they are perfect. For a while there was no source at all for steel fenders and I had to have a coach shop make my rears after a collision. Not perfect, and not cheap, but they were good enough. Wescott will have lower patch panels. Those A bodies were often left in the dirt or mud to rust out the lower portions. I like that rootlieb makes the entended hoods, kinda neat. |
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My flathead and Model A pile,
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FWIW I've been running across a lot of cheap chris crafts in my search for a more expensive hobby than cars guns and women.
Good source for Ford 427's still. I would have thought they would all be snagged up. |
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| Well, I should clear up that in the realm of how much car 427's cost, it's relatively cheap. Some are real ide oilers, some apparently are just top oilers that used side oiler blocks. They were sourced formed from 1966on for a few years. |
The war I train for is very different, if only by a matter of degrees.
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Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
Dirty head pic.... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/40084/20170719-200811-258347.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/40084/20170719-200839-258348.JPG
Anyone good with casting numbers? |
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Originally Posted By Inspector2211:
If you're looking for performance keep looking. You'd put some work and money in those and get dismal power out of them. Originally Posted By Inspector2211:
Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
Dirty head pic.... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/40084/20170719-200811-258347.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/40084/20170719-200839-258348.JPG
Anyone good with casting numbers? |