[ARCHIVED THREAD] - A Growing Divide (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/21/2014 3:04:56 PM EDT
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There is a growing divide in this country. While there has always been a divide, and people like Martin Luther King, Jr. tried to help close it, the divide today is steadily growing wider thanks to people and organizations that seek to take advantage and subvert. Incidents like the murder of Nicole Simpson and subsequent acquittal of OJ, the deaths of Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown, Eric Garner, etc… have been used to fill the divide with gasoline and they are trying desperately to throw in a match.
Society is split several ways. * There are the hard working American’s of all races and creeds that just want... read the rest here. |
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I know I wasn't alone, but back before Obama was actually elected, I made the prediction he would set race relations back 50 years. The reasons are that he would cause resentment among non-blacks by being an asshole and ineffective president, and that his inability to deliver on campaign promises would be blamed on non-blacks and further piss off the blacks.
But I've since decided he WANTS division and racial strife, in spite of what he said during his campaign of post-racial unity. I now think "divide and conquer" is his modus operandi. Whether he allows us to be conquered by Islamic factions or some other entity remains to be seen, but he definitely wants us taken down, and creating resentment, unrest and disunity helps that cause. |
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I know I wasn't alone, but back before Obama was actually elected, I made the prediction he would set race relations back 50 years. The reasons are that he would cause resentment among non-blacks by being an asshole and ineffective president, and that his inability to deliver on campaign promises would be blamed on non-blacks and further piss off the blacks. But I've since decided he WANTS division and racial strife, in spite of what he said during his campaign of post-racial unity. I now think "divide and conquer" is his modus operandi. Whether he allows us to be conquered by Islamic factions or some other entity remains to be seen, but he definitely wants us taken down, and creating resentment, unrest and disunity helps that cause. QFT |
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The Chinese were imported to build the railroads and used as virtual slaves, treated horribly, and discriminated against through out the last century. The Japanese were rounded up and interred during WWII. even second and third generation citizens. Up to and well after, the Vietnam war, Orientals of all nationalities were widely discriminated against. The Irish were heavily discriminated against when they came here. As late as 1959, when John Kennedy ran for the presidency, he was widely thought to be un electable because he was Irish Catholic, and people were suspicious that his loyalty was to the Pope.
He even made a speech addressing that. Hispanics have suffered discrimination. Italians were discriminated against as well. Arabs and Persians were viewed viewed with suspicion in my youth, as were Indians and Pakis Every group has put their head down, put their shoulders into it, and plowed their way through the discrimination and doubt to assimilate themselves and become part of American society. They have blended in and become part of us, while retaining their culture. Every group but one. 
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The Chinese were imported to build the railroads and used as virtual slaves, treated horribly, and discriminated against through out the last century. The Japanese were rounded up and interred during WWII. even second and third generation citizens. Up to and well after, the Vietnam war, Orientals of all nationalities were widely discriminated against. The Irish were heavily discriminated against when they came here. As late as 1959, when John Kennedy ran for the presidency, he was widely thought to be un electable because he was Irish Catholic, and people were suspicious that his loyalty was to the Pope. He even made a speech addressing that. Hispanics have suffered discrimination. Italians were discriminated against as well. Arabs and Persians were viewed viewed with suspicion in my youth, as were Indians and Pakis Every group has put their head down, put their shoulders into it, and plowed their way through the discrimination and doubt to assimilate themselves and become part of American society. They have blended in and become part of us, while retaining their culture. Every group but one.
However, none of the groups you've mentioned had been the recipients of almost five decades of "help" from liberal Democrats. It would be hard to overstate the damage that the modern American welfare system has done in our inner-cities since say, 1965 or so. Blacks in America probably made more actual progress in the 50 years prior to 1965 than they've made since. Inner-city culture has become so dysfunctional, the dysfunction has become the culture. It's hard to wrap your head around it unless you've been lucky enough to have been there and seen it for yourself. There are millions of people in this country who are simply incapable of surviving through the fruits of their own labor. They simply don't know how to do it. Can't even conceive of it. Many times I've told people stories, and I can tell by the look on their face that they don't believe me. They can't accept that it's as bad as it is. Think about the concept of a multi-generational welfare family; a family where no one can remember a time when anyone in the family worked. Ever see a 45 year-old great-grandmother? They're out there. More than few. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than, "Hey, you guys need to go out and get a job." And it's all the government's fault. |
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If you don't segregate the people how can you organize the community? What would community organizers do for a living?
If there aren't victims of society keeping people down how can there be their saviors? There are inter industries and armies of government workers designed around creating victims and assisting them. The problem is that in today's world a strong back isn't worth enough to keep you fed and education, even after decades of effort, hasn't been appealing enough, or successful enough, to improve the intelligence of too many to make them valuable contributing members of society. It has nothing to do with color and everything to do with culture. Those who value education are successful. Those who don't aren't. |
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The Chinese were imported to build the railroads and used as virtual slaves, treated horribly, and discriminated against through out the last century. The Japanese were rounded up and interred during WWII. even second and third generation citizens. Up to and well after, the Vietnam war, Orientals of all nationalities were widely discriminated against. The Irish were heavily discriminated against when they came here. As late as 1959, when John Kennedy ran for the presidency, he was widely thought to be un electable because he was Irish Catholic, and people were suspicious that his loyalty was to the Pope. He even made a speech addressing that. Hispanics have suffered discrimination. Italians were discriminated against as well. Arabs and Persians were viewed viewed with suspicion in my youth, as were Indians and Pakis Every group has put their head down, put their shoulders into it, and plowed their way through the discrimination and doubt to assimilate themselves and become part of American society. They have blended in and become part of us, while retaining their culture. Every group but one.
As a third generation F1 hybrid with an Italian last name....I disagree.
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Eventually the wheels will fall off of our little experiment. Inevitable, IMO. Things will probably get a lot worse before it happens, too. Truth Unless this time its different. It's not going to be different. They won't allow it. They're dead set on destroying this republic by fair means or foul. |
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Quoted: I know I wasn't alone, but back before Obama was actually elected, I made the prediction he would set race relations back 50 years. The reasons are that he would cause resentment among non-blacks by being an asshole and ineffective president, and that his inability to deliver on campaign promises would be blamed on non-blacks and further piss off the blacks. But I've since decided he WANTS division and racial strife, in spite of what he said during his campaign of post-racial unity. I now think "divide and conquer" is his modus operandi. Whether he allows us to be conquered by Islamic factions or some other entity remains to be seen, but he definitely wants us taken down, and creating resentment, unrest and disunity helps that cause. |
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However, none of the groups you've mentioned had been the recipients of almost five decades of "help" from liberal Democrats. It would be hard to overstate the damage that the modern American welfare system has done in our inner-cities since say, 1965 or so. <snip> It's a hell of a lot more complicated than, "Hey, you guys need to go out and get a job." And it's all the government's Democrat's fault. FIFY. Stupidcrats love dependent people; independent do not need them, which would make them irrelevant. And that they cannot, will not, tolerate. 
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It's not going to be different. They won't allow it. They're dead set on destroying this republic by fair means or foul. Quoted:
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Eventually the wheels will fall off of our little experiment. Inevitable, IMO. Things will probably get a lot worse before it happens, too. Truth Unless this time its different. It's not going to be different. They won't allow it. They're dead set on destroying this republic by fair means or foul. Y'all are correct but I also believe there is a global issue involved too. Telling me it's OK to do business with a country 3000 miles away that has leaders that have paid to have me killed doesn't sound like a good business practice.....but they continue to endorse it and send our tax dollars over to make it work or to financilly reward companies who do business with them. |
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FIFY. Stupidcrats love dependent people; independent do not need them, which would make them irrelevant. And that they cannot, will not, tolerate. Quoted:
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However, none of the groups you've mentioned had been the recipients of almost five decades of "help" from liberal Democrats. It would be hard to overstate the damage that the modern American welfare system has done in our inner-cities since say, 1965 or so. <snip> It's a hell of a lot more complicated than, "Hey, you guys need to go out and get a job." And it's all the government's Democrat's fault. FIFY. Stupidcrats love dependent people; independent do not need them, which would make them irrelevant. And that they cannot, will not, tolerate. Meh, I dunno. I really can't recall Republicans falling all over themselves to put a stop to it. |
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Meh, I dunno. I really can't recall Republicans falling all over themselves to put a stop to it. Quoted:
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However, none of the groups you've mentioned had been the recipients of almost five decades of "help" from liberal Democrats. It would be hard to overstate the damage that the modern American welfare system has done in our inner-cities since say, 1965 or so. <snip> It's a hell of a lot more complicated than, "Hey, you guys need to go out and get a job." And it's all the government's Democrat's fault. FIFY. Stupidcrats love dependent people; independent do not need them, which would make them irrelevant. And that they cannot, will not, tolerate. Meh, I dunno. I really can't recall Republicans falling all over themselves to put a stop to it.
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The left wont allow this to happen. Quoted:
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There should be a national "Act Like a Decent Human Being and Leave Other People the Fuck Alone" movement for all flavors of Americans. The left wont allow this to happen. Especially when they want to socialize the other Americans' income and chattel. |
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However, none of the groups you've mentioned had been the recipients of almost five decades of "help" from liberal Democrats. It would be hard to overstate the damage that the modern American welfare system has done in our inner-cities since say, 1965 or so. Blacks in America probably made more actual progress in the 50 years prior to 1965 than they've made since. Inner-city culture has become so dysfunctional, the dysfunction has become the culture. It's hard to wrap your head around it unless you've been lucky enough to have been there and seen it for yourself. There are millions of people in this country who are simply incapable of surviving through the fruits of their own labor. They simply don't know how to do it. Can't even conceive of it. Many times I've told people stories, and I can tell by the look on their face that they don't believe me. They can't accept that it's as bad as it is. Think about the concept of a multi-generational welfare family; a family where no one can remember a time when anyone in the family worked. Ever see a 45 year-old great-grandmother? They're out there. More than few. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than, "Hey, you guys need to go out and get a job." And it's all the government's fault. Quoted:
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The Chinese were imported to build the railroads and used as virtual slaves, treated horribly, and discriminated against through out the last century. The Japanese were rounded up and interred during WWII. even second and third generation citizens. Up to and well after, the Vietnam war, Orientals of all nationalities were widely discriminated against. The Irish were heavily discriminated against when they came here. As late as 1959, when John Kennedy ran for the presidency, he was widely thought to be un electable because he was Irish Catholic, and people were suspicious that his loyalty was to the Pope. He even made a speech addressing that. Hispanics have suffered discrimination. Italians were discriminated against as well. Arabs and Persians were viewed viewed with suspicion in my youth, as were Indians and Pakis Every group has put their head down, put their shoulders into it, and plowed their way through the discrimination and doubt to assimilate themselves and become part of American society. They have blended in and become part of us, while retaining their culture. Every group but one.
However, none of the groups you've mentioned had been the recipients of almost five decades of "help" from liberal Democrats. It would be hard to overstate the damage that the modern American welfare system has done in our inner-cities since say, 1965 or so. Blacks in America probably made more actual progress in the 50 years prior to 1965 than they've made since. Inner-city culture has become so dysfunctional, the dysfunction has become the culture. It's hard to wrap your head around it unless you've been lucky enough to have been there and seen it for yourself. There are millions of people in this country who are simply incapable of surviving through the fruits of their own labor. They simply don't know how to do it. Can't even conceive of it. Many times I've told people stories, and I can tell by the look on their face that they don't believe me. They can't accept that it's as bad as it is. Think about the concept of a multi-generational welfare family; a family where no one can remember a time when anyone in the family worked. Ever see a 45 year-old great-grandmother? They're out there. More than few. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than, "Hey, you guys need to go out and get a job." And it's all the government's fault. Couple of real good posts here... |
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The Progressive Movement that was begun more than a century ago is now bearing fruit. Correct. When the Commies took over the Democratic party in the 70s everything changed. Old time Dems who still stay loyal to their party now vote for them out of tradition, but this is not your Grandfather's party anymore. It has taken a horrendous turn. As said above-it will get worse before it gets better. |
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Correct. When the Commies took over the Democratic party in the 70s everything changed. Old time Dems who still stay loyal to their party now vote for them out of tradition, but this is not your Grandfather's party anymore. It has taken a horrendous turn. As said above-it will get worse before it gets better. Quoted:
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The Progressive Movement that was begun more than a century ago is now bearing fruit. Correct. When the Commies took over the Democratic party in the 70s everything changed. Old time Dems who still stay loyal to their party now vote for them out of tradition, but this is not your Grandfather's party anymore. It has taken a horrendous turn. As said above-it will get worse before it gets better. Just think for a moment how the entire landscape of our political system was changed with the passing of the 16th and 17th amendments. The Progressive's greatest coup was one of their earliest. The 16th takes power from the citizens and the 17th takes it from the states; just a matter of time. Until these are repealed we will continue circling the bowl. Along with term limits, balancing the budget, eliminating the deficit and installing a flat tax we might make it. Unless politicians are talking about things such as these they are not serious about saving the Republic. |
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Well, let's start with the POS commie that pushed this forward hard - FDR.
From "The Citizen's Almanac", published by the USCIS & given to every new citizen: FDR's January 6th 1941 state of the union address The four essential human freedoms The first is freedom of speech and expression - everywhere in the world. The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way - everywhere in the world. The third is freedom from want - which translated in to world terms means economic understandings which will secure to every nation a healthy peacetime life for it's inhabitants - everywhere in the world. The fourth is freedom from fear - which translated in to world terms means a world wide reduction in armaments... Commie thug covered all the bases in that speech. Freedom from Want? swipe you EBT - he would have handed them to mexican citizens still in mexico. The next progressive may still do that - right now you still have to cross the border to get one. 60+ years of handouts & commie public schools / unions. |
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As a third generation F1 hybrid with an Italian last name....I disagree.
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The Chinese were imported to build the railroads and used as virtual slaves, treated horribly, and discriminated against through out the last century. The Japanese were rounded up and interred during WWII. even second and third generation citizens. Up to and well after, the Vietnam war, Orientals of all nationalities were widely discriminated against. The Irish were heavily discriminated against when they came here. As late as 1959, when John Kennedy ran for the presidency, he was widely thought to be un electable because he was Irish Catholic, and people were suspicious that his loyalty was to the Pope. He even made a speech addressing that. Hispanics have suffered discrimination. Italians were discriminated against as well. Arabs and Persians were viewed viewed with suspicion in my youth, as were Indians and Pakis Every group has put their head down, put their shoulders into it, and plowed their way through the discrimination and doubt to assimilate themselves and become part of American society. They have blended in and become part of us, while retaining their culture. Every group but one.
As a third generation F1 hybrid with an Italian last name....I disagree.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/30/dc/64/30dc64b6181d8882d0d2e21c977986b8.jpg Those asshats need to be loaded up and airdropped into Iraq where they can get all the Islam they desire. |
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Yes, the racial divide is much worse since Obama and his ilk stirred it up, but I think it’s nothing more than a distraction from the real issues. While we are fixated on the shinny ball of racism and riots, the crooks in DC are stealing us blind, putting us and our children into debt bondage, creating an illegal domestic surveillance state, destroying our sovernenity/borders and weakening our military.
I don’t have racist bone in my body, but I will say, I’ve about had it with this ‘White Privilege’ BS and being blindly labeled a racist by the Gov and media. I’ll be sure to remember my white privilege when my alarm clock goes off at 4:45am and during my daily 100 mile round trip commute. I think about my white privilege every year around April 15th when I’m being forced at the point of a gun to pay enough taxes that could buy a new car. I guess its white privilege when I see morbidly obese 'poor' people with Gov funded smart phones getting carts full of luxury groceries and junk food paid with an EBT card while loading them in a newer car. If that's what white privilege is all about, they can have it back.
Our Gov, media, schools and many areas of society are infested with socialists, commies and radical race baiters. Their endgame and agenda is not compatible with the Constitution or the way of life we all enjoy. I will never understand their mindset, if they really hate the US so much, please leave and just go. There’s a lot of countries that practice the ‘utopia’ you want. I’m not sure how all of this is going to play out over the next 10 or 20 years, but if we don’t change direction soon and get right, we are headed for one hell of a social and economic disaster.
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However, none of the groups you've mentioned had been the recipients of almost five decades of "help" from liberal Democrats. It would be hard to overstate the damage that the modern American welfare system has done in our inner-cities since say, 1965 or so. Blacks in America probably made more actual progress in the 50 years prior to 1965 than they've made since. Inner-city culture has become so dysfunctional, the dysfunction has become the culture. It's hard to wrap your head around it unless you've been lucky enough to have been there and seen it for yourself. There are millions of people in this country who are simply incapable of surviving through the fruits of their own labor. They simply don't know how to do it. Can't even conceive of it. Many times I've told people stories, and I can tell by the look on their face that they don't believe me. They can't accept that it's as bad as it is. Think about the concept of a multi-generational welfare family; a family where no one can remember a time when anyone in the family worked. Ever see a 45 year-old great-grandmother? They're out there. More than few It's a hell of a lot more complicated than, "Hey, you guys need to go out and get a job." And it's all the government's fault. Quoted:
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The Chinese were imported to build the railroads and used as virtual slaves, treated horribly, and discriminated against through out the last century. The Japanese were rounded up and interred during WWII. even second and third generation citizens. Up to and well after, the Vietnam war, Orientals of all nationalities were widely discriminated against. The Irish were heavily discriminated against when they came here. As late as 1959, when John Kennedy ran for the presidency, he was widely thought to be un electable because he was Irish Catholic, and people were suspicious that his loyalty was to the Pope. He even made a speech addressing that. Hispanics have suffered discrimination. Italians were discriminated against as well. Arabs and Persians were viewed viewed with suspicion in my youth, as were Indians and Pakis Every group has put their head down, put their shoulders into it, and plowed their way through the discrimination and doubt to assimilate themselves and become part of American society. They have blended in and become part of us, while retaining their culture. Every group but one.
However, none of the groups you've mentioned had been the recipients of almost five decades of "help" from liberal Democrats. It would be hard to overstate the damage that the modern American welfare system has done in our inner-cities since say, 1965 or so. Blacks in America probably made more actual progress in the 50 years prior to 1965 than they've made since. Inner-city culture has become so dysfunctional, the dysfunction has become the culture. It's hard to wrap your head around it unless you've been lucky enough to have been there and seen it for yourself. There are millions of people in this country who are simply incapable of surviving through the fruits of their own labor. They simply don't know how to do it. Can't even conceive of it. Many times I've told people stories, and I can tell by the look on their face that they don't believe me. They can't accept that it's as bad as it is. Think about the concept of a multi-generational welfare family; a family where no one can remember a time when anyone in the family worked. Ever see a 45 year-old great-grandmother? They're out there. More than few It's a hell of a lot more complicated than, "Hey, you guys need to go out and get a job." And it's all the government's fault. Agreed, I call it " Paternal Racism". The old " you're not good enough, smart enough, strong enough, smart enough to make it on your own" BS." Let Uncle Government take care of everything for you" Teaching people to be dependent.
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Yes, the racial divide is much worse since Obama and his ilk stirred it up, but I think it’s nothing more than a distraction from the real issues. While we are fixated on the shinny ball of racism and riots, the crooks in DC are stealing us blind, putting us and our children into debt bondage, creating an illegal domestic surveillance state, destroying our sovernenity/borders and weakening our military. I don’t have racist bone in my body, but I will say, I’ve about had it with this ‘White Privilege’ BS and being blindly labeled a racist by the Gov and media. I’ll be sure to remember my white privilege when my alarm clock goes off at 4:45am and during my daily 100 mile round trip commute. I think about my white privilege every year around April 15th when I’m being forced at the point of a gun to pay enough taxes that could buy a new car. I guess its white privilege when I see morbidly obese 'poor' people with Gov funded smart phones getting carts full of luxury groceries and junk food paid with an EBT card while loading them in a newer car. If that's what white privilege is all about, they can have it back.
Our Gov, media, schools and many areas of society are infested with socialists, commies and radical race baiters. Their endgame and agenda is not compatible with the Constitution or the way of life we all enjoy. I will never understand their mindset, if they really hate the US so much, please leave and just go. There’s a lot of countries that practice the ‘utopia’ you want. I’m not sure how all of this is going to play out over the next 10 or 20 years, but if we don’t change direction soon and get right, we are headed for one hell of a social and economic disaster.
And well be here waiting 
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There should be a national "Act Like a Decent Human Being and Leave Other People the Fuck Alone" movement for all flavors of Americans. This is the basis for my political party. Leave me the fuck alone and I will in turn leave you the fuck alone. I don't care if you are black, white, or green we can all leave each other the fuck alone. |
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I know I wasn't alone, but back before Obama was actually elected, I made the prediction he would set race relations back 50 years. The reasons are that he would cause resentment among non-blacks by being an asshole and ineffective president, and that his inability to deliver on campaign promises would be blamed on non-blacks and further piss off the blacks. But I've since decided he WANTS division and racial strife, in spite of what he said during his campaign of post-racial unity. I now think "divide and conquer" is his modus operandi. Whether he allows us to be conquered by Islamic factions or some other entity remains to be seen, but he definitely wants us taken down, and creating resentment, unrest and disunity helps that cause. QFT Pure Alinsky, fuck it all up, set the civilians, set individuals against each other, direct them at each other's throats, throw monkey wrenches in where you can, lay back watch it go to hell, then step in to offer up some sense of order. No wonder his personal hero was the Devil. |
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However, none of the groups you've mentioned had been the recipients of almost five decades of "help" from liberal Democrats. It would be hard to overstate the damage that the modern American welfare system has done in our inner-cities since say, 1965 or so. Blacks in America probably made more actual progress in the 50 years prior to 1965 than they've made since. Inner-city culture has become so dysfunctional, the dysfunction has become the culture. It's hard to wrap your head around it unless you've been lucky enough to have been there and seen it for yourself. There are millions of people in this country who are simply incapable of surviving through the fruits of their own labor. They simply don't know how to do it. Can't even conceive of it. Many times I've told people stories, and I can tell by the look on their face that they don't believe me. They can't accept that it's as bad as it is. Think about the concept of a multi-generational welfare family; a family where no one can remember a time when anyone in the family worked. Ever see a 45 year-old great-grandmother? They're out there. More than few. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than, "Hey, you guys need to go out and get a job." And it's all the government's fault. Quoted:
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The Chinese were imported to build the railroads and used as virtual slaves, treated horribly, and discriminated against through out the last century. The Japanese were rounded up and interred during WWII. even second and third generation citizens. Up to and well after, the Vietnam war, Orientals of all nationalities were widely discriminated against. The Irish were heavily discriminated against when they came here. As late as 1959, when John Kennedy ran for the presidency, he was widely thought to be un electable because he was Irish Catholic, and people were suspicious that his loyalty was to the Pope. He even made a speech addressing that. Hispanics have suffered discrimination. Italians were discriminated against as well. Arabs and Persians were viewed viewed with suspicion in my youth, as were Indians and Pakis Every group has put their head down, put their shoulders into it, and plowed their way through the discrimination and doubt to assimilate themselves and become part of American society. They have blended in and become part of us, while retaining their culture. Every group but one.
However, none of the groups you've mentioned had been the recipients of almost five decades of "help" from liberal Democrats. It would be hard to overstate the damage that the modern American welfare system has done in our inner-cities since say, 1965 or so. Blacks in America probably made more actual progress in the 50 years prior to 1965 than they've made since. Inner-city culture has become so dysfunctional, the dysfunction has become the culture. It's hard to wrap your head around it unless you've been lucky enough to have been there and seen it for yourself. There are millions of people in this country who are simply incapable of surviving through the fruits of their own labor. They simply don't know how to do it. Can't even conceive of it. Many times I've told people stories, and I can tell by the look on their face that they don't believe me. They can't accept that it's as bad as it is. Think about the concept of a multi-generational welfare family; a family where no one can remember a time when anyone in the family worked. Ever see a 45 year-old great-grandmother? They're out there. More than few. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than, "Hey, you guys need to go out and get a job." And it's all the government's fault. Holy shit you nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!  " />
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Holy shit you nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://<a href=http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m539/bladedronin/18DCF322-EAF6-4F90-8091-45860CC37E88.gif</a>" /> Quoted:
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However, none of the groups you've mentioned had been the recipients of almost five decades of "help" from liberal Democrats. It would be hard to overstate the damage that the modern American welfare system has done in our inner-cities since say, 1965 or so. Blacks in America probably made more actual progress in the 50 years prior to 1965 than they've made since. Inner-city culture has become so dysfunctional, the dysfunction has become the culture. It's hard to wrap your head around it unless you've been lucky enough to have been there and seen it for yourself. There are millions of people in this country who are simply incapable of surviving through the fruits of their own labor. They simply don't know how to do it. Can't even conceive of it. Many times I've told people stories, and I can tell by the look on their face that they don't believe me. They can't accept that it's as bad as it is. Think about the concept of a multi-generational welfare family; a family where no one can remember a time when anyone in the family worked. Ever see a 45 year-old great-grandmother? They're out there. More than few. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than, "Hey, you guys need to go out and get a job." And it's all the government's fault. Holy shit you nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://<a href=http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m539/bladedronin/18DCF322-EAF6-4F90-8091-45860CC37E88.gif</a>" /> Yeah he did. Say what you want about Malcolm X, but if he hadn't been killed by MB we would be in a very different place today. He wanted black schools where they were taught that they could achieve on their own, without whitey's help. Democrats had other ideas. |
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Quoted: Holy shit you nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://<a href=http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m539/bladedronin/18DCF322-EAF6-4F90-8091-45860CC37E88.gif</a>" /> Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Chinese were imported to build the railroads and used as virtual slaves, treated horribly, and discriminated against through out the last century. The Japanese were rounded up and interred during WWII. even second and third generation citizens. Up to and well after, the Vietnam war, Orientals of all nationalities were widely discriminated against. The Irish were heavily discriminated against when they came here. As late as 1959, when John Kennedy ran for the presidency, he was widely thought to be un electable because he was Irish Catholic, and people were suspicious that his loyalty was to the Pope. He even made a speech addressing that. Hispanics have suffered discrimination. Italians were discriminated against as well. Arabs and Persians were viewed viewed with suspicion in my youth, as were Indians and Pakis Every group has put their head down, put their shoulders into it, and plowed their way through the discrimination and doubt to assimilate themselves and become part of American society. They have blended in and become part of us, while retaining their culture. Every group but one. However, none of the groups you've mentioned had been the recipients of almost five decades of "help" from liberal Democrats. It would be hard to overstate the damage that the modern American welfare system has done in our inner-cities since say, 1965 or so. Blacks in America probably made more actual progress in the 50 years prior to 1965 than they've made since. Inner-city culture has become so dysfunctional, the dysfunction has become the culture. It's hard to wrap your head around it unless you've been lucky enough to have been there and seen it for yourself. There are millions of people in this country who are simply incapable of surviving through the fruits of their own labor. They simply don't know how to do it. Can't even conceive of it. Many times I've told people stories, and I can tell by the look on their face that they don't believe me. They can't accept that it's as bad as it is. Think about the concept of a multi-generational welfare family; a family where no one can remember a time when anyone in the family worked. Ever see a 45 year-old great-grandmother? They're out there. More than few. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than, "Hey, you guys need to go out and get a job." And it's all the government's fault. Holy shit you nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://<a href=http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m539/bladedronin/18DCF322-EAF6-4F90-8091-45860CC37E88.gif</a>" /> Small details. 50 years should have cleared that all up.
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This is the basis for my political party. Leave me the fuck alone and I will in turn leave you the fuck alone. I don't care if you are black, white, or green we can all leave each other the fuck alone. Quoted:
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There should be a national "Act Like a Decent Human Being and Leave Other People the Fuck Alone" movement for all flavors of Americans. This is the basis for my political party. Leave me the fuck alone and I will in turn leave you the fuck alone. I don't care if you are black, white, or green we can all leave each other the fuck alone. Yep. My TL:DR gives me a thought: libertarians believe in the principle of 'Fuck off!'. The perfect libertarian government would one that would step in in order to tell/make both parties to 'Fuck off!'. In this case, the business owner is left to do business with whom they please, and the 'aggrieved' party can go be offended elsewhere. |
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If you clap too loud you will miss the bit about only one of those groups suffering through hundreds of years of slavery but hey. Small details. 50 years should have cleared that all up. Quoted:
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The Chinese were imported to build the railroads and used as virtual slaves, treated horribly, and discriminated against through out the last century. The Japanese were rounded up and interred during WWII. even second and third generation citizens. Up to and well after, the Vietnam war, Orientals of all nationalities were widely discriminated against. The Irish were heavily discriminated against when they came here. As late as 1959, when John Kennedy ran for the presidency, he was widely thought to be un electable because he was Irish Catholic, and people were suspicious that his loyalty was to the Pope. He even made a speech addressing that. Hispanics have suffered discrimination. Italians were discriminated against as well. Arabs and Persians were viewed viewed with suspicion in my youth, as were Indians and Pakis Every group has put their head down, put their shoulders into it, and plowed their way through the discrimination and doubt to assimilate themselves and become part of American society. They have blended in and become part of us, while retaining their culture. Every group but one.
However, none of the groups you've mentioned had been the recipients of almost five decades of "help" from liberal Democrats. It would be hard to overstate the damage that the modern American welfare system has done in our inner-cities since say, 1965 or so. Blacks in America probably made more actual progress in the 50 years prior to 1965 than they've made since. Inner-city culture has become so dysfunctional, the dysfunction has become the culture. It's hard to wrap your head around it unless you've been lucky enough to have been there and seen it for yourself. There are millions of people in this country who are simply incapable of surviving through the fruits of their own labor. They simply don't know how to do it. Can't even conceive of it. Many times I've told people stories, and I can tell by the look on their face that they don't believe me. They can't accept that it's as bad as it is. Think about the concept of a multi-generational welfare family; a family where no one can remember a time when anyone in the family worked. Ever see a 45 year-old great-grandmother? They're out there. More than few. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than, "Hey, you guys need to go out and get a job." And it's all the government's fault. Holy shit you nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://<a href=http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m539/bladedronin/18DCF322-EAF6-4F90-8091-45860CC37E88.gif</a>" /> Small details. 50 years should have cleared that all up. This is another important point, and one that many people are often hesitant to discuss. Prior to the Civil War, abolitionists believed that the practice of slavery needed to be ended because it was incompatible with our values. However, many of them did not believe that blacks should remain in America once they were freed. Those who thought this way felt that blacks were not culturally prepared to succeed in our society; they also felt that the legacy of slavery would make integration of the former slaves into mainstream society difficult, if not impossible. Of course, for decades, this proved to be true. However, by the 50's, things had begun to change; that is until the 60's, when liberals introduced their latest invention, "White Guilt." As the 60's rolled on, the idea of equality fell by the wayside, as liberals both in and out of the government pushed for programs that pandered to and coddled blacks, insulating them from things like "responsibility" and "consequences." Of course, these programs weren't really designed to help blacks, but to assuage White Guilt. And sadly, they carried the pendulum way too far in the other direction. Now, this isn't to say that there were no blacks who had found success in America. However, many were still mired in poverty, and these new programs guaranteed that that was exactly where they would stay. As I said before, it's a complicated issue. While it isn't particularly difficult to identify the problem, to see where things went wrong, rectifying the situation is a whole other kettle of fish. |
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I'm okay with a divide.
As long as they stay on their side and don't try and force me to agree with them, believe them, or be like them - or try to stop me from being me. Or come running/asking for help/protection when their little world falls down around their ears and tries to slit their throats. |
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The Chinese were imported to build the railroads and used as virtual slaves, treated horribly, and discriminated against through out the last century. The Japanese were rounded up and interred during WWII. even second and third generation citizens. Up to and well after, the Vietnam war, Orientals of all nationalities were widely discriminated against. The Irish were heavily discriminated against when they came here. As late as 1959, when John Kennedy ran for the presidency, he was widely thought to be un electable because he was Irish Catholic, and people were suspicious that his loyalty was to the Pope. He even made a speech addressing that. Hispanics have suffered discrimination. Italians were discriminated against as well. Arabs and Persians were viewed viewed with suspicion in my youth, as were Indians and Pakis Every group has put their head down, put their shoulders into it, and plowed their way through the discrimination and doubt to assimilate themselves and become part of American society. They have blended in and become part of us, while retaining their culture. Every group but one.
However, none of the groups you've mentioned had been the recipients of almost five decades of "help" from liberal Democrats. It would be hard to overstate the damage that the modern American welfare system has done in our inner-cities since say, 1965 or so. Blacks in America probably made more actual progress in the 50 years prior to 1965 than they've made since. Inner-city culture has become so dysfunctional, the dysfunction has become the culture. It's hard to wrap your head around it unless you've been lucky enough to have been there and seen it for yourself. There are millions of people in this country who are simply incapable of surviving through the fruits of their own labor. They simply don't know how to do it. Can't even conceive of it. Many times I've told people stories, and I can tell by the look on their face that they don't believe me. They can't accept that it's as bad as it is. Think about the concept of a multi-generational welfare family; a family where no one can remember a time when anyone in the family worked. Ever see a 45 year-old great-grandmother? They're out there. More than few. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than, "Hey, you guys need to go out and get a job." And it's all the government's fault. Holy shit you nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://<a href=http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m539/bladedronin/18DCF322-EAF6-4F90-8091-45860CC37E88.gif</a>" /> Small details. 50 years should have cleared that all up. Lol, lets just let your hurr durr speak for itself . Any smartmouth response by me would pale in comparison |