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4/22/2017 11:36:37 PM EDT
I see this in every field. Every organization and career tries to justify its existence and increase its budget. It happens in every political organization whether it is government, non-profit, or for profit. But it happens. Public Universities fight for grants, charities fight for donations, government agencies fight for increased budgets, etc....

The NRA is the same thing. Wayne LaPierre makes a huge chunk of change. And he's just one of the public faces. But plenty of other people do too. 

I got involved in this not to make money but to expand freedom. And I am doing so at a possible detriment and risk to my personal wealth and income let alone my career and family. A good number of our Founding Fathers put up their personal fortunes to fight against King and Crown so their offspring can live in freedom. They died penniless and with nothing. 

I was raised with that spirit that freedom is worth everything, wealth and even my life if need be. But the way things have been and continue to be makes me have second thoughts. Why be a martyr for a cause that will not be remembered or fought for. All I see is gun owners claiming that they want more freedom and liberty yet all I see are excuses about "I can't take time off", "but I work for living", "the drive is too far away", etc....

Well... folks. I'm starting to reach the end of my wick here. The brightest flame burn quickest. And right now I'm about to really apply the fire. 

With the way things have turned out on all levels.... I'm becoming the pragmatic asshole that I was before the presidential election again. The FL GOP is the same as it always has been. Dealing with the NRA and others at the Capitol is the same as always, and even the election results of the 2017 BoD race shows that the majority of gun owners just don't care. 

I mean Supermoose threw his name out there very well. He was in every Blog I could think of. He was in every podcast and YouTube video I can think of. He was endorsed left and right. And yet here we are trying to scramble at the last minute for him to get on a one year seat on the BoD. 

On top of all that, the Old Guard Elitist Establishment in the NRA might get their damn rule change and forever block us out. We won't know until next weekend but damn.

Either I fight or I say fuck it. But I ain't gonna be tilting at windmills for nothing. 

So do I fight or do I say fuck it?
4/22/2017 11:51:05 PM EDT
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Fight!
4/23/2017 12:20:10 AM EDT
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Might as take off their mask if they refuse to be pro gun and have a "We have always been at war with Eastasia" mindset towards fundraising and governance.


Things like these little gems.

"We compile lists for communications and marketing purposes. We will provide that information to NRA affinity partners who we believe provide goods and/or services that might be useful to NRA members"

And

"We collect and analyze traffic on our websites by keeping track of the Internet Protocol (IP) addresses of our visitors."

https://membership.nrahq.org/privacy.asp
4/23/2017 1:38:32 AM EDT
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Giant wall of text for simple question.

TL/DR
4/23/2017 1:39:58 AM EDT
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Thanks for pointing out that you're too lazy. 
4/23/2017 1:54:03 AM EDT
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MIAMI I offered to assist but you never asked me to do anything. I offered yoi gas money you replied wait

Doing this alone is a strategy for failure  you need to assemble a team of arfcommers and orchestrate a campaign get Florida's private ranges, and gunstores  involved too.

use the community to your advantage.  AND DON'T shy away from the fudds & skeet shooters

IM me my offer still stands
4/23/2017 2:00:31 AM EDT
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Most freedom loving people have a breaking point, they just dont know what it is yet.
4/23/2017 2:02:20 AM EDT
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I hope to meet you in Atlanta.
4/23/2017 9:25:49 AM EDT
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MIAMI I offered to assist but you never asked me to do anything. I offered yoi gas money you replied wait

Doing this alone is a strategy for failure  you need to assemble a team of arfcommers and orchestrate a campaign get Florida's private ranges, and gunstores  involved too.

use the community to your advantage.  AND DON'T shy away from the fudds & skeet shooters

IM me my offer still stands
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I know you offered and I thank you for that. I just seriously don't want to take a penny for this. 
4/23/2017 9:36:48 AM EDT
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OP........I am an old guy and know exactly what you are saying...................just hang in there and remember you are doing this for yourself, loved ones and friends also.

Just the way it is..........hang in there!!
4/23/2017 9:38:30 AM EDT
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OP........I am an old guy and know exactly what you are saying...................just hang in there and remember you are doing this for yourself, loved ones and friends also.

Just the way it is..........hang in there!!
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Yup.... I figured folks long before faced greater challenges and odds to achieve their goals of expanding freedom and liberty. 
4/23/2017 9:39:32 AM EDT
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You get to see the squat fat ass that is me. 
4/23/2017 9:39:52 AM EDT
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I know you offered and I thank you for that. I just seriously don't want to take a penny for this. 
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Nobody gives a shit about your ego and principles. If you want to get shit done, you need SIN. - Strength In Numbers.

I agree with your initial assessment. I can't think of a single fund raising entity that has in their mission statement a poison pill for when they are going to cease or wind down operations.
4/23/2017 9:41:30 AM EDT
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Not sharp shooting here. You can't fight those with money and organization by not taking a penny for expenses and fighting alone. I know your intentions are noble. You fear becoming or perhaps being perceived as being no different then do nothing lobbyists you fight.

You have the passion but you lack organization. You have to delegate.
4/23/2017 9:42:01 AM EDT
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If you don't mind.......let me give you quick advice that might help.

First, I realize sometimes we need to take a breath and pause so we don't bust a gasket...........just human nature.

But.....IN THE END................."No compromise, no concessions and......................... NEVER STOP!!"

I have a feeling that this brief "motto" is already ingrained in your brain and overall essence.
4/23/2017 9:44:00 AM EDT
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You lost me when you referred to yourself as the "brightest flame."
4/23/2017 9:46:22 AM EDT
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Meant to say that if I go through this and run for the BoD. I will really be putting myself out there. Remember I'm in LE and throwing myself out there isn't a good thing. 
4/23/2017 9:47:39 AM EDT
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Not sharp shooting here. You can't fight those with money and organization by not taking a penny for expenses and fighting alone. I know your intentions are noble. You fear becoming or perhaps being perceived as being no different then do nothing lobbyists you fight.

You have the passion but you lack organization. You have to delegate.
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That is it.... I don't want to become like them. 
4/23/2017 10:00:37 AM EDT
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Look you are right overall...........there have ALWAYS been lazy gun owners who do not do their share either time wise or donation wise.

You simply have to come to terms with that and not let it affect your overall mission.

I can't tell you how to come to terms with that FACT but you have to do it or you will drive yourself crazy.
4/23/2017 10:27:42 AM EDT
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You are the one who taught me about the FL GOP.  About the real mechanics behind open carry shenanigans. About how imperfect it is. Without you, I wouldn't have known.