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AR15.COM
8/20/2009 8:28:20 PM EDT
Does that shit work?

Snake oil? What is the deal?

Is it just needles in your skin, or is there some kind of medicine dipped on them?
8/20/2009 8:31:18 PM EDT
[#1]
I vote snake oil, though I have never tried it. I think it is one of those things that if you think it will work, it will. If you don't, it won't.
8/20/2009 8:31:19 PM EDT
[#2]
Works for some:

8/20/2009 9:11:59 PM EDT
[#3]
My acupuncturist is an MD, has studied acupuncture, chiropractic and so on after medical school and specializes in pain management.

I don't know that I buy into the whole eastern mysticism side of acupuncture but I can tell you from experience that trigger-point injections/needle sticks are very effective, much more so than massage and physical therapy for my secondary muscle pain from disc/nerve problems.

Like changed my life effective.
8/20/2009 9:13:11 PM EDT
[#4]



Quoted:


I vote snake oil, though I have never tried it.



Well, I have.



They're plain needles, no medicine involved.

One session usually won't produce results, almost certainly not lasting results.



I believe acupuncture makes more sense than chiropractic,

but in either case I guess it depends on what issue you're trying to correct or deal with.



 
8/20/2009 9:25:42 PM EDT
[#5]
I've seen it done and heard the results of a placed needle. I was in a college sociology class, taught by a very liberal Native American female(during 2003 of all times). Somehow we got on topic about her being an acupuncturist and using peyote. Some kid in the front row had incredibly congested sinuses, you could hear it when he tried to breath and the tone change in his voice due to congestion. So this libtard runs to her office, comes back with a needle and jabs the kid with it in the temple area I believe. Absolute immediate change in his ability to breathe unimpeded, could hear it in his voice too For what its worth, I wore a t-shirt I have as much as possible to that class. It has a picture of a smoking AR15 on the front with "when they come for your guns, make sure to give them the ammo first"
8/20/2009 9:31:24 PM EDT
[#6]
The idea of energy meridians and all that is of course BS.  does acupuncture have some other unexplained method of effectiveness? It seems unlikely to me.
8/20/2009 9:31:59 PM EDT
[#7]
My wife went to one regularly for awhile for some pain management and it worked for her.
8/20/2009 9:48:35 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
The idea of energy meridians and all that is of course BS.  does acupuncture have some other unexplained method of effectiveness? It seems unlikely to me.


I'm a physician, and I'm about to begin acupuncture training.  I've had prior training and experience with military combat vets using a relatively new "manipulation" technique utilizing these supposed energy meridians that has worked incredibly well to cure - yes cure - PTSD/TBI symptoms and other combat-induced disorders, .  

As far as a definitive structural anatomical study they may be "of course BS", but for something "that is of course BS" it sure works good.  If I was a patient whose life was helped, I wouldn't care if the pencil-necked Carl Sagan-esque exactitudinal reasoning was the placebo effect, the metal, energy meridians, or mother-in-laws cooking.  If it works, it works.   And acupuncture works where a lot of our modern methods fail.
8/20/2009 9:53:17 PM EDT
[#9]
I underwent acupuncture for a month or so and things ultimately improved, but I can't say if that was the specific reason why things got better?  It's basically painless so why not give it a try?

Chris
8/20/2009 10:00:45 PM EDT
[#10]
Anybody here kick smoking with it?
8/20/2009 10:04:34 PM EDT
[#11]
I thought they hooked electrodes up to some of he needles.
8/20/2009 10:08:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I thought they hooked electrodes up to some of he needles.


over 9000

ETA - posts not needles
8/20/2009 10:08:12 PM EDT
[#13]
Was the only thing that took my migraines away after having severe muscle damage from a car wreck.YMMV
8/20/2009 10:09:46 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Anybody here kick smoking with it?


Not with acupuncture but I can tell you the way I did it was to wait till i was sick and cold turkey it. So far so good been about 4 weeks.
8/20/2009 10:11:34 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I thought they hooked electrodes up to some of he needles.


over 9000

ETA - posts not needles


"time well wasted"
8/20/2009 10:16:00 PM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:


Anybody here kick smoking with it?


Now... I would call that snake oil.



Definitely better off with hypnosis.




 
8/21/2009 6:17:31 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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I thought they hooked electrodes up to some of he needles.


over 9000

ETA - posts not needles


"time well wasted"


I've heard that about this place....