Posted: 3/20/2016 4:33:40 PM EDT
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As I understand the song "Amazing Grace" was by an English Poet / Clergyman
So why is it so often associated with the Scott's? I like The German Version 
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Possibly, It has to be one of my all time favorite songs. Quoted:
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Just because the bagpipes rock Possibly, It has to be one of my all time favorite songs. I believe that the song was written by a man who was a British or Scotish slaver turned evangelist even after having thrown slaves overboard to drown in the sea as a convenience when he thought it necessary. His name was John Newton. |
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Just because the bagpipes rock Possibly, It has to be one of my all time favorite songs. I mean why its associated with the Scots. The song is great without the pipes. It just becomes otherworldly when the pipes start up, to me. |
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Every time I hear that played by massed pipes and an orchestra, it brings tears to my eyes, and a catch in my breath. Very moving music, that is. Because of the music or the message? For me its the message For me it would be both |
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Every time I hear that played by massed pipes and an orchestra, it brings tears to my eyes, and a catch in my breath. Very moving music, that is. Because of the music or the message? For me its the message For me it would be both ^ Yeah, 
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Every time I hear that played by massed pipes and an orchestra, it brings tears to my eyes, and a catch in my breath. Very moving music, that is. Because of the music or the message? For me its the message For me it would be both Both but even if there are no lyrics It still moves me. |
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Fixed for you That's the one I bought this morning! |
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I mean why its associated with the Scots. The song is great without the pipes. It just becomes otherworldly when the pipes start up, to me. Quoted:
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Just because the bagpipes rock Possibly, It has to be one of my all time favorite songs. I mean why its associated with the Scots. The song is great without the pipes. It just becomes otherworldly when the pipes start up, to me. Because the music was a piece of Scottish music, before the Amazing Grace lyrics were written. The lyrics were added to an existing piece of music, to create Amazing Grace. Now, people hear it being played on bagpipes, and assume that they are playing Amazing Grace. |
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Because the music was a piece of Scottish music, before the Amazing Grace lyrics were written. The lyrics were added to an existing piece of music, to create Amazing Grace. Now, people hear it being played on bagpipes, and assume that they are playing Amazing Grace. Quoted:
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Just because the bagpipes rock Possibly, It has to be one of my all time favorite songs. I mean why its associated with the Scots. The song is great without the pipes. It just becomes otherworldly when the pipes start up, to me. Because the music was a piece of Scottish music, before the Amazing Grace lyrics were written. The lyrics were added to an existing piece of music, to create Amazing Grace. Now, people hear it being played on bagpipes, and assume that they are playing Amazing Grace. What was the original Piece called? |
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Just because the bagpipes rock Possibly, It has to be one of my all time favorite songs. I mean why its associated with the Scots. The song is great without the pipes. It just becomes otherworldly when the pipes start up, to me. Because the music was a piece of Scottish music, before the Amazing Grace lyrics were written. The lyrics were added to an existing piece of music, to create Amazing Grace. Now, people hear it being played on bagpipes, and assume that they are playing Amazing Grace. What was the original Piece called? If I heard the name of the original piece, I don't remember it. I got the explanation in the 1980s, when I heard it played on bagpipes, commented that it was the first time I had ever heard Amazing Grace played on bagpipes, and was told that it was not Amazing Grace, but a traditional Scottish piece that was borrowed for Amazing Grace. |
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The music is "New Britain" which was around for a long tme before it was combined with Newton's words in the mid 1800’s. Amazing Grace was likely a chant when it was first preached by Newton in the late 1700’s. Turned out to be a winning mash-up! Eta: Bagpipes in one form or another pre-date just about everybody in Europe so they spread out in different forms as Europe took shape. Not sure why the Scots ran with them to the extent that they have bcome synonymous. I would imagine they took hold on the battlefields of more than just Scotland. |
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The tune for Amazing Grace is a song called New Britain. It's a traditional song of unknown origin. I don't believe it is Scottish.
It is however a tune that translates well to the bagpipes, and I believe was often played on bagpipes at funerals and other religious events in areas in the U.S. with a heavily Scottish population. I suppose this is why it came to be associated as a "Scottish Hymn". |
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I have always liked that song, but with massed pipes it is truly moving. I heard it once inside a small VFW hall that was hosting a pipers gathering...there were about 50 pipers and around 30 drummers...it was deafening, marvelous, moving, and there was something about hearing it that way that made it seem to from mere music to a true religious experience.
There is a very good reason why the English considered the bagpipes a weapon of war for a very long time. Longshanks knew how the pipes could move the Scots to fight. During WWII my Father was in a unit that had it's own pipers, and he said they would often play when they were on the march, and some times after a very brutal battle.. He told me about one time when his unit and the Germans both lost many men during a battle that day...everyone knows that you aren't supposed to skyline yourself by standing on a hill top with open sky behind you as it makes it easy for the enemy to shoot you. After all the fighting that day, his unit's piper began playing a piece that was to honor the fallen, and he walked up onto the top of the hill, and just walked back and forth playing the pipes in honor of the fallen. Apparently even the Germans knew what the piper was trying to express, because they just left him alone to continue playing. |
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I have always liked that song, but with massed pipes it is truly moving. I heard it once inside a small VFW hall that was hosting a pipers gathering...there were about 50 pipers and around 30 drummers...it was deafening, marvelous, moving, and there was something about hearing it that way that made it seem to from mere music to a true religious experience. There is a very good reason why the English considered the bagpipes a weapon of war for a very long time. Longshanks knew how the pipes could move the Scots to fight. During WWII my Father was in a unit that had it's own pipers, and he said they would often play when they were on the march, and some times after a very brutal battle.. He told me about one time when his unit and the Germans both lost many men during a battle that day...everyone knows that you aren't supposed to skyline yourself by standing on a hill top with open sky behind you as it makes it easy for the enemy to shoot you. After all the fighting that day, his unit's piper began playing a piece that was to honor the fallen, and he walked up onto the top of the hill, and just walked back and forth playing the pipes in honor of the fallen. Apparently even the Germans knew what the piper was trying to express, because they just left him alone to continue playing. I believe true fighting men respect those who fell in battle. |