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10/5/2015 7:07:20 PM EDT
What is the history of Amendment 16?  Who passed this??




Amendment 1 Freedoms, Petitions, Assembly
Amendment 2 Right to bear arms
Amendment 3 Quartering of soldiers
Amendment 4 Search and arrest
Amendment 5 Rights in criminal cases
Amendment 6 Right to a fair trial
Amendment 7 Rights in civil cases
Amendment 8 Bail, fines, punishment
Amendment 9 Rights retained by the People
Amendment 10 States' rights  

Later Amendments
Amendment 11 Lawsuits against states
Amendment 12 Presidential elections
Amendment 13 Abolition of slavery
Amendment 14 Civil rights
Amendment 15 Black suffrage
Amendment 16 Income taxes
Amendment 17 Senatorial elections
Amendment 18 Prohibition of liquor
Amendment 19 Women's suffrage
Amendment 20 Terms of office
Amendment 21 Repeal of Prohibition
Amendment 22 Term Limits for the Presidency
Amendment 23 Washington, D.C., suffrage
Amendment 24 Abolition of poll taxes
Amendment 25 Presidential succession
Amendment 26 18-year-old suffrage
Amendment 27 Congressional pay raises
10/5/2015 7:18:46 PM EDT
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Wasn't it soon after the Fed reserve was created.
10/5/2015 7:19:15 PM EDT
[#2]
It's number 17 that screwed us for good.
10/5/2015 7:23:52 PM EDT
[#3]
We should erase all of them back to 15 and start over from there.
10/5/2015 7:26:35 PM EDT
[#4]
The 16th was never actually passed.  They just claimed it was, and moved on.

Same as the Hughes Amendment.

10/5/2015 7:28:04 PM EDT
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The 16th was never actually passed.  They just claimed it was, and moved on.

Same as the Hughes Amendment.

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10/5/2015 7:30:16 PM EDT
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It's number 17 that screwed us for good.
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Sixteen was worse.  Furthermore, it was never properly ratified.  Sixteenth allowed for the growth of the government and before that, it was limited to income generated by the tariffs (and other small fees).
10/5/2015 7:31:17 PM EDT
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The 16th was never actually passed.  They just claimed it was, and moved on.

Same as the Hughes Amendment.




I think I have seen your newsletter


The fact that you have access to the key to decrypt it is fairly impressive.

10/5/2015 7:31:34 PM EDT
[#8]
16 Aint just about taxes. It is the foundation of the entire Federal Government since the new deal.
10/5/2015 7:31:34 PM EDT
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Wasn't it soon after the Fed reserve was created.
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Yes, the Fed needs an income tax. Without it, a debt based monetary system is impossible.

Get rid of income tax, the Fed can't survive.

The income tax feeds the monstrous medusa head that is DC or the Federal Level of government in the US.

As as said above, it never passed. There were two few votes needed. It was outright fraud by the the Speaker of the House at the time.

See my sigline for a doozy of an explanation.
10/5/2015 8:02:47 PM EDT
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The 16th Amendment didn't actually legalize income taxes. We had income taxes before that. However, the Supreme Court had held that income taxes had to be apportioned by state. The 16th Amendment made it possible for federal income taxes to be levied uniformly throughout the country, without regard to apportionment.
10/5/2015 8:11:59 PM EDT
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What is the history of Amendment 16?  Who passed this??




Amendment 1 Freedoms, Petitions, Assembly
Amendment 2 Right to bear arms
Amendment 3 Quartering of soldiers
Amendment 4 Search and arrest
Amendment 5 Rights in criminal cases
Amendment 6 Right to a fair trial
Amendment 7 Rights in civil cases
Amendment 8 Bail, fines, punishment
Amendment 9 Rights retained by the People
Amendment 10 States' rights  

Later Amendments
Amendment 11 Lawsuits against states
Amendment 12 Presidential elections
Amendment 13 Abolition of slavery
Amendment 14 Civil rights
Amendment 15 Black suffrage
Amendment 16 Income taxes
Amendment 17 Senatorial elections
Amendment 18 Prohibition of liquor
Amendment 19 Women's suffrage
Amendment 20 Terms of office
Amendment 21 Repeal of Prohibition
Amendment 22 Term Limits for the Presidency
Amendment 23 Washington, D.C., suffrage
Amendment 24 Abolition of poll taxes
Amendment 25 Presidential succession
Amendment 26 18-year-old suffrage
Amendment 27 Congressional pay raises
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The answer to the "Who passed it?" question is Congress adopted the amendment language by a 2/3rds majority vote of both the House and the Senate.  It was then sent to the states for ratification, and at least 3/4ths of the state legislatures voted to ratify the amendment.  Article V of the Constitution outlines the process.  It also outlines the process whereby the states can bypass Congress and propose amendments via a convention of state delegations (like repealing the 16th and/or 17th amendments).  The ratification process would be the same whether the amendment is proposed by Congress or a convention of the states.