[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Americans Captured (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/7/2004 6:49:40 AM EDT
| Fox breaking. Aid to Sadr says Americans captured by militia...... |
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Quoted: Looking into this, I'd heard that Sadr had called for Americans to be captured in his morning sermon/hate rant today. Andy That's double shit wobblin... Are we going to have our own Arafat in this Sadr?? Do prisoner exchanges for terrorists, like Israel?? Word is out, too, the Sunnis and Shittes are co-ordinating... A history making development, for the WHOLE middle-east, if true..... |
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I guess I have to look at the source. And you Liberty86, are not a very good source of information. I read they were CALLING for the capture of US troops. That's different then your chicken little sky is falling slant on things. Go figure... Nothing on the Fox website to back this up. |
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Quoted: 2 reporters captured Well- that IS good news. Hopefully it was Katie Couric and Matt Lauer. Or any of the rest of the shill left that makes up ABC, NBC or CBS. Seriously tho, I DOUBT our boys are gonna LET themselves be captured. Too much water under the bridge. Death before dishonor. |
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Quoted: Reporters captured. Why am I ok with that?? I shouldn't be but am... Hmm.... i know what you are saying, BUT if you read about what happend to western journalist (especially the women) that were captured by the taliban and AQ in afg. you would prob. change your mind. i wouldn't wish that on anyone |
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Quoted: Quoted: Reporters captured. Why am I ok with that?? I shouldn't be but am... Hmm.... i know what you are saying, BUT if you read about what happend to western journalist (especially the women) that were captured by the taliban and AQ in afg. you would prob. change your mind. i wouldn't wish that on anyone Yeah I know. Maybe this will demonstrate to the leftist media that we are not dealing with rational people here. I hope they are ok. |
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What happens to the reporters may be truly terrible, but what idiot carries a microphone instead of a weapon into a combat zone? Do reporters really naively think animals like this will respect them as reporters? Sad but very predictable. I will enjoy seeing the Marines give the goat screwing Muslims a total arse stomping when they try to lay hold of them. |
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You'll probably see a dramatic shift in reporters' attitudes about the Iraq war if another "Danny Pearle" happens in Iraq. To the media, it seems to be okay if the bad things are happening in front of their cameras and to someone else but something entirely different if they get it. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Reporters captured. Why am I ok with that?? I shouldn't be but am... Hmm.... i know what you are saying, BUT if you read about what happend to western journalist (especially the women) that were captured by the taliban and AQ in afg. you would prob. change your mind. i wouldn't wish that on anyone I agree with Absolut. They are American citizens and although we don't agree with their liberal BS, they are not the enemy we should be wishing death upon. Not yet anyway. |
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Quoted: What happens to the reporters may be truly terrible, but what idiot carries a microphone instead of a weapon into a combat zone? Do reporters really naively think animals like this will respect them as reporters? Sad but very predictable. I will enjoy seeing the Marines rip the goat screwing Muslims a total arse stomping when they try to lay hold of them. Guy I went to college with was going to Iraq to do some kinda documentary or some shit. He asked if I might want to join the group going over. First question out of my mouth was, can I carry a gun with me. He said no we wouldn't be allowed to. I told him there was no fucking way in hell you'd catch me in that sandpit without one and turned down the offer. It would ahve actually paid twice what I make right now, but that still ain't enough to go to Iraq unarmed. In the end they ended up not going because of some fincacial shit. Any reporter that would go unarmed into that fucking place is crazy, or just hardcore. Either way if I can't have the means to protect myself in a war zone, fuck that. Especially a war zone where the enemy is unkown, and just being American is enough to get you killed regardless of being a reporter a solder or anything else. I hope they end up being ok, but thats about all I'll say about them. |
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Quoted: [DUh Mode] Well, serves them right for having been there! I didn't ask them to go. They weren't representing ME. They knew the risks! Screw 'em! [/DUh Mode] Sound familiar, boys and girls? [rolleyes] Ain't that the truth. If these were soldiers or contractors you'd hear all that crap and more. But I seriously hope no harm is done to any Americans even if they are reporters. But IF they are harmed, maybe the lefties will stop viewing the Iraqis as 'freedom fighters' and start looking at them as the animals that they truly are. |
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Quoted: Yeah I know. Maybe this will demonstrate to the leftist media that we are not dealing with rational people here. I hope they are ok. No, the leftist journalists will just blame Bush and his 'illegal war' with Iraq. They'll never get it, because their indoctrination that all people are inherently good won't let them. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas... |
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Hey, fellas, could be a good guy reporter out there. Mike Kelly died in Iraq. Regardless of their political views, I hope they come home safe. Provided that they've actually been captured. Will make Sadr look like a pussy, tho. Says he's going to capture US troops and grabs reporters. Jackass. |
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This sucks. I feel sorry for them regardless of their views. I am pro-Bush and pro-Iraq war, but, I am concerned that this conflict will end badly. I'm not trying to say pull out or anything like that, I just feel that it may not be another Vietnam, but it could turn into U.S. version of what happened to the USSR in Afghanistan. My concern lies with fanatics. They use "religion" to incite people and misinformation. It's tough to stop that. The Israelis just fire rockets into cities and kill clerics with collateral damage not being of concern. I think that's where we're headed. Right now, I wouldn't want Bush's job. Talk about serious fucking on the job pressure! |
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Quoted: Right now, I wouldn't want Bush's job. Talk about serious fucking on the job pressure! That's GWB Jr.'s job to make those extemely tough decisions. FIW: Everyone should pick up a copy of Mar 2004 Rob K. Brown's Soldier of Fortune Magazine, and read page 27, "Should Journalists Carry Weapons?" by Bob Poos. {col. Chgarlie} Bechwith, when I was leaving Plei Me, noticed I had no weapn and ordered a SGM to fetch me an M16 and a sack full of magazines. I told him that in spite of what he had head me doing for the last 3-4 days and nights -- manning a 1919A6 machine gun -- I was still, technically speaking, a non-combatant. 'ain't no such thing in these mountains, boy. Take the rifle!' |
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Quoted: This sucks. I feel sorry for them regardless of their views. I am pro-Bush and pro-Iraq war, but, I am concerned that this conflict will end badly. I'm not trying to say pull out or anything like that, I just feel that it may not be another Vietnam, but it could turn into U.S. version of what happened to the USSR in Afghanistan. My concern lies with fanatics. They use "religion" to incite people and misinformation. It's tough to stop that. The Israelis just fire rockets into cities and kill clerics with collateral damage not being of concern. I think that's where we're headed. Right now, I wouldn't want Bush's job. Talk about serious fucking on the job pressure! It's a balancing act... Right now, we have the old guard fighting the Marines in in Fallujah, and Sadr Jr trying to make a name for himself... The guy running the Shiite uprising is the Iraqi version of 'Rev' Al Sharpton. He's not well liked by the majority, and is trading on his father's name (his dad was killed by Saddam in the 90s). He is using this revolt as a means to try and challenge the power of Sistani & the 'mainstream' establishment, relying on the 'it's our turn to rule' sentiment among the poorer Shiites, in an almost communistic manner... Both factions are minorities that stuck their heads up to make a power grab... Both will be defeated... The trick, however, is to defeat them in a manner that convinces the rest of the country they deserved it... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Right now, I wouldn't want Bush's job. Talk about serious fucking on the job pressure! That's GWB Jr.'s job to make those extemely tough decisions. FIW: Everyone should pick up a copy of Mar 2004 Rob K. Brown's Soldier of Fortune Magazine, and read page 27, "Should Journalists Carry Weapons?" by Bob Poos. {col. Chgarlie} Bechwith, when I was leaving Plei Me, noticed I had no weapn and ordered a SGM to fetch me an M16 and a sack full of magazines. I told him that in spite of what he had head me doing for the last 3-4 days and nights -- manning a 1919A6 machine gun -- I was still, technically speaking, a non-combatant. 'ain't no such thing in these mountains, boy. Take the rifle!' Joe Galloway packed a Swedish K in Vietnam while working as a reporter. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Right now, I wouldn't want Bush's job. Talk about serious fucking on the job pressure! That's GWB Jr.'s job to make those extemely tough decisions. FIW: Everyone should pick up a copy of Mar 2004 Rob K. Brown's Soldier of Fortune Magazine, and read page 27, "Should Journalists Carry Weapons?" by Bob Poos. {col. Chgarlie} Bechwith, when I was leaving Plei Me, noticed I had no weapn and ordered a SGM to fetch me an M16 and a sack full of magazines. I told him that in spite of what he had head me doing for the last 3-4 days and nights -- manning a 1919A6 machine gun -- I was still, technically speaking, a non-combatant. 'ain't no such thing in these mountains, boy. Take the rifle!' Joe Galloway packed a Swedish K in Vietnam while working as a reporter. Actually no he didn't, well not all the time anyway. He did however carry a snub nosed .38 If you have the movie we were soldiers they mention it in the special features section in the little making of the movie thing. |
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Quoted: 2 reporters captured "reporters"??? You mean [b]"MERCENARIES"!!![/b] "PAID PROPAGANDISTS"!!! "LIARS-FOR-HIRE"!!![/b] [b]Zaphod[/b] hit the nail on the head: [b]"Well, serves them right for having been there! I didn't ask them to go. They weren't representing ME. They knew the risks! Screw 'em!"[/b] BTW... if there ARE reporters captured - I don't think the US should do ONE DAMN THING to get them back. Nada. ZIP! ZERO! Let 'em negotiate their OWN release. Journalists are supposed to be "objective, unbiased and not take any sides". Hell, even Mike Wallace once said that if he had was covering a story and KNEW an ambush of American troops was going to take place he would NOT do ANYTHING to warn the American troops - he's [i]above[/i] petty nationalism - he's a fly on the wall just reporting events as they unfold. Well SCREW 'EM!!! [;D] |
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Quoted: Joe Galloway packed a Swedish K in Vietnam while working as a reporter. In [i]We Were Soldiers Once...and Young[/i] he only mentions getting the M16 from Col. Beckwith (and digging foxholes and carrying the rifle around and such). He also mentioned manning a ".30 caliber" machinegun at Plei Me, but not what kind, in the book. Suprised it was a 1919A6. |
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Quoted: Quoted: What happens to the reporters may be truly terrible, but what idiot carries a microphone instead of a weapon into a combat zone? Do reporters really naively think animals like this will respect them as reporters? Sad but very predictable. I will enjoy seeing the Marines rip the goat screwing Muslims a total arse stomping when they try to lay hold of them. Guy I went to college with was going to Iraq to do some kinda documentary or some shit. He asked if I might want to join the group going over. First question out of my mouth was, can I carry a gun with me. He said no we wouldn't be allowed to. I told him there was no fucking way in hell you'd catch me in that sandpit without one and turned down the offer. It would ahve actually paid twice what I make right now, but that still ain't enough to go to Iraq unarmed. In the end they ended up not going because of some fincacial shit. Any reporter that would go unarmed into that fucking place is crazy, or just hardcore. Either way if I can't have the means to protect myself in a war zone, fuck that. Especially a war zone where the enemy is unkown, and just being American is enough to get you killed regardless of being a reporter a solder or anything else. I hope they end up being ok, but thats about all I'll say about them. Any pistol or gun that you could smuggle in wouldn't be much use,except you could take ten or twelve with you! That might be worth something though! Bob [:D] |
| Come on guys, I know it sounds crazy to go into a war zone unarmed, but think of all the footage you would not have seen if it weren't for reporters right there. Especially in later years - I love to watch documentaries on WWII stuff, and there is a ton of video footage that is fascinating to watch. We would have none of that if it weren't for war reporters in the thick of things. |
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Quoted: Come on guys, I know it sounds crazy to go into a war zone unarmed, but think of all the footage you would not have seen if it weren't for reporters right there. Especially in later years - I love to watch documentaries on WWII stuff, and there is a ton of video footage that is fascinating to watch. We would have none of that if it weren't for war reporters in the thick of things. Bit of difference in times though Norman, WWII reporters were 100% on our side and helped with casualties and some even got behind a trigger when things went real bad. As has been reported many times now, your modern Newspeople try to sit on the fence and have admitted THEY WOULD NOT TIP OFF A US PATROL IF IT WAS WALKING INTO AN AMBUSH… (sorry for shouting). No, can't show much sysmpathy for the 'impartial' press. Andy |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What happens to the reporters may be truly terrible, but what idiot carries a microphone instead of a weapon into a combat zone? Do reporters really naively think animals like this will respect them as reporters? Sad but very predictable. I will enjoy seeing the Marines rip the goat screwing Muslims a total arse stomping when they try to lay hold of them. Guy I went to college with was going to Iraq to do some kinda documentary or some shit. He asked if I might want to join the group going over. First question out of my mouth was, can I carry a gun with me. He said no we wouldn't be allowed to. I told him there was no fucking way in hell you'd catch me in that sandpit without one and turned down the offer. It would ahve actually paid twice what I make right now, but that still ain't enough to go to Iraq unarmed. In the end they ended up not going because of some fincacial shit. Any reporter that would go unarmed into that fucking place is crazy, or just hardcore. Either way if I can't have the means to protect myself in a war zone, fuck that. Especially a war zone where the enemy is unkown, and just being American is enough to get you killed regardless of being a reporter a solder or anything else. I hope they end up being ok, but thats about all I'll say about them. Any pistol or gun that you could smuggle in wouldn't be much use,except you could take ten or twelve with you! That might be worth something though! Bob [:D] If the trip would have popped off and I they would have let us pack, I would have brought more than a pistol thats for sure. |