Posted: 5/10/2010 12:07:36 PM EDT
Has anyone ever used Amsoil in their cars or trucks? what do you think of it , do you go 25,000 before oil changes?
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It's quality stuff, I really like their filters. I have no way to determine if the oil is any better than any other quality synthetic but it wouldn't surprise me if it was.
With Amsoil filters and Mobil1 my oil looks brand new after 10K, exact same color as when I poured it in, it's hard for me to go longer than that since I don't put a lot of miles on but if I were putting a lot of miles on a car so I'd hit that extended interval they recommend within a year or so I'd probably do it. You're playing the odds whatever you do, I think you're probably way better off changing Amsoil every 25K than trusting a Jiffy-lube to change it every 3K, their screwup rate is so high. I think I've read that the average driver who replaces cars before 200K or so is more likely to have an engine fail from grease monkey error changing oil than from engine wear. |
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Snake oil with really good marketing to convince guys that they have to use it and that it's the best stuff out there.
Someone's going to come along and state that they're a dealer for it and offer to sell it to us. This stuff used to be all over the diesel truck boards several years ago when I was visiting them. |
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Quoted: Snake oil with really good marketing to convince guys that they have to use it and that it's the best stuff out there. Someone's going to come along and state that they're a dealer for it and offer to sell it to us. This stuff used to be all over the diesel truck boards several years ago when I was visiting them. It is big over on lawnsite.com too. |
| I had a g/f in HS whos dad swore by it. Amsoil is not snake oil, it was developed by an Aiforce pilot who took used synthetic oil from planes and used it in his cars b/c the cold temp would freeze conventional oil. I have no idea how good or bad it is, but I have been approached by many people asking me if I'd be interested in using/selling it. The sales pitches often come off as a pyramid scheme and its like Mary Kay for men...but thats just my take. |
| There are sveral independent studies available online that illustrate Amsoils ability to maintain it's viscosity better than many popular synthetics. In a "standard" engine it's not much of an improvement....But, in a motorcycle/ATV which uses the same oil to lube the engine and transmisson Amsoil is a better product due to it's superior "shear resistance". Meaning the oil doesn't get broken down as easily by tranmission gears mesh. I use it in my YZ450 but still change it every 3-4 hours. |
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Amsoil makes a good product, and I have used it in my vehicles since Amsoil was a young company. Their newer (blue) Ea air filters are excellent, as are their oil filters.
The MLM-style sales/marketing has always bothered me. Years ago I was a dealer for a short while so I could get the dealer price for myself; never sold it to others. Now I pay the Preferred Customer fee, which saves me $$ over paying their full retail price. Why do I use a synthetic oil and pay more? Not because its better under normal conditions. I use it because its better when things are not so normal. Originally I used it because it is much better in the cold (Minnesota), and I use it now because it handles heat much better (Texas). |
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I had a g/f in HS whos dad swore by it. Amsoil is not snake oil, it was developed by an Aiforce pilot who took used synthetic oil from planes and used it in his cars b/c the cold temp would freeze conventional oil. I have no idea how good or bad it is, but I have been approached by many people asking me if I'd be interested in using/selling it. The sales pitches often come off as a pyramid scheme and its like Mary Kay for men...but thats just my take. Being an Air Force pilot does not make one an expert in Tribology. He's probably smart enough to pull of a con though. It's expensive snake oil. |
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from what i gathered, running extended oil changes requires regular oil testting. i just buy a 5qt jug of mobile 1 or valvoline synthetic from walmart and use a bosche oil filter from autozone/oreilys (figure id buy something for using their oil recycling tank since i dont have a deuce to run with my old oil) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I use it, buy it through the preferred customer program to get dealer pricing. Never originally trusted it when driving my dad's car with it, till i finally decided I'd let it get to 20,000, then send the oil for analysis. Everything was just fine. I have it in both my cars now, and go right to 25,000, and am convinced it could go even further if I wanted to. Compared to any other synthetic? No idea if it's better or not. Compared to dino-juice? Way better. As I tell people about it, petroleum-based motor oil is taking a product and changing its properties to kinda do what you want. Synthetic is engineered from the ground up to do nothing BUT that. I've noticed that my truck comes off of high idle quicker in the winter than before I changed over to it, and I have seen a slight increase in mileage (never worked out the percentage). I like it and will keep using it. |
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from what i gathered, running extended oil changes requires regular oil testting. i just buy a 5qt jug of mobile 1 or valvoline synthetic from walmart and use a bosche oil filter from autozone/oreilys (figure id buy something for using their oil recycling tank since i dont have a deuce to run with my old oil) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile my deuce was converted to diesel only 
ETA: oil is high enough that they actually get paid for all that used oil. |
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Mostly snake oil, lets be 100% honest, their main product is multi level marketing, look at any of their information, they are constantly pushing for people to be dealers, and the dealers push people to be dealers, so their primary product is multi level marketing. I saw the old thing about many independent studies showing they are superior, that's not really true, there are multiple studies, bought and paid for by Amsoil. The internet is filled with advertising by various companies peddling motor oil, they all have studies showing that their oil is the best one! That proves one thing beyond any doubt, the company that pays for the study always wins! Amsoil uses extremely deceptive advertising, if you look at their webpages or advertising you would be sure that their entire product line is API certified for quality, this is required for most vehicles to keep their warranty in place, but the truth is that the vast majority of their product line is NOT API certified! It sure looks like it, but if you look carefully at their advertising it never really says their products are API certified, they play word games with people, they say their products are approved for use...approved by who? By them of course! They will tell you their products "meet or exceed" API requirements, now most people think that's good...but is it? Word games really, meets or exceeds is a meaningless term, it meets the requirements or it doesn't, if it exceeds the requirements it doesn't meet them, remember those API specs are both minimums and maximums, since some of the ingredients in oil are very harmful if they exceed the maximum allowed. That's why I say they use deceptive advertising. The dealers will tell you that under the Magnuson-Moss warranty act the maker of your car can't tell you what oil to use, and that is true to some extent, they can't tell you what brand of oil you have to use, but they can tell you that it has to be an API certified oil, since that is an almost universal standard, so they can require you to use an API certified oil. Amsoil will tell you that its expensive to get oils certified, and they can spend their money on making a better oil. Take a look at the API list: http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayInfo.asp?Info=BrandNames You will find brand names of little tiny companies that don't even remotely have the assets of Amsoil, yet they spend the money because they know how important it is to get that oil certified. Look on the list for Amsoil's name, you will find their only oil product actually certified is XL, their cheap line that they really don't want to sell you since they don't make as much money on it! http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseInfo2.asp?LicenseNo=0995 There's a reason why its commonly called Scamsoil, and it isn't good! |
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Mostly snake oil, lets be 100% honest, their main product is multi level marketing, look at any of their information, they are constantly pushing for people to be dealers, and the dealers push people to be dealers, so their primary product is multi level marketing. I saw the old thing about many independent studies showing they are superior, that's not really true, there are multiple studies, bought and paid for by Amsoil. The internet is filled with advertising by various companies peddling motor oil, they all have studies showing that their oil is the best one! That proves one thing beyond any doubt, the company that pays for the study always wins! Amsoil uses extremely deceptive advertising, if you look at their webpages or advertising you would be sure that their entire product line is API certified for quality, this is required for most vehicles to keep their warranty in place, but the truth is that the vast majority of their product line is NOT API certified! It sure looks like it, but if you look carefully at their advertising it never really says their products are API certified, they play word games with people, they say their products are approved for use...approved by who? By them of course! They will tell you their products "meet or exceed" API requirements, now most people think that's good...but is it? Word games really, meets or exceeds is a meaningless term, it meets the requirements or it doesn't, if it exceeds the requirements it doesn't meet them, remember those API specs are both minimums and maximums, since some of the ingredients in oil are very harmful if they exceed the maximum allowed. That's why I say they use deceptive advertising. The dealers will tell you that under the Magnuson-Moss warranty act the maker of your car can't tell you what oil to use, and that is true to some extent, they can't tell you what brand of oil you have to use, but they can tell you that it has to be an API certified oil, since that is an almost universal standard, so they can require you to use an API certified oil. Amsoil will tell you that its expensive to get oils certified, and they can spend their money on making a better oil. Take a look at the API list: http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayInfo.asp?Info=BrandNames You will find brand names of little tiny companies that don't even remotely have the assets of Amsoil, yet they spend the money because they know how important it is to get that oil certified. Look on the list for Amsoil's name, you will find their only oil product actually certified is XL, their cheap line that they really don't want to sell you since they don't make as much money on it! http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseInfo2.asp?LicenseNo=0995 There's a reason why its commonly called Scamsoil, and it isn't good! Their outboard 2 cycle oil isn't TCW-3 certified either. good write up 
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I think AMSOIL and Mobil1 are both PAO based synthetic lubricants.
Many poly-alpha-olefins have flexible alkyl branching groups on every other carbon of their polymer backbone chain. These alkyl groups, which can shape themselves in numerous conformations, make it very difficult for the polymer molecules to line themselves up side-by-side in an orderly way. Therefore, many poly-alpha-olefins do not crystallize or solidify easily and are able to remain oily, viscous liquids even at lower temperatures. Low molecular weight poly-alpha-olefins are useful as synthetic lubricants such as synthetic motor oils for vehicles used in a wide temperature range.
Living in Minnesota where it can get to -40 degrees in winter I can say that AMSOIL and Mobil1 have both performed great for me. I wouldn't hesitate to run either one of them for a full year. If you don't like a company's marketing structure then don't buy their product. |
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I used to sell it and I used it in my race motors. Definitely made a difference in how the parts looked over the conventional race oil. The Amsoil gear oil is awesome. All in all, a quality product, regardless how you feel about their marketing.
BTW, Everything I have seen about Mobil 1 says the it's not as good since Exxon took over Mobil. |
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Has anyone ever used Amsoil in their cars or trucks? what do you think of it , do you go 25,000 before oil changes? I have 38k miles give or take on my current oil in my cummins. But I have a bypass filter, do oil analysis on a regular basis and have a sump capacity of 3gallons. I use the Amsoil Heavy Duty Diesel and Marine 15w40. J- |