Posted: 7/10/2006 7:45:36 AM EDT
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Wife and I went for a walk a few weeks ago. Since she jogs every morning, I though I should evaluate her route, and look for safety issues. You can only go in three directions from our house. Our neighbor across the intersection from us to the East has two German Shepherds. They are nice enough dogs. Seem friendly. He is nice, so I am not afraid of his dogs. Two houses down to the west is a Rottweiler that is always chained to the wood patio. It can reach around the corner of the house, and bark at you. Not a huge threat as it is chained, but I have seen it pull the patio away from the house. I fully expect to see him running down the street with half of the patio behind him. Two more houses down from them is another Rottweiler. My 70 year old neighbor lady across the street was walking her little anklebiter, when this Rottweiler broke it's chain and attacked. It bit her dog, then her. Luckily, it was just simple bites. If you can call them simple. The only other direction to walk is south. A block south of us is a family that owns 3 pure bred american pit bull terriers, and one half-breed APBT and something else. We walked past all of these houses so I could gauge the agressiveness of all the dogs. The pure-bred pit bulls were on their hind legs barking over the top of the chain link fence at us. The half-breed was sitting. Obviously a difference in agression level. The owner was working on his car, and I said hi to the wife. (she was the one that told me they were pure breds) My wife worked out a route that only takes her past the German Shepherds twice. And she can avoid the other dogs all together. Since then, I have been paying attention to the lady with the pit bulls. She walks them every day, and she carries a 4 foot long cattle prod. Seriously. She tries to hide the prod behind her back if she sees anyone. I doubt many people know what it is. But I grew up on a farm. I'd try to take a photo of her, as I think it is kind of funny. But I don't know how well it would be received here. I've started making my wife jog with a fanny pack, as gay as they are. She carries a cell phone and a 2oz can of FoxLabs pepper spray. I wish Iowa would adopt a state-wide shall-issue CCW policy so I could equip her better. |
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It's sad now that so many people own dogs that it's no longer safe to even walk to in your own neighborhood and sometimes not even in your own yard. People are so inconsiderate and stupid now that they not only own dogs, they often own multiple dogs. Their owners are such idiots that they see nothing wrong with having something dangerous to children that they can not control. I wouldn't depend on the pepper spray. I've been attacked more than a dozen times by dogs at my mailbox. Unfortunately since my mailbox is on the other side of a public street I can't legally carry. One time I poured a bunch of dried cayenne pepper at the base of my mailbox in an attempt to encourage the dog that likes to sleep under it to move elsewhere. The next day I saw him licking at the pepper. It didn't negatively affect him at all.z |
REALLY? I thought I read on here that pepper spray would deter dogs better than|
The problem with the agressive dogs lies in your story.. You use a fucking cattle prod on a Bichon and it will be mean.. Someone should shove the prod up the woman's woman part, and leave it on. I work in the grooming dept of a local pet store, and my all time favorite dog that comes in is a purebread Pit. It's how they are raised, not what they are.. Coincedently, I have been bit by way more Toy Poodles and Shi-Zus than any big "mean breed" dog.. |
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First, let's get one thing straight: Mailmen DO NOT USE MACE. It is diluted pepper spray and it is harmless. It does not cause blindness or any other type of injury. It was developed with the assistance of veteranarians who would never have approved its use if it did cause any kind of damage. There is a possibility of damage with the use of mace, which is why the U.S. Postal Service does not use it. The pepper spray used is under the brand name of either "Halt" or "Back Off". It causes a stinging sensation in the eyes and nose for a maximum of ten minutes. This is to give the mailman enough time to get away from the dog and to safety. The stinging eventually wears off on its own, though most dogs just wipe it away by rubbing their face in the grass. Speaking as one who has had to use this product a few times in my long career as a Postal Carrier, I will also report that it does not work with all breeds. (I'm not going to reveal which ones.) In a perfect world, Mailmen would not need to use these products, and dog owners wouldn't become so angered when they do. Sadly, we do not live in a world where all dog owners are responsible with their dogs, and it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the barrel. Even though an owner knows how to "read" his dog, a Mailman cannot always tell if a charging dog is on the attack, or will stop short. If he can, he will hold his satchel out to the dog in hopes the animal will bite it instead. If not, the Mailman has no other means to protect himself but use the spray. I can also report that the old joke of the "dog biting the Mailman" is not as funny as it would seem. I have seen some horrific injuries done to my colleagues. Those who purchase specifiic breeds of dog because of their reputation for "stopping power" can certainly appreciate this. Finally, be forewarned that if your dog bites your Postman, you will face legal action. Dog bites fall under the category of "on the job injury". That means the Post Office has to report it to Workman's Compensation. With so many bites occurring, the only way the Postal Service can keep its W.C. premiums in check is to counter with lawsuits or out of court settlements. IMO..The spray itself scares the dog, not that the spray actually works on the dog. |
Oh yeah but the little ones won't rip your calf off though will it. I don't feel pits should be banned "to each his own" but I do feel anyone should have immunity from prosecution for killing one if they fell it necessary for there own safety. |
A little peroxide, a Scooby Doo band-aid a kiss from mom and you would be all better again. That does not work with Pits. I really wish people would quit comparing pit bites to toy poodle bites. It's like comparing airsoft pellets to .50 bmg. Apples vs Oranges. |
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I'm not comparing Pit bite to Poodle bite. DICKHEAD!!! What I am saying, is just because a dog is of a certain breed, does not automatically make it mean.. I wish people would stop spouting shit, if we wanted it from you, we would scrape it from your underwear.. |
Your correct in that halt,shock ect sucks. Its a whopping 1/3 of 1% active ingredients.Im not a mail carrier, but they give us the same stuff. The OC i carry is 2% and 5.3 million shu. That shit works. |
I said that my wife is carrying Fox Labs pepper spray, right. I'm sure that is what you are talking about. 5.3 million shu. |
Nobody said it did. But you still compared "mean" dog bites to small dog bites. Whether or not it is verocity or frequency there still is no comparing the two. |
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Quoted: I'm not comparing Pit bite to Poodle bite. DICKHEAD!!! What I am saying, is just because a dog is of a certain breed, does not automatically make it mean.. I wish people would stop spouting shit, if we wanted it from you, we would scrape it from your underwear.. Wow mighty defensive there are we. I just love the personal attack I'm sure you have a lovely life. 
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Jesus fuckin christ, let it go already. There is already another thread about this, no one wants to hear about your personal experience with pit-bulls, be it negative or positive. No one person on here is going to make another person see his way because of some weak ass "knew some guy that had a pit bull mix that killed a poodle" story. And just because I can 
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Piss-poor breeding makes a bad dog. Piss-poor ownership makes a dog bad. The owners of those dogs are stupid; a cattle prod will only make them meaner. Hell, a cattle prod would piss off anything, if not mortally wound it. Those dogs might possibly be the result of bad breeding; they're certainly being warped by their owners. Do yourself & everyone in the neighborhoopd a favor: get some photos of the idiot carrying the cattle prod & drop a dime on them to the local animal control officer. This is bullshiit & it shouldn't be going on. Those dogs probably wouldn't pass a canine personality test. |
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dont care what anyone says. pitbull has the POTENTIAL to kill you and your friends. toy poodle .. dont think so.. dont care how nice some are or can be. how is anyone to know that one is nice and one is not.. personally i equate pitbulls with tigers. some folks keep pet tigers. and they are quite tame (I guess). but they are a wild animal and will bite your head off (zigfreed and roy style) if the notion comes upon them. so i don't want people in my neighborhoold keeping tigers and i dont want em keeping pits... end of story... |
