[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Another useless TSA rant... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/1/2010 3:08:43 AM EDT
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Went through airport security with my NiteCore Infinity Defender EDC light (like I had dozens of times before.) My traveling companion had a large, expensive scissors in her bag (duh!) so I had to take the scissors back out to my car. The second time through security this fat blueshirt chick pulls my flashlight out and asks me why I'm carrying a weapon on a plane. I reply, "It's not a weapon, it's a flashlight, and besides, I've carried this flashlight through security dozens of times, including this same checkpoint about 15 minutes ago, and never had anyone consider it a weapon." She tells me to wait and gets her supervisor, who presses the (very small) crenellations into his palm and tells me that the light could cut someone if pressed hard enough. I pull out my keys, hold them in a stabbing grip, and tell ask him if he's going to confiscate everyone's keys, because I can do a hell of a lot more damage with this key than I ever could with a frickin' AA flashlight. He doesn't like this - not one bit. Starts yelling, "I'm asking the questions here! Do you want to me to take you into the back for more questioning? What is your problem!!?!? Fuckhead. Asshole motherfucking blueshirted dumb fucking fuckhead probably would have had a stroke if I'd brought my E2D instead. Thankfully, I had plenty of time before my flight. I damn sure wasn't going to let fuckhead confiscate my light, so it was back out to the car again. I had a mini-maglite in there, which was 'acceptable' to the blueshirt fucktard. Fuck. Fucking fuck. |
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if a revolution ever starts, there is one, and only one group of people I will be actively seeking: TSA folks. I am going to capture as many as I can, take them to some random location, and make them go through endless security screenings while I hassle them endlessly about stupid shit. They will have to take off their shoes, belts, empty their bags, then put it all back together again until they drop.
when I am done I am going to spray paint them orange, or soak them in iodine so I know they've been properly cleared, find another one and do it again. you guys can have the rest of the aholes and idiots that run out govt. TSA is mine. outside of Obama and Pelosi, that is the biggest bunch of assholes you've ever met in your life. |
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My last flight was just after the shoe-bomber ordeal. After being forced to remove my shoes 8 or 10 times (it was an overseas trip), I resolved never to fly again. One resolution I have kept. Same here. I hope the next administration shuts down the tsa and all thoes mouth breathers starve. |
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I went through security a month or so ago with my parachute rigger's kit in my carry-on luggage. Seeing my Leatherman in the x-ray, they open my bag and tell me I can't take it because it has a blade on it. I pointed out that my scissors have a longer blade (two if you count them both), and that my 6-inch tacking needle and temporary pins could scramble someone's brains...yet they are OK to have. The TSA moron just shook his head and said, "I don't make the rules." Idiots. |
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I was headed West to go skiing last month and didn't have a ski bag so I just taped my skis together (no bindings) and headed to the airport, hoping they still had those poly bags at the check-in they used to give out for free. They didn't, so I ended up sending my skis through just taped together.
Freakin' TSA cut my skis apart and then taped them back together, leaving one of those "we checked your bag cards" stuck between the two skis! Like I was smuggling something paper thin sandwiched between them. 
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Quoted: "What is your problem?" I would have taken the opportunity and gave them an earful. +1 I dont give a fuck if it lands me on a no fly list, I'll make such a huge outburst that hopefully everybody in the terminal will hear me go on about how TSA is a fucking joke and a huge waste of taxpayer dollars. |
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"What is your problem?" I would have taken the opportunity and gave them an earful. +1 I dont give a fuck if it lands me on a no fly list, I'll make such a huge outburst that hopefully everybody in the terminal will hear me go on about how TSA is a fucking joke and a huge waste of taxpayer dollars. If given sh!t about it... you cant be. An Authority figure asked you a question and you answered him. It was a very open ended question that can only be filled with ones own self delusional observations. The Authority Figure should learn to ask the right questions. I dont think asking someone to give their opinion of what the problem is, is that safe. The authority figure never told you to specify this problem or that problem. I dont think the authority figure was that smart. Doesnt sound like it. Anytime I hear someone is a TSA agent I naturlally think they were not smart enough to become a janitor or manage McDonalds. |
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Quoted: I'm not on the TSA's side here but you pulled your keys out and held them in a stabbing position?  Not sure if this furthered your case, bud.Agreed. I was trying to make a point which, in retrospect, was not such a good idea at the time. But I was PISSED! I guess you just can't fix stupid. Quoted: Next time try to take fire onto the plane  That was no problem. I had my TSA approved cigar cutter (easily disassembled into blades) and my lighter. I had to leave my torch lighter at the house, but my Bic went through with no problem. Hence, my disconnect with the entire stupid fucking process... Quoted: Quoted: I smell small amount of BS....but hey, it's a cool story. me too, he had a lot of time to go back to his car twice! must be a small airport Very small airport (Punta Gorda.) Took me all of 5 minutes to walk to my truck. Pure 100% truth to this story (not especially cool though...) |
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Quoted: I'm not on the TSA's side here but you pulled your keys out and held them in a stabbing position? Not sure if this furthered your case, bud.No, he furthered his case. The TSA and their supporters are too stupid to understand that you can never prevent someone from doing others harm. You can however prevent someone from wanting or desiring to hurt other people. |
| Ok so my buddy goes thru security, they find his leatherman.....his fault he ships it home........he gets to our HOG hunt in TX and find a blacpowder speedloader in his pack complete with 100 grns powder and bullet.......wonder how that got by........he realizes how lucky he is and we beat him up over it any chance we can |
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Quoted: Quoted: I would have accepted the invitation for additional questioning. This. Was he threatening you with more questioning? Geez is this Nazi Germany? Yes - he got REAL hostile when I held the keys up. He actually said "I'm asking the questios here! If you don't want to take the flashlight back to your car we can move to another room for more questioning." I was dumbfounded and decided to put on my sheep mask. It wasn't worth the additional headache. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Next time try to take fire onto the plane You can take a "normal" lighter on the plane, just not the torch type. They tried to take my ST DuPont Ligne 2 lighter (gold /blue Chinese lacquer) one time because they thought the flame went too high. I had to make a scene and get the supervisors supervisor and they finally allowed me to board with it. I was not about to leave it at JFK, especially since TSA had let me on the plane with it 7 days before at LAX. They have too much discretion. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I would have accepted the invitation for additional questioning. This. what airport was this at? Ask him under what authority he was going to question you or detain you under. What for laughs and profit to ensue. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Winner! They cannot involuntarily detain you in any way, shape or form. They can only hold you for secondary screening, and even then you can walk away at any time (to the nonsterile area, of course). You just won't be allowed past the checkpoint. All they can do if you don't give up the 'offending' item is refuse to let you through the checkpoint. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I would have accepted the invitation for additional questioning. This. what airport was this at? Ask him under what authority he was going to question you or detain you under. What for laughs and profit to ensue. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Winner! They cannot involuntarily detain you in any way, shape or form. They can only hold you for secondary screening, and even then you can walk away at any time (to the nonsterile area, of course). You just won't be allowed past the checkpoint. All they can do if you don't give up the 'offending' item is refuse to let you through the checkpoint. A couple of months ago I accidently left a loaded mag in my backpack. Are you saying that I could have refused to accompany the TSA employee into his office? Because the police officer they called over did not give me that impression. They told me that a loaded mag was considered a 'weapon,' as though it were a handgun, and required an additional interview. The TSA fat chick in this case initially asked me why I was trying to carry a weapon on the plane, so I assumed they felt they had the authority to conduct an additional interview in this case as well. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I would have accepted the invitation for additional questioning. This. what airport was this at? Ask him under what authority he was going to question you or detain you under. What for laughs and profit to ensue. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Winner! They cannot involuntarily detain you in any way, shape or form. They can only hold you for secondary screening, and even then you can walk away at any time (to the nonsterile area, of course). You just won't be allowed past the checkpoint. All they can do if you don't give up the 'offending' item is refuse to let you through the checkpoint. A couple of months ago I accidently left a loaded mag in my backpack. Are you saying that I could have refused to accompany the TSA employee into his office? Because the police officer they called over did not give me that impression. They told me that a loaded mag was considered a 'weapon,' as though it were a handgun, and required an additional interview. The TSA fat chick in this case initially asked me why I was trying to carry a weapon on the plane, so I assumed they felt they had the authority to conduct an additional interview in this case as well. They (TSA) have no power or authority to detain you, they can only refuse you entry to the sterile area with prohibited items. The local LEO, however, can and will depending on the local laws as they pertain to handguns and ammo. For example, in NYC it is illegal to possess handgun ammo without a permit. As such, he can detain, arrest or cite you. Should you decide to walk away from the checkpoint prior to LEO arrival, they cannot prevent you from doing so. They will, however, notify local LEOs. |
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I would have accepted the invitation for additional questioning. This. what airport was this at? Ask him under what authority he was going to question you or detain you under. What for laughs and profit to ensue. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Winner! They cannot involuntarily detain you in any way, shape or form. They can only hold you for secondary screening, and even then you can walk away at any time (to the nonsterile area, of course). You just won't be allowed past the checkpoint. All they can do if you don't give up the 'offending' item is refuse to let you through the checkpoint. A couple of months ago I accidently left a loaded mag in my backpack. Are you saying that I could have refused to accompany the TSA employee into his office? Because the police officer they called over did not give me that impression. They told me that a loaded mag was considered a 'weapon,' as though it were a handgun, and required an additional interview. The TSA fat chick in this case initially asked me why I was trying to carry a weapon on the plane, so I assumed they felt they had the authority to conduct an additional interview in this case as well. Therein lies the problem. They feel and give the impression that they have much more authority than they actually have. If unchecked, then in practice, they possess the authority they are assuming by remaining unchallenged. If they go unchallenged long enough, the TSA (and all other enforcement agencies really) will seek to have this authority written into law once it is challenged and they learn they do not actually have the authority they have been assuming for so long. *Edited for spelling. |
