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Posted: 2/12/2012 8:55:01 AM EDT
As found on mp.net, the pics are amazing and IMHO share-worthy.




The bodies of 21
German soldiers entombed in a perfectly preserved World War One shelter
have been discovered 94 years after they were killed.
The
men were part of a larger group of 34 who were buried alive when a huge
Allied shell exploded above the tunnel in 1918, causing it to cave in.
Thirteen
bodies were recovered from the underground shelter, but the remaining
men had to be left under a mountain of mud as it was too dangerous to
retrieve them.
Nearly
a century later, French archaeologists stumbled upon the mass grave on
the former Western Front in eastern France during excavation work for a
road building project.




full story and pics:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099187/Bodies-21-German-soldiers-buried-alive-WW1-trench-perfectly-preserved-94-years-later.html

















I'm an archaeologist working on roman and celtic digs and a "specialist" of metal objects of the same era but I have always been more interested by WW1 and WW2.

Unfortunately there is practically no contemporary archeology in France, dig like this are really really rare.






 
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 8:56:11 AM EDT
[#1]
That G98 has seen better days............
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 8:57:36 AM EDT
[#2]
OST.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 8:57:43 AM EDT
[#3]
Neat.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:01:40 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
As found on mp.net, the pics are amazing and IMHO share-worthy.

The bodies of 21 German soldiers entombed in a perfectly preserved World War One shelter have been discovered 94 years after they were killed.The men were part of a larger group of 34 who were buried alive when a huge Allied shell exploded above the tunnel in 1918, causing it to cave in.Thirteen bodies were recovered from the underground shelter, but the remaining men had to be left under a mountain of mud as it was too dangerous to retrieve them.Nearly a century later, French archaeologists stumbled upon the mass grave on the former Western Front in eastern France during excavation work for a road building project.


full story and pics:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099187/Bodies-21-German-soldiers-buried-alive-WW1-trench-perfectly-preserved-94-years-later.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/10/article-2099187-11AA2C9D000005DC-581_470x632.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/10/article-2099187-11AA39FA000005DC-444_964x679.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/10/article-2099187-11AA361A000005DC-974_470x632.jpg


I'm an archaeologist working on roman and celtic digs and a "specialist" of metal objects of the same era but I have always been more interested by WW1 and WW2.
Unfortunately there is practically no contemporary archeology in France, dig like this are really really rare.


 


Fantastic pic, should be stabilized, sectioned out and preserved.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:03:01 AM EDT
[#5]
Cool stuff, back in 03 these trenches were all over the place in Belgium and we were able to walk through them.

Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:03:58 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
As found on mp.net, the pics are amazing and IMHO share-worthy.

The bodies of 21 German soldiers entombed in a perfectly preserved World War One shelter have been discovered 94 years after they were killed.The men were part of a larger group of 34 who were buried alive when a huge Allied shell exploded above the tunnel in 1918, causing it to cave in.Thirteen bodies were recovered from the underground shelter, but the remaining men had to be left under a mountain of mud as it was too dangerous to retrieve them.Nearly a century later, French archaeologists stumbled upon the mass grave on the former Western Front in eastern France during excavation work for a road building project.


full story and pics:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099187/Bodies-21-German-soldiers-buried-alive-WW1-trench-perfectly-preserved-94-years-later.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/10/article-2099187-11AA2C9D000005DC-581_470x632.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/10/article-2099187-11AA39FA000005DC-444_964x679.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/10/article-2099187-11AA361A000005DC-974_470x632.jpg


I'm an archaeologist working on roman and celtic digs and a "specialist" of metal objects of the same era but I have always been more interested by WW1 and WW2.
Unfortunately there is practically no contemporary archeology in France, dig like this are really really rare.


 


Fantastic pic, should be stabilized, sectioned out and preserved.


Absolutely.  Amazing find.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:05:01 AM EDT
[#7]
Perfect preservation seems, well, imperfect.

Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:07:08 AM EDT
[#8]
Amazing what can be found buried in the earth if one knows where to look.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:08:11 AM EDT
[#9]
Cool, but "perfectly preserved" it ain't.      I've seen Roman ruins in better shape.  
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:11:45 AM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:


That G98 has seen better days............


Looks better than the last batch of Turked 98s that came into the states.



 
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:14:52 AM EDT
[#11]
Rough way to go.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:17:22 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Cool, but "perfectly preserved" it ain't.      I've seen Roman ruins in better shape.  


Pretty good shape for being pulverized by artillery and being buried under ground for close to a century.  Some of the photos in that article are quite eye opening, trench life was brutal.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:18:22 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Cool, but "perfectly preserved" it ain't.      I've seen Roman ruins in better shape.  



Wood and steel in a wet environment VS stone/clay in a dry one, who wins?
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:18:28 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Rough way to go.


+1

At least it was only a minute or two of asphyxiation.   I can't imagine all that dirt pressing in on your chest though, as you try to breath it.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:18:49 AM EDT
[#15]
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:19:43 AM EDT
[#16]
Wow, intresting find.

RIP.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:23:05 AM EDT
[#17]
That would be really cool to see in person!
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:23:46 AM EDT
[#18]



Quoted:


Cool, but "perfectly preserved" it ain't.      I've seen Roman ruins in better shape.  


Well I agree but it's quite rare to see leather and wood that much well preserved. I have been on more than 20 digs and I have only found 2 wooden objects. Both times it was in the bottom of a well still in working order.







 
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:26:07 AM EDT
[#19]
Article says this hasn't been identified, but it clearly looks like a bag of coins.




Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:27:27 AM EDT
[#20]
very cool thanks foe posting. I love stuff like this.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:27:58 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Rough way to go.


+1

At least it was only a minute or two of asphyxiation.   I can't imagine all that dirt pressing in on your chest though, as you try to breath it.


Concussion effects of the blast likely killed them outright, concussion will literally jelly your insides.
Stil al rough way out but not near as time consuming
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:30:02 AM EDT
[#22]
I hope they bury those boys with full military honors.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:30:15 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Cool, but "perfectly preserved" it ain't.      I've seen Roman ruins in better shape.  

Well I agree but it's quite rare to see leather and wood that much well preserved. I have been on more than 20 digs and I have only found 2 wooden objects. Both times it was in the bottom of a well still in working order.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/10/article-2099187-11AA34C6000005DC-856_470x633.jpg
 




"Perfect" has different meanings among the various branches I'm sure.

They have preserved cotton webbing, wood structure, tools, newspaper, etc...

That's pretty fucking perfect.

You should see what a forensic anthropologist calls "perfect".

Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:31:20 AM EDT
[#24]
Looks nothing like Sucker Punch
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:32:00 AM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Rough way to go.




+1



At least it was only a minute or two of asphyxiation.   I can't imagine all that dirt pressing in on your chest though, as you try to breath it.
+1

It's one of the most frequent cause of mortality for archaeologist (with old-age, alcohol and being hit by a 20t excavator). Even if you are unearthed still breathing, you will die or lost a few limbs if you are not put in a decompression chamber very fast.





 
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:32:01 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
I hope they bury those boys with full military honors.


They will.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:33:13 AM EDT
[#27]
Cool.

My grandfather was a WWI vet. The archaeologists better watch out for UXO and chemical weapons. Lucite and mustard gas were tossed around a lot back then, would hate to hit a round loaded with that stuff.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:34:39 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Cool.

My grandfather was a WWI vet. The archaeologists better watch out for UXO and chemical weapons. Lucite and mustard gas were tossed around a lot back then, would hate to hit a round loaded with that stuff.


Yup...1 in 4 rounds did not explode on the Western Front.  I read somewhere that 19 are killed due to UXO in Western Europe.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:47:50 AM EDT
[#29]
What did the article mean by "aerial mines"  Large artillery shells with delayed detonators?
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:48:37 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
What did the article mean by "aerial mines"  Large artillery shells with delayed detonators?


Kind of like fast can arty rounds....mines fired by arty.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:49:47 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Wow, intresting find.

RIP.




Link Posted: 2/12/2012 9:52:46 AM EDT
[#32]
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 10:00:48 AM EDT
[#33]
Thanks for posting! Good article.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 10:03:40 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Rough way to go.


+1

At least it was only a minute or two of asphyxiation.   I can't imagine all that dirt pressing in on your chest though, as you try to breath it.
+1
It's one of the most frequent cause of mortality for archaeologist (with old-age, alcohol and being hit by a 20t excavator). Even if you are unearthed still breathing, you will die or lost a few limbs if you are not put in a decompression chamber very fast.

 


Do the Indiana Jones movies ever make it to France?  Do carry a whip and wear a cool hat?  

What's the coolest thing you've ever found on a dig?
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 10:18:35 AM EDT
[#35]
Could you imagine getting a phone call saying "We found your great-great grandfather, what would you like to do with his remains?" Sadly, there is no one left alive that remembers those men.

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Link Posted: 2/12/2012 10:26:24 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What did the article mean by "aerial mines"  Large artillery shells with delayed detonators?


Kind of like fast can arty rounds....mines fired by arty.


FASCAM
Family of Scatterable Mines.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 10:27:54 AM EDT
[#37]
Absolutely fantastic find. RIP and buried with honors.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 10:33:36 AM EDT
[#38]





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Rough way to go.






+1





At least it was only a minute or two of asphyxiation.   I can't imagine all that dirt pressing in on your chest though, as you try to breath it.
+1


It's one of the most frequent cause of mortality for archaeologist (with old-age, alcohol and being hit by a 20t excavator). Even if you are unearthed still breathing, you will die or lost a few limbs if you are not put in a decompression chamber very fast.





 






Do the Indiana Jones movies ever make it to France?  Do carry a whip and wear a cool hat?  





What's the coolest thing you've ever found on a dig?


Lol of course that poor Indy crossed the pond. He's responsible for many vocations but the sad reality of Archeology is pretty distant from the movies . Well at least I was not raped by Georges Lucas.


I was wearing a cool hat when I was a volunteer ( a nice colonial hat), but now I have to stick to a white plastic helmet like any civil engineering worker.





Coolest personnal finds:





Silver coins from 90 BC to the IIIrd century AD.


Complete amphoras.


Roman brooches:






Coolest studies: Roman and celtic weapons, bones objects.





Nothing amazing but I'm only 26.
 
 
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 10:34:24 AM EDT
[#39]
Cool.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 10:36:54 AM EDT
[#40]
I was happy to see that the dignity of those soldiers was preserved.
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 11:18:04 AM EDT
[#41]
very interesting

those pictures are amazing

Trench Warfare was no picnic

I am glad they where able to identify these Soldiers and bring them home. May they now R.I.P.


Link Posted: 2/12/2012 11:50:35 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
I'm an archaeologist working on roman and celtic digs and a "specialist" of metal objects of the same era but I have always been more interested by WW1 and WW2.
Unfortunately there is practically no contemporary archeology in France, dig like this are really really rare.


 


So tagged. I have a photo of a small metal object I ran across in Greece, near the byzantine city of Mystras. Wonder if you might have some insight even though it's not exactly your location/era. Have to get the pic scanned when I get home.

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