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Originally Posted By joemama74: The sad truth, all the skinny people here are gonna die too. Like sweating to the oldies was the answer. I call it controlling what I can control. Sure I can die today but I know it wasn’t poor life choices that caused it. I also love it when people in their 40’s tell me I looked like you when I was in my 30’s. My first comment is no you didn’t. Then they go on about their aches and pains. I say hmm I don’t have aches and pains. They say wait till you get to me my age. Then I tell them I’m actually in my 50’s and they are stunned with nothing left to say. Yes this actually happens. A new neighbor literally had this conversation after seeing me outside without a shirt on. |
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Originally Posted By joemama74: The sad truth, all the skinny people here are gonna die too. Like sweating to the oldies was the answer. |
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Originally Posted By RTX: You should have already changed your routine. You're clearly going to the wrong places. Originally Posted By RTX: Originally Posted By King_me: I can't remember the last time I saw a fit/slim women out in the wild, use to be common about 10-15 years ago. You should have already changed your routine. You're clearly going to the wrong places. Ya no doubt the average is up but even here in small town Iowa there are plenty of fit girls they are the ones jogging through my neighborhood. The fatties are driving by while eating at the same time lol. My 18 yr old daughter is super fit because she took up the same lifestyle as her mom and dad. |
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Originally Posted By Quintin: Extremes either way are really bad. The gals who are like a size 1 eating 540 calories a day looking like a concentration camp survivor thinking they're healthy, they're just as bad if not worse as the folks racking up points on the McDonald's app smashing double quarter pounders four or five times a week. Originally Posted By Quintin: Originally Posted By joemama74: The sad truth, all the skinny people here are gonna die too. Like sweating to the oldies was the answer. Possibly but there is 1 of those people for every 1000 morbidly obese people. |
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Originally Posted By GaryT1776: I wear a 30 or 32 waist (varies between the type of trouser and manufacturer). It is virtually impossible to find on the shelves. It is even difficult to find in the YOUTH section. The standard on the shelf sizes START at 36 and rise from there. If I shop clearance racks I have a better chance of finding something that will fit me. Regarding the OP’s stat: My wife is 5’-3” and currently weighs 116lbs. She “needs” (her words) to get back to 112-113. We’re an athletic couple tho. Yesterday she walked, completed Pilates, played tennis and rode her bike to church group. I rucked four miles with a 70# pack, lifted. and walked with her later. People tell us “you’re too skinny”. We are not. We look healthy. I also get comments about my GORUCK activities. The people saying this are always “skinny fat” to “obese”. I always reply “it’s 90% what you put in … not what you take out”. TLDR: fat people are lazy. When I was in high school (1980s) we had ONE fat person in my class. Maybe a couple of people that would likely turn out fat too. Movies from the era, like Goonies, depicted one “fat kid” as a source of ridicule. Using the movie example, “Chunk” looks SMALL by comparison to most of the blob kids I see today. I watch people of all ages (18 to around 70) eating absolute garbage in our work cafe, daily. Some of the women, likely 50+ overweight, complain about their inability to lose weight while shoveling greasy fried food and guzzling HFCS sodas. They simultaneously make comments about the fresh, organic, food I’m snacking on (e.g. carrots, broccoli, tuna, maybe some Greek yogurt with a few blueberries tossed in, etc). I do live in a town that was voted “most obese “ a few years ago. Originally Posted By GaryT1776: Originally Posted By SnoopisTDI: Did I see that right? The average man's waist is 40"!? Anyway... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60883/F4pJY-SXAAEh2KV-3144199.jpg I wear a 30 or 32 waist (varies between the type of trouser and manufacturer). It is virtually impossible to find on the shelves. It is even difficult to find in the YOUTH section. The standard on the shelf sizes START at 36 and rise from there. If I shop clearance racks I have a better chance of finding something that will fit me. Regarding the OP’s stat: My wife is 5’-3” and currently weighs 116lbs. She “needs” (her words) to get back to 112-113. We’re an athletic couple tho. Yesterday she walked, completed Pilates, played tennis and rode her bike to church group. I rucked four miles with a 70# pack, lifted. and walked with her later. People tell us “you’re too skinny”. We are not. We look healthy. I also get comments about my GORUCK activities. The people saying this are always “skinny fat” to “obese”. I always reply “it’s 90% what you put in … not what you take out”. TLDR: fat people are lazy. When I was in high school (1980s) we had ONE fat person in my class. Maybe a couple of people that would likely turn out fat too. Movies from the era, like Goonies, depicted one “fat kid” as a source of ridicule. Using the movie example, “Chunk” looks SMALL by comparison to most of the blob kids I see today. I watch people of all ages (18 to around 70) eating absolute garbage in our work cafe, daily. Some of the women, likely 50+ overweight, complain about their inability to lose weight while shoveling greasy fried food and guzzling HFCS sodas. They simultaneously make comments about the fresh, organic, food I’m snacking on (e.g. carrots, broccoli, tuna, maybe some Greek yogurt with a few blueberries tossed in, etc). I do live in a town that was voted “most obese “ a few years ago. Where the hell do you shop? I’ve never seen a size run of men’s pants that start at 36” waist. |
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When you see people at the grocery store, and their carts look like this.....is it even a question as to why people are getting so fat? 95% of the stuff some people buy is processed.....created in a factory, comes in a plastic bag, and is full of sugar, salt, and all kinds of other chemicals.  |
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Originally Posted By Naamah: That puts me between 118-177. None of that is healthy for me. Originally Posted By Naamah: Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad: I can’t really speak on women and height , but I have an old thread here in GD on the “WeimDad Body Index” for men: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Re-visiting-the-WeimDad-Body-Index-weight-in-pounds-height-in-inches/5-2514906/? Take your height in inches and times by 2. That’s the low end of a healthy weight for you. Then take your height in inches again and times by 3. That is the top end of a healthy weight for you. That puts me between 118-177. None of that is healthy for me. LOL. At 195 pounds, I'd look like a fucking beach ball. |
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Originally Posted By Mblades: Possibly but there is 1 of those people for every 1000 morbidly obese people. |
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Originally Posted By Explorer225: We can't we all just exercise and watch our calories? Everyone here say it's just that simple. Originally Posted By Explorer225: Originally Posted By BB: Everyone is getting fatter We can't we all just exercise and watch our calories? Everyone here say it's just that simple. It IS, but as I’ve stated time and again, “SIMPLE DOES NOT EQUAL EASY”, and MOST people want easy (which is why so many would rather inject themselves with something, since they couldn’t find the ‘easy pill’). |
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Originally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19: Ya no doubt the average is up but even here in small town Iowa there are plenty of fit girls they are the ones jogging through my neighborhood. The fatties are driving by while eating at the same time lol. My 18 yr old daughter is super fit because she took up the same lifestyle as her mom and dad. I distinctly remember this example of the mayotanker mentality. Back in college, the main group of friends I hung out with had ONE fat girl (before I’d ever heard the term DUFF), who always made snide comments about fit girls. We were hanging out at their apartment one day (4 girls shared the 2-bedroom apartment). I don’t recall the topic of conversation that triggered it, but I remember the fat girl saying, “Yeah… I hate seeing all those skinny bitches, always running around on campus in their tight little t-shirts and short shorts”, WHILE this hamplanet was sitting on the couch eating straight out of a large tub of Haagen Dazs. I remember thinking, “Did you ever consider that if YOU tried running around campus regularly instead of eating ice cream by the gallon, that you could be one of those ‘skinny bitches’, too?” *** one of the other guys had the same thought, and later mentioned, “And that particular flavor of Haagen Dazs she eats all the time, is literally the highest calorie flavor they make”. |
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Originally Posted By Mblades: Where the hell do you shop? I’ve never seen a size run of men’s pants that start at 36” waist. Originally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By GaryT1776: Originally Posted By SnoopisTDI: Did I see that right? The average man's waist is 40"!? Anyway... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60883/F4pJY-SXAAEh2KV-3144199.jpg I wear a 30 or 32 waist (varies between the type of trouser and manufacturer). It is virtually impossible to find on the shelves. It is even difficult to find in the YOUTH section. The standard on the shelf sizes START at 36 and rise from there. If I shop clearance racks I have a better chance of finding something that will fit me. Regarding the OP’s stat: My wife is 5’-3” and currently weighs 116lbs. She “needs” (her words) to get back to 112-113. We’re an athletic couple tho. Yesterday she walked, completed Pilates, played tennis and rode her bike to church group. I rucked four miles with a 70# pack, lifted. and walked with her later. People tell us “you’re too skinny”. We are not. We look healthy. I also get comments about my GORUCK activities. The people saying this are always “skinny fat” to “obese”. I always reply “it’s 90% what you put in … not what you take out”. TLDR: fat people are lazy. When I was in high school (1980s) we had ONE fat person in my class. Maybe a couple of people that would likely turn out fat too. Movies from the era, like Goonies, depicted one “fat kid” as a source of ridicule. Using the movie example, “Chunk” looks SMALL by comparison to most of the blob kids I see today. I watch people of all ages (18 to around 70) eating absolute garbage in our work cafe, daily. Some of the women, likely 50+ overweight, complain about their inability to lose weight while shoveling greasy fried food and guzzling HFCS sodas. They simultaneously make comments about the fresh, organic, food I’m snacking on (e.g. carrots, broccoli, tuna, maybe some Greek yogurt with a few blueberries tossed in, etc). I do live in a town that was voted “most obese “ a few years ago. Where the hell do you shop? I’ve never seen a size run of men’s pants that start at 36” waist. I don’t believe he’s talking about what manufacturers MAKE, but what physical stores tend to stock. I forgot my swim shorts on a trip one time, so I popped into the local Walmart to grab a pair. I had to search the whole rack to find the ONE pair of 32” swim shorts. There were far more pairs in the 40+ inch range than in the 30-inch range
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Originally Posted By imq707s: When you see people at the grocery store, and their carts look like this.....is it even a question as to why people are getting so fat? 95% of the stuff some people buy is processed.....created in a factory, comes in a plastic bag, and is full of sugar, salt, and all kinds of other chemicals. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSMu1hFdMV10ZLrSLIsMncz26aJKp9QXluue5CzcvnErcIUCI-VSvTkxssG&s=10 95+% chance this person is going to pay with EBT. Back before Covid, when various places were open 24 hours, I made the mistake of going to a Walmart for something late at night, on the 1st of the month. ONE lane open, and 5 people ahead of me, each with carts loaded up just like that. Learned my mistake, not to ever go there late at night on the 1st of the month. As GD is fond of pointing out, the ideal time to go to grocery stores, is around 7am, way before those types wake up. |
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Originally Posted By Explorer225: We can't we all just exercise and watch our calories? Everyone here say it's just that simple. It is that simple. The hard part is doing that consistently long term. Discipline is hard, especially for the modern person who keeps vast quantities of processed junk in their pantry or constantly orders on Door Dash. While sitting on their device for hours. The constant movement that used to be part of daily life has been replaced with brain rot and couch sitting. |
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Originally Posted By Quintin: Extremes either way are really bad. The gals who are like a size 1 eating 540 calories a day looking like a concentration camp survivor thinking they're healthy, they're just as bad if not worse as the folks racking up points on the McDonald's app smashing double quarter pounders four or five times a week. We absolutely skinny-shamed all of the heroine-model women in the country, and rightfully so. But when it came to shaming the fatties, suddenly its healthier at any size. |
WTF is up with this bullshit anti-bayo lug crap. Was there a group of irrate japanese guys bonzai charging disabled school children and puppies that I wasn't aware of?
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Go just about anywhere, and what do you see? FAT PEOPLE. Now, find a photograph of a crowded beach, mall, etc from the 1970s, and what do you NOT see? FAT PEOPLE.  The government's war on hunger has created a nation of FAT people. I cringe every time I see a reporter doing a report on people they refer to as food-deprived. Most of these people are just FAT, and we are giving them more food. |
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Originally Posted By bluemax_1: I don’t believe he’s talking about what manufacturers MAKE, but what physical stores tend to stock. I forgot my swim shorts on a trip one time, so I popped into the local Walmart to grab a pair. I had to search the whole rack to find the ONE pair of 32” swim shorts. There were far more pairs in the 40+ inch range than in the 30-inch range Location dependant as well, in the Northeast you can sometimes find 30" pants in big stores, in Nashville it was only a handful of places, Lucky Brand had 29" with normal legs, a lot of the "trendy" brands will have 28" but for toothpick legs. |
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Originally Posted By kpacman: When I went to college (1971-1975), the food plan on campus allowed unlimited helpings of all the food served that day. If I wanted to have three servings of meatloaf or turkey it wasn't an issue. We were all skinny weasels on campus. An obese student was a real outlier. Girls were hot as fuck and looked nothing like the students today. Ever take a look at cheerleaders at a high school game? When I was in high school, all the smokin girls were cheerleaders. Now it's just a sad collection of young women carrying 30 too many pounds. I forgot about that: you could have as much food as you wanted if you wanted 10 pork roll sandwiches and 10 servings of french fries with cheap yellow food-service-grade melted cheese on top, you could have it I never drank water. I drank soda or juice. |
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Originally Posted By Dominion21: True. And woke corporations like Target are happy to push the “fat acceptance” propaganda. I’ve been waiting to post these photos I took inside a Target store: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/417478/IMG_6275_jpeg-3831157.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/417478/IMG_6280_jpeg-3831158.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/417478/IMG_6279_jpeg-3831160.JPG These were taken in February 2023. That was around “peak wokeness” at Target. Although the evil filth of neo-marxism has completely soaked into our entire society, you cannot blame the stores for marketing to the "plus size ladies". who else is there to sell their product to? |
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Originally Posted By HobbitHunter: Yes, shorter and fatter. European genes are being bread out quickly. "bread" out... good one |
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Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad: I can’t really speak on women and height , but I have an old thread here in GD on the “WeimDad Body Index” for men: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Re-visiting-the-WeimDad-Body-Index-weight-in-pounds-height-in-inches/5-2514906/? Take your height in inches and times by 2. That’s the low end of a healthy weight for you. Then take your height in inches again and times by 3. That is the top end of a healthy weight for you. That's ludicrous. I am a 6'-5" guy. So 77x2 = 154 lbs. I would honestly look like a concentration camp inmate at that weight. Even when I was a bone-skinny college freshman I weighed 175. 77 x 3 = 231 lbs. That is my "lard ass" weight. At that weight I have a pouch of flab around my belly. My "slim but not skinny" weight is 205 to 210. No flab, probably 18% bodyfat. |
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Originally Posted By bluemax_1: “But muh muscle!” The easier and better one is “Take your height in inches, and divide by two. Is your waist bigger than that? Stop being FAT!” There is no voodoo involved in this. The thing to do is to look at yourself in the mirror and compare yourself to various body fat percentage photos. 15% is excellent for men in terms of health.  |
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Originally Posted By Cataly5t: Another aspect of this is the demonization of "fat" and the bogus claim that consuming fat makes you fat. In place of fat the food producers used sugar which nukes your metabolism. In addition your brain needs a certain amount of saturated fats - otherwise your mental health declines. Oddly enough a vegan whack job/researcher discovered the link and ultimately started consuming fish and maybe eggs too, been a long time since I read the account. Back during the Vietnam War, the American diet was so fatty that 18 year old combat casualties were showing incipient heart disease when autopsied. That made everyone panic about eating fat. Since human beings LOVE the taste of fats/oils and sugar, the food vendors stopped loading everything with fat and started loading it with sugar. That's why cheap garbage food like a Whopper has 12 grams of sugar. Sugar makes bad food taste wonderful. Snapple is a bottle of sugar ooze because without it, it would taste... like cheap garbage. Your body actually hates sugar and it effs your metabolism up. |
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Originally Posted By sleestakwhisperer: That's ludicrous. I am a 6'-5" guy. So 77x2 = 154 lbs. I would honestly look like a concentration camp inmate at that weight. Even when I was a bone-skinny college freshman I weighed 175. 77 x 3 = 231 lbs. That is my "lard ass" weight. At that weight I have a pouch of flab around my belly. My "slim but not skinny" weight is 205 to 210. No flab, probably 18% bodyfat. Not much different than what the BMI chart says: Attached File |
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Did I make it in before the chubby chasers??? To point, everyone (men, women, kids) are getting fatter and fatter. |
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Originally Posted By Shazbat: Location dependant as well, in the Northeast you can sometimes find 30" pants in big stores, in Nashville it was only a handful of places, Lucky Brand had 29" with normal legs, a lot of the "trendy" brands will have 28" but for toothpick legs. Funny thing my wife had on some jeans I thought were new. She laughed and said, these were our daughters jeans when she was 16. |
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Originally Posted By sleestakwhisperer: Back during the Vietnam War, the American diet was so fatty that 18 year old combat casualties were showing incipient heart disease when autopsied. That made everyone panic about eating fat. Since human beings LOVE the taste of fats/oils and sugar, the food vendors stopped loading everything with fat and started loading it with sugar. That's why cheap garbage food like a Whopper has 12 grams of sugar. Sugar makes bad food taste wonderful. Snapple is a bottle of sugar ooze because without it, it would taste... like cheap garbage. Your body actually hates sugar and it effs your metabolism up. I saw some M.D. quoting that Vietnam KIA study. I then tried to look that study up. It has all sorts of confounding issues…. The most eye searingly obvious is how do the researchers know what the dead troops were eating say six months to a year prior to being KIA’ed? How do they know that this “incipient heart disease” wasn’t caused by smoking? Camel cigarettes used to come in the C-rats. Or better yet, maybe the stress of being in combat and having cortisol levels off the charts was causing this “heart disease”? I sure as shit don’t “trust the science” from 6 years ago. I’m trusting the science even less from SIXTY years ago.  |
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Originally Posted By FreefallRet: Even 32" waist pants are hard to find. Funny thing my wife had on some jeans I thought were new. She laughed and said, these were our daughters jeans when she was 16. Did you smoke cigarettes while you were on active duty? Are you still using tobacco in any form now? |
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Originally Posted By sleestakwhisperer: That's ludicrous. I am a 6'-5" guy. So 77x2 = 154 lbs. I would honestly look like a concentration camp inmate at that weight. Even when I was a bone-skinny college freshman I weighed 175. 77 x 3 = 231 lbs. That is my "lard ass" weight. At that weight I have a pouch of flab around my belly. My "slim but not skinny" weight is 205 to 210. No flab, probably 18% bodyfat. My 19yr old son is 6' 4" and 140lbs, most kids looked like him in the 80s.  |
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Originally Posted By FreefallRet: Even 32" waist pants are hard to find. Funny thing my wife had on some jeans I thought were new. She laughed and said, these were our daughters jeans when she was 16. Yes to your first point. Funny as heck to your second, but sadly true. I think even mens pants are suffering from vanity sizing these days as my ancient 32" ones are about the same waist as my 29" now. |
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Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad: Did you smoke cigarettes while you were on active duty? Are you still using tobacco in any form now? I quit smoking at 50, pretty nasty habit. In the Army I ran 20 or so miles a week for 25 years. I now walk 2-3 miles a week in my late 50s. me at 45yrs old  Me now in my late 50s  |
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Originally Posted By imq707s: When you see people at the grocery store, and their carts look like this.....is it even a question as to why people are getting so fat? 95% of the stuff some people buy is processed.....created in a factory, comes in a plastic bag, and is full of sugar, salt, and all kinds of other chemicals. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSMu1hFdMV10ZLrSLIsMncz26aJKp9QXluue5CzcvnErcIUCI-VSvTkxssG&s=10 My cart is half that and half healthy stuff.  I exercise, so it's okay. My 6-pack hasn't been crushed by a keg yet (like my younger bro  )
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Originally Posted By Shazbat: Yes to your first point. Funny as heck to your second, but sadly true. I think even mens pants are suffering from vanity sizing these days as my ancient 32" ones are about the same waist as my 29" now. I have some ragged old 30" Levi's from decades ago that fit like my new 32" jeans. |
Old fashioned people here. Wife has some good genes and active lifestyle 6 ft @135 she wears it nicely. I am similar in breed and lifestyle 6 ft 3+ @ 215Kiddo has us both beat, a few inches taller than dad and lean like a farmhand. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By bluemax_1: I don’t believe he’s talking about what manufacturers MAKE, but what physical stores tend to stock. I forgot my swim shorts on a trip one time, so I popped into the local Walmart to grab a pair. I had to search the whole rack to find the ONE pair of 32” swim shorts. There were far more pairs in the 40+ inch range than in the 30-inch range Originally Posted By bluemax_1: Originally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By GaryT1776: Originally Posted By SnoopisTDI: Did I see that right? The average man's waist is 40"!? Anyway... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60883/F4pJY-SXAAEh2KV-3144199.jpg I wear a 30 or 32 waist (varies between the type of trouser and manufacturer). It is virtually impossible to find on the shelves. It is even difficult to find in the YOUTH section. The standard on the shelf sizes START at 36 and rise from there. If I shop clearance racks I have a better chance of finding something that will fit me. Regarding the OP’s stat: My wife is 5’-3” and currently weighs 116lbs. She “needs” (her words) to get back to 112-113. We’re an athletic couple tho. Yesterday she walked, completed Pilates, played tennis and rode her bike to church group. I rucked four miles with a 70# pack, lifted. and walked with her later. People tell us “you’re too skinny”. We are not. We look healthy. I also get comments about my GORUCK activities. The people saying this are always “skinny fat” to “obese”. I always reply “it’s 90% what you put in … not what you take out”. TLDR: fat people are lazy. When I was in high school (1980s) we had ONE fat person in my class. Maybe a couple of people that would likely turn out fat too. Movies from the era, like Goonies, depicted one “fat kid” as a source of ridicule. Using the movie example, “Chunk” looks SMALL by comparison to most of the blob kids I see today. I watch people of all ages (18 to around 70) eating absolute garbage in our work cafe, daily. Some of the women, likely 50+ overweight, complain about their inability to lose weight while shoveling greasy fried food and guzzling HFCS sodas. They simultaneously make comments about the fresh, organic, food I’m snacking on (e.g. carrots, broccoli, tuna, maybe some Greek yogurt with a few blueberries tossed in, etc). I do live in a town that was voted “most obese “ a few years ago. Where the hell do you shop? I’ve never seen a size run of men’s pants that start at 36” waist. I don’t believe he’s talking about what manufacturers MAKE, but what physical stores tend to stock. I forgot my swim shorts on a trip one time, so I popped into the local Walmart to grab a pair. I had to search the whole rack to find the ONE pair of 32” swim shorts. There were far more pairs in the 40+ inch range than in the 30-inch range Maybe all the small sizes sold out. |
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