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8/31/2014 11:50:04 AM EDT
Went to urgent care, they took x-rays and ran a EKG, doctor lady said they came back fine, but go to the ER right now for blood work and more tests. She said she couldn't see anything wrong, maybe it's pulmonary, blood clot, something that will require lab work & more to determine.

For the past 3 weeks, I've felt pretty constant pressure on my chest & back, it hurts more when I take deep breaths, sit at certain angles or move around. It feels a little better when I sit/stand with perfect posture. I usually feel the pain dead center of my chest, even with my nipples and same spot on my back. After visiting urgent care and having the doctor and I poke at my chest, I actually feel the pain a couple inches left now. I get shortness of breath when I move around a little or walk upstairs, didn't a few weeks ago. I also feel discomfort swallowing, I've been eating a lot of yogurts and soup for the past couple weeks.

I'd rather not go to the ER for all these tests. As a 26 year old child, I'm still on my parents insurance (didn't cost them extra to add me). However, they have absolutely no idea what the copay, deductible, or fucking anything other than they pay like $20 when they visit the doctor and it might have cost a couple hundred when my dad had a cancerous mole cut off his chest last year. I'd like to just schedule an appointment for the testing instead of risking some kind of $10,000 ER bill and I haven't slept since Friday night, so I'd like to sleep.

Probably should have gone in earlier, but it would feel a little better right before I was going to make an appointment and figured it was just muscle pain due to lifting weights and being hunched over pinning mags for several hours per day. Took a couple days off working and haven't lifted weights for 10+ days and it hurts more now than ever. Also should point out that I nearly choked on a piece of apple the day before the chest pain started. The apple chunk didn't fill my throat, but was just odd shaped, it took several minutes before I was finally able to force it down.

My body temperature was 99.2, so that's close enough. Blood pressure was 141/76, IIRC.
8/31/2014 11:53:19 AM EDT
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Doesn't sound cardiac in nature due to musculoskeletal pain presentation.  Still a concern as it could be any number of other problems.  

I'd go to the ED but I have good insurance.
8/31/2014 11:53:32 AM EDT
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Obligitory.


8/31/2014 11:54:43 AM EDT
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I had similar pains that were diagnosed as chondritis.


8/31/2014 11:56:05 AM EDT
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Old age. Shit starts hurtiin.
8/31/2014 11:58:10 AM EDT
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How did they determine it?

This stuff seems difficult to figure out, everything is chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, and so on.

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Old age. Shit starts hurtiin.



I turned 26 and started falling apart, can't imagine when I'm 40 or even an official adult at 27.
8/31/2014 12:06:45 PM EDT
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How did they determine it?

This stuff seems difficult to figure out, everything is chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, and so on.




I turned 26 and started falling apart, can't imagine when I'm 40 or even an official adult at 27.
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How did they determine it?

This stuff seems difficult to figure out, everything is chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, and so on.

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Old age. Shit starts hurtiin.



I turned 26 and started falling apart, can't imagine when I'm 40 or even an official adult at 27.



I started feeling pains in my late 30s early 40s. Thought Heart attack went in for all the test  everything was good. Went back in to the emergency room a week later with chest pains. Dr checked me out found nothing. He also told me he had chest pains at times said stress more than likely.
He also said if nothing else kills you first you will die of a heart attack. Just how it goes I guess.

If you been checked out and everything looks good maybe think about the stress in your life if any.  

Good luck bud!
8/31/2014 12:10:30 PM EDT
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How did they determine it?

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I turned 26 and started falling apart, can't imagine when I'm 40 or even an official adult at 27.
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How did they determine it?

This stuff seems difficult to figure out, everything is chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, and so on.

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Old age. Shit starts hurtiin.



I turned 26 and started falling apart, can't imagine when I'm 40 or even an official adult at 27.



Cheer up Bud.................it gets worser and worser   Think about 60.  The aches and pains is/are the best way to know that you are still alive.  No pain ???  Well you could be dead.

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8/31/2014 12:16:03 PM EDT
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Same here. 26 has been entirely uphill for me too. Fucking sucks.

I went in for the same symptoms about three months ago. No back pain, but a searing sharp pain in a few places on my upper chest, mostly right side. Checked into the ER at Kaiser Permanente and had an physical exam, EKG, and standard radiograph done. Doc said everything was fine and said stress was the likely culprit. He wanted to prescibe some heavy-duty pain medications like vicodin or other opiates, but I politely refused and opted to ride it out with a few Ibuprofen 200mg tablets.

Try meditation.
8/31/2014 12:33:36 PM EDT
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Well, just called urgent care to see if she would write me an order so I could just visit the hospital for the further tests.

Nope, absolutely not, she says I need to go to the ER right away, the tests need done and only the ER can do them now......

I'm thinking it's a liability thing, when in doubt, ER.

Pretty sure my health insurance is good. How does the whole copay thing work on situations like this? My parents think they read something that said a $10,000 deductible, of which they've used $200, yet they say when they go to the doctor, they only have to pay $20, and insurance covers the rest. Don't you have to use up your deductible before it will kick in?

I'm sitting here with my BCBS card, group #, enrollee ID, RxGroup, RxBin, unable to determine what kind of coverage I have, website says error when I try to punch anything in.
8/31/2014 12:36:03 PM EDT
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Same here. 26 has been entirely uphill for me too. Fucking sucks.

I went in for the same symptoms about three months ago. No back pain, but a searing sharp pain in a few places on my upper chest, mostly right side. Checked into the ER at Kaiser Permanente and had an physical exam, EKG, and standard radiograph done. Doc said everything was fine and said stress was the likely culprit. He wanted to prescibe some heavy-duty pain medications like vicodin or other opiates, but I politely refused and opted to ride it out with a few Ibuprofen 200mg tablets.

Try meditation.
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I turned 26 and started falling apart, can't imagine when I'm 40 or even an official adult at 27.

Same here. 26 has been entirely uphill for me too. Fucking sucks.

I went in for the same symptoms about three months ago. No back pain, but a searing sharp pain in a few places on my upper chest, mostly right side. Checked into the ER at Kaiser Permanente and had an physical exam, EKG, and standard radiograph done. Doc said everything was fine and said stress was the likely culprit. He wanted to prescibe some heavy-duty pain medications like vicodin or other opiates, but I politely refused and opted to ride it out with a few Ibuprofen 200mg tablets.

Try meditation.



no cardiac problems here but I became less resilient in my mid 20s as well.  It must be genetic as my dad can hurt himself in the most minor ways and have it hurt for weeks/months.  I remember one time when he was golfing and dug in a bit with an iron - his elbow and upper arm hurt for a month over that.  He's a very active guy too - not really athletic but is always working around the house or doing something.

I crawled around on a concrete floor a few months ago working on a car and my legs all the way up to my hips hurt for a month - I'd get out of bed and could barely hobble down the stairs.  Another time I fell over backwards (gently as I was pulling a tree with a rope and went down as the tree went down) and suffered a SI sprain, that fucked my low back up for a few months.
8/31/2014 12:37:55 PM EDT
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Well, just called urgent care to see if she would write me an order so I could just visit the hospital for the further tests.

Nope, absolutely not, she says I need to go to the ER right away, the tests need done and only the ER can do them now......

I'm thinking it's a liability thing, when in doubt, ER.

Pretty sure my health insurance is good. How does the whole copay thing work on situations like this? My parents think they read something that said a $10,000 deductible, of which they've used $200, yet they say when they go to the doctor, they only have to pay $20, and insurance covers the rest. Don't you have to use up your deductible before it will kick in?

I'm sitting here with my BCBS card, group #, enrollee ID, RxGroup, RxBin, unable to determine what kind of coverage I have, website says error when I try to punch anything in.
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The lady at the front desk will run your card and tell you what's covered. Don't be afraid to ask. Typically ER visit Co pays are higher but every insurance policy is different.
8/31/2014 12:39:49 PM EDT
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Same here. 26 has been entirely uphill for me too. Fucking sucks.

I went in for the same symptoms about three months ago. No back pain, but a searing sharp pain in a few places on my upper chest, mostly right side. Checked into the ER at Kaiser Permanente and had an physical exam, EKG, and standard radiograph done. Doc said everything was fine and said stress was the likely culprit. He wanted to prescibe some heavy-duty pain medications like vicodin or other opiates, but I politely refused and opted to ride it out with a few Ibuprofen 200mg tablets.

Try meditation.
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I turned 26 and started falling apart, can't imagine when I'm 40 or even an official adult at 27.

Same here. 26 has been entirely uphill for me too. Fucking sucks.

I went in for the same symptoms about three months ago. No back pain, but a searing sharp pain in a few places on my upper chest, mostly right side. Checked into the ER at Kaiser Permanente and had an physical exam, EKG, and standard radiograph done. Doc said everything was fine and said stress was the likely culprit. He wanted to prescibe some heavy-duty pain medications like vicodin or other opiates, but I politely refused and opted to ride it out with a few Ibuprofen 200mg tablets.

Try meditation.


I have been stressed quite a bit. Bought a house a few months back that needs a little work that I haven't gotten around to. Moved to TN, found out the great income tax free state has a special corporate tax for single member llcs that pay federal taxes as an individual. I've been working 7 days per week, 10+ hours per day since 0bama was reelected. Quarterly estimated payments are due in 2 weeks, inventory counts coming up, scrambling to get stuff shipped.
8/31/2014 12:42:23 PM EDT
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Well, just called urgent care to see if she would write me an order so I could just visit the hospital for the further tests.

Nope, absolutely not, she says I need to go to the ER right away, the tests need done and only the ER can do them now......

I'm thinking it's a liability thing, when in doubt, ER.

Pretty sure my health insurance is good. How does the whole copay thing work on situations like this? My parents think they read something that said a $10,000 deductible, of which they've used $200, yet they say when they go to the doctor, they only have to pay $20, and insurance covers the rest. Don't you have to use up your deductible before it will kick in?

I'm sitting here with my BCBS card, group #, enrollee ID, RxGroup, RxBin, unable to determine what kind of coverage I have, website says error when I try to punch anything in.



The lady at the front desk will run your card and tell you what's covered. Don't be afraid to ask. Typically ER visit Co pays are higher but every insurance policy is different.


Did that already, she said she isn't allowed to do it, but she'll try anyways, but the system is usually down on Sunday and it was. Talked to her about it for 20 minutes about it. She said ask your parents, they'll have to know, 100% certain, my parents didn't know and are off to a barbecue.
8/31/2014 12:44:00 PM EDT
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Did that already, she said she isn't allowed to do it, but she'll try anyways, but the system is usually down on Sunday and it was. Talked to her about it for 20 minutes about it. She said ask your parents, they'll have to know, 100% certain, my parents didn't know and are off to a barbecue.
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Well, just called urgent care to see if she would write me an order so I could just visit the hospital for the further tests.

Nope, absolutely not, she says I need to go to the ER right away, the tests need done and only the ER can do them now......

I'm thinking it's a liability thing, when in doubt, ER.

Pretty sure my health insurance is good. How does the whole copay thing work on situations like this? My parents think they read something that said a $10,000 deductible, of which they've used $200, yet they say when they go to the doctor, they only have to pay $20, and insurance covers the rest. Don't you have to use up your deductible before it will kick in?

I'm sitting here with my BCBS card, group #, enrollee ID, RxGroup, RxBin, unable to determine what kind of coverage I have, website says error when I try to punch anything in.



The lady at the front desk will run your card and tell you what's covered. Don't be afraid to ask. Typically ER visit Co pays are higher but every insurance policy is different.


Did that already, she said she isn't allowed to do it, but she'll try anyways, but the system is usually down on Sunday and it was. Talked to her about it for 20 minutes about it. She said ask your parents, they'll have to know, 100% certain, my parents didn't know and are off to a barbecue.



Wow they do it for me hell I even talk money with the Dr.
8/31/2014 12:47:56 PM EDT
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Don't rule out indigestion.  It can feel surprisingly like a heart attack, and you mentioned something about a change in diet...?
Try an Alka-Seltzer and see if that makes any difference.
8/31/2014 12:48:11 PM EDT
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AIDS-induced herpatitis of your shinpiden, no question.
8/31/2014 12:51:54 PM EDT
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OP, any swelling in the feet or ankles?  sudden weight gain (ie 3+ lbs in a day or two)? still pissing like usual?

I'd go to the ER.  Seriously ongoing chest pain, fatigue, dysphagia, shortness of breath.  All symptoms of serious shit.
8/31/2014 12:52:41 PM EDT
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The lady at the front desk will run your card and tell you what's covered. Don't be afraid to ask. Typically ER visit Co pays are higher but every insurance policy is different.


Did that already, she said she isn't allowed to do it, but she'll try anyways, but the system is usually down on Sunday and it was. Talked to her about it for 20 minutes about it. She said ask your parents, they'll have to know, 100% certain, my parents didn't know and are off to a barbecue.



Wow they do it for me hell I even talk money with the Dr.


She seemed like she actually did run it and punch stuff into the computer and offered for me to come around the desk area and see for myself or lean way over the table to have a look.

Dumb that I have to ask, but how does the copay work with deductibles? If the deductible is $10,000, I'll have to pay every penny until I hit that $10,000 mark? Is copay a flat rate that I pay or a percentage of the total, is it applied even if I haven't reached the deductible?
8/31/2014 12:54:38 PM EDT
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stress can cause a lot of issues with the body, I've been dealing with a lot of stress for the past 6-8 months and everything hurts. Indigestion and constipation can cause chest pains also.
8/31/2014 12:55:02 PM EDT
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OP, any swelling in the feet or ankles?  sudden weight gain (ie 3+ lbs in a day or two)? still pissing like usual?

I'd go to the ER.  Seriously ongoing chest pain, fatigue, dysphagia, shortness of breath.  All symptoms of serious shit.
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Went to urgent care, they took x-rays and ran a EKG, doctor lady said they came back fine, but go to the ER right now for blood work and more tests. She said she couldn't see anything wrong, maybe it's pulmonary, blood clot, something that will require lab work & more to determine.
8/31/2014 12:55:06 PM EDT
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OP, any swelling in the feet or ankles?  sudden weight gain (ie 3+ lbs in a day or two)? still pissing like usual?

I'd go to the ER.  Seriously ongoing chest pain, fatigue, dysphagia, shortness of breath.  All symptoms of serious shit.
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No swelling, pissing is fine, my scale was left in Michigan, but I don't believe there has been any weight gain.
8/31/2014 12:57:34 PM EDT
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She seemed like she actually did run it and punch stuff into the computer and offered for me to come around the desk area and see for myself or lean way over the table to have a look.

Dumb that I have to ask, but how does the copay work with deductibles? If the deductible is $10,000, I'll have to pay every penny until I hit that $10,000 mark? Is copay a flat rate that I pay or a percentage of the total, is it applied even if I haven't reached the deductible?
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The lady at the front desk will run your card and tell you what's covered. Don't be afraid to ask. Typically ER visit Co pays are higher but every insurance policy is different.


Did that already, she said she isn't allowed to do it, but she'll try anyways, but the system is usually down on Sunday and it was. Talked to her about it for 20 minutes about it. She said ask your parents, they'll have to know, 100% certain, my parents didn't know and are off to a barbecue.



Wow they do it for me hell I even talk money with the Dr.


She seemed like she actually did run it and punch stuff into the computer and offered for me to come around the desk area and see for myself or lean way over the table to have a look.

Dumb that I have to ask, but how does the copay work with deductibles? If the deductible is $10,000, I'll have to pay every penny until I hit that $10,000 mark? Is copay a flat rate that I pay or a percentage of the total, is it applied even if I haven't reached the deductible?



No I think you have a copay that will cover your visit. The deductible would be for hospitalization or surgery. But I'm not  an expert on policies.
But that has been my experience.
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She seemed like she actually did run it and punch stuff into the computer and offered for me to come around the desk area and see for myself or lean way over the table to have a look.

Dumb that I have to ask, but how does the copay work with deductibles? If the deductible is $10,000, I'll have to pay every penny until I hit that $10,000 mark? Is copay a flat rate that I pay or a percentage of the total, is it applied even if I haven't reached the deductible?
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The lady at the front desk will run your card and tell you what's covered. Don't be afraid to ask. Typically ER visit Co pays are higher but every insurance policy is different.


Did that already, she said she isn't allowed to do it, but she'll try anyways, but the system is usually down on Sunday and it was. Talked to her about it for 20 minutes about it. She said ask your parents, they'll have to know, 100% certain, my parents didn't know and are off to a barbecue.



Wow they do it for me hell I even talk money with the Dr.


She seemed like she actually did run it and punch stuff into the computer and offered for me to come around the desk area and see for myself or lean way over the table to have a look.

Dumb that I have to ask, but how does the copay work with deductibles? If the deductible is $10,000, I'll have to pay every penny until I hit that $10,000 mark? Is copay a flat rate that I pay or a percentage of the total, is it applied even if I haven't reached the deductible?


My understanding through my insurance is the co pay is simply what you pay for the visit itself as a base charge. That would be they find nothing really wrong and run no other major tests or anything. All the crud after that is what comes out of your deductible. If I am wrong someone please correct me, but that is my understanding of it. (I have not had to use my insurance yet so I am uncertain but that is how I thought it was explained to me when I first got my own insurance a few years back)

Of course plans do differ too.. I am on a welmark wellness plan through my work that gives you a big break on your premium and things like co pay and deductible if you are not a big fatty who smokes and drinks. Those people pay more for their premiums and have higher deductibles.
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My understanding through my insurance is the co pay is simply what you pay for the visit itself as a base charge. That would be they find nothing really wrong and run no other tests or anything. All the crud after that is what comes out of your deductible. If I am wrong someone please correct me, but that is my understanding of it. (I have not had to use my insurance yet so I am uncertain but that is how I thought it was explained to me when I first got my own insurance a few years back)
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The lady at the front desk will run your card and tell you what's covered. Don't be afraid to ask. Typically ER visit Co pays are higher but every insurance policy is different.


Did that already, she said she isn't allowed to do it, but she'll try anyways, but the system is usually down on Sunday and it was. Talked to her about it for 20 minutes about it. She said ask your parents, they'll have to know, 100% certain, my parents didn't know and are off to a barbecue.



Wow they do it for me hell I even talk money with the Dr.


She seemed like she actually did run it and punch stuff into the computer and offered for me to come around the desk area and see for myself or lean way over the table to have a look.

Dumb that I have to ask, but how does the copay work with deductibles? If the deductible is $10,000, I'll have to pay every penny until I hit that $10,000 mark? Is copay a flat rate that I pay or a percentage of the total, is it applied even if I haven't reached the deductible?


My understanding through my insurance is the co pay is simply what you pay for the visit itself as a base charge. That would be they find nothing really wrong and run no other tests or anything. All the crud after that is what comes out of your deductible. If I am wrong someone please correct me, but that is my understanding of it. (I have not had to use my insurance yet so I am uncertain but that is how I thought it was explained to me when I first got my own insurance a few years back)



Problem is every policy is different hard to say what the OPs. Covers or don't cover.

OP have you called the 800 number on the back of your card.

FYI don't let this stress you out too much. Stress kills
8/31/2014 1:07:10 PM EDT
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Dibs
8/31/2014 1:08:39 PM EDT
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I was at the minor emergency center a couple weeks ago and the hot lady Dr had a sexy tattoo down the side of her legs

Fucking hot!
8/31/2014 1:11:15 PM EDT
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Don't screw around with chest pain. $$ now, and just be safe. I went to the ER with what I thought was a stroke at 38 turns out I inherited my dad's panic attacks but glad they did all the tests to be safe.
8/31/2014 1:12:55 PM EDT
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Did your Co Pay cover the tests?
8/31/2014 1:12:58 PM EDT
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I am NOT a doctor, nor am I even qualified to put a band aide on you, but in my case I spent about $5k in one night to learn what "Costochondritis" meant. I had broke my collar bone in a work related accident a couple of years before, the weather was getting colder and arthritis was settling into the area of the break and radiating into my sternum.


YMMV, do NOT fuck around with this. It's prolly nothing, but you need a few professionals to determine that and not you or me.
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I am NOT a doctor, nor am I even qualified to put a band aide on you, but in my case I spent about $5k in one night to learn what "Costochondritis" meant. I had broke my collar bone in a work related accident a couple of years before, the weather was getting colder and arthritis was settling into the area of the break and radiating into my sternum.


YMMV, do NOT fuck around with this. It's prolly nothing, but you need a few professionals to determine that and not you or me.
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8/31/2014 1:18:25 PM EDT
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Did your Co Pay cover the tests?


$100 copay for ER, then pay individual deductible which was about $200 with famille insurance. Regular Dr copays are $20. ER visits can cost but worth it for emergencies
8/31/2014 1:18:45 PM EDT
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Problem is every policy is different hard to say what the OPs. Covers or don't cover.

OP have you called the 800 number on the back of your card.

FYI don't let this stress you out too much. Stress kills
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Wow they do it for me hell I even talk money with the Dr.


She seemed like she actually did run it and punch stuff into the computer and offered for me to come around the desk area and see for myself or lean way over the table to have a look.

Dumb that I have to ask, but how does the copay work with deductibles? If the deductible is $10,000, I'll have to pay every penny until I hit that $10,000 mark? Is copay a flat rate that I pay or a percentage of the total, is it applied even if I haven't reached the deductible?


My understanding through my insurance is the co pay is simply what you pay for the visit itself as a base charge. That would be they find nothing really wrong and run no other tests or anything. All the crud after that is what comes out of your deductible. If I am wrong someone please correct me, but that is my understanding of it. (I have not had to use my insurance yet so I am uncertain but that is how I thought it was explained to me when I first got my own insurance a few years back)



Problem is every policy is different hard to say what the OPs. Covers or don't cover.

OP have you called the 800 number on the back of your card.

FYI don't let this stress you out too much. Stress kills


Call center is down. Their website has been turning out jack shit. BCBS PPO, wtfbbq.

Lol, this is stressing me most of all. If I died, my wife wouldn't know how to sell my firearms for market value. Luckily, I went the opposite way of Arfcom, I told her the true price I paid, but told her they're all up 300% in value, so I must keep buying more. Most of it is true though. My dad recently sold an unissued Yugo SKS that he had bought from Dunhams 10 years ago for $100. Fuck, I can't count on him to price them correctly, and I would have paid him $200+.....
8/31/2014 1:20:05 PM EDT
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I can help her out with that if you like. And you wouldn't even need to worry about me moving in on her when you are gone either
8/31/2014 1:23:57 PM EDT
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Did your Co Pay cover the tests?
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Don't screw around with chest pain. $$ now, and just be safe. I went to the ER with what I thought was a stroke at 38 turns out I inherited my dad's panic attacks but glad they did all the tests to be safe.



Did your Co Pay cover the tests?


A co pay covers the visit and is the same if they run 20 tests or none.  Tests are charged against your deductible.
8/31/2014 1:24:01 PM EDT
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I can help her out with that if you like. And you wouldn't even need to worry about me moving in on her when you are gone either
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I don't know, that pony appears to be holding an AR, most of my stuff are those beloved 3rd world trash can guns.
8/31/2014 1:26:48 PM EDT
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A co pay covers the visit and is the same if they run 20 tests or none.  Tests are charged against your deductible.
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Don't screw around with chest pain. $$ now, and just be safe. I went to the ER with what I thought was a stroke at 38 turns out I inherited my dad's panic attacks but glad they did all the tests to be safe.



Did your Co Pay cover the tests?


A co pay covers the visit and is the same if they run 20 tests or none.  Tests are charged against your deductible.



Fuck, that's not what I wanted to hear. So I'll cough up $150 instead of $700 for the visit, then I would be out like $2,000 up to $10,000 for the rest.

Yep, I think I've finally determined that I have this plan: http://www.mdaprograms.com/Portals/4/pdf/Simply%20Blue/sb_2500.pdf
8/31/2014 1:30:52 PM EDT
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No swelling, pissing is fine, my scale was left in Michigan, but I don't believe there has been any weight gain.
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OP, any swelling in the feet or ankles?  sudden weight gain (ie 3+ lbs in a day or two)? still pissing like usual?

I'd go to the ER.  Seriously ongoing chest pain, fatigue, dysphagia, shortness of breath.  All symptoms of serious shit.


No swelling, pissing is fine, my scale was left in Michigan, but I don't believe there has been any weight gain.


I'd still go to the ER.  If you wait to see a general practitioner he is just gonna order the same tests for you as they would in an ER and your doctors offices don't have CT scanners and sonograms so your probably gonna end up at the hospital anyways.

Anyways I see your super stressed about the whole cash situation, but you stated yourself that you already had to take some time off work because of this so wouldn't you rather just take care of it so you can get back to work rather than let it get worse and miss even more time on the job?  Sounds like its actually costing you to NOT seek treatment at this point.
8/31/2014 1:36:59 PM EDT
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I'd still go to the ER.  If you wait to see a general practitioner he is just gonna order the same tests for you as they would in an ER and your doctors offices don't have CT scanners and sonograms so your probably gonna end up at the hospital anyways.

Anyways I see your super stressed about the whole cash situation, but you stated yourself that you already had to take some time off work because of this so wouldn't you rather just take care of it so you can get back to work rather than let it get worse and miss even more time on the job?  Sounds like its actually costing you to NOT seek treatment at this point.
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OP, any swelling in the feet or ankles?  sudden weight gain (ie 3+ lbs in a day or two)? still pissing like usual?

I'd go to the ER.  Seriously ongoing chest pain, fatigue, dysphagia, shortness of breath.  All symptoms of serious shit.


No swelling, pissing is fine, my scale was left in Michigan, but I don't believe there has been any weight gain.


I'd still go to the ER.  If you wait to see a general practitioner he is just gonna order the same tests for you as they would in an ER and your doctors offices don't have CT scanners and sonograms so your probably gonna end up at the hospital anyways.

Anyways I see your super stressed about the whole cash situation, but you stated yourself that you already had to take some time off work because of this so wouldn't you rather just take care of it so you can get back to work rather than let it get worse and miss even more time on the job?  Sounds like its actually costing you to NOT seek treatment at this point.


I'm self employed and probably need to slow down on work anyways, but yea, it's costing me. I have been thinking that, which is why I finally decided to go to urgent care, where they did absolutely fucking nothing.
8/31/2014 1:37:53 PM EDT
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I don't know, that pony appears to be holding an AR, most of my stuff are those beloved 3rd world trash can guns.
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I can help her out with that if you like. And you wouldn't even need to worry about me moving in on her when you are gone either


I don't know, that pony appears to be holding an AR, most of my stuff are those beloved 3rd world trash can guns.


That is not an issue... I am quite the trash can gun man myself
8/31/2014 1:40:08 PM EDT
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It's funny,when we were young those aches & pains never bothered us & now that we are old (55)when we have any little pain we think SHIT, must be having a heart attack or stroke,

 
or something major.Op hope everything works out.
8/31/2014 1:45:06 PM EDT
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One of the most difficult things in medicine is differential diagnosis.

Your symptoms sound very much like esophageal/gastric issues such as acid reflux, ulcer, gastritis, hiatal hernia, etc.

It would be exceedingly rare to have coronary artery disease at 26 unless you have severe hypercholesterolemia, Kawasaki disease, etc.

Musculoskeletal origins like chostochondritis or cracked ribs typically have a pinpoint location for the pain

Esophageal cancer or metastatic cancer in the chest would again be exceedingly rare and easy to see in a CT scan

If all initial tests are negative I would try an aggressive course of acid reducers and carafate for a presumption of esohphago-gastric origin.
8/31/2014 1:46:59 PM EDT
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I'm not a doctor and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night bit I have had a blood clot in my lungs.



You need to get in touch with a Pulmonary doctor - get a referral from your GP and they will probably get a scan of your lungs.



I felt bad for over two weeks and GP and cardiac people didn' t find a thing.  Felt run down, hard to breathe and lot's more.  One Friday night I stood up and hit the floor out cold.  Trip to the ER. xrays, blood tests and diagnosis - blood clot in the lungs.    Three days in ICU and a couple on the ward floor and months on Oxygen and blood thinner.



Get on it now!
8/31/2014 1:47:32 PM EDT
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I haven't slept in 24 hours, I'm probably going to sleep and see how it feels in the morning.

She kept asking what kind of pain it was, stabbing, sharp, dull, burning, and a few others. I'm always terrible at trying to describe it. When I lean forward and breathe in, it hurts between my shoulder blades, slightly offset to the left and if I lean back and breathe in, it hurts an inch or two left of center.

There is no holiday surcharge if I wait until Monday, right?

Then I read Coyote6's post....

Ulcers and acid reflux had crossed my mind, just picked up a bottle of tums and alka seltzer.
8/31/2014 1:47:36 PM EDT
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The only way to find out coverage these days is to call the number on the back of the card. Which is only open M-F 8-5
I had two fake heart attacks last year. Cost me about $8000 for both out of pocket. I have a High Deductible health plan.

Sounds like you have a PPO. You have to hit max out of pocket to get 100% coverage. and no matter what you will have the 20% deductible.
You really need to review the plan to know for sure



In my case it was (probably) anxiety. The next test they wanted me to get was a bloodflow/heart valve test. At $4500 I said fuck it.
8/31/2014 1:49:04 PM EDT
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One of the most difficult things in medicine is differential diagnosis.

Your symptoms sound very much like esophageal/gastric issues such as acid reflux, ulcer, gastritis, hiatal hernia, etc.

It would be exceedingly rare to have coronary artery disease at 26 unless you have severe hypercholesterolemia, Kawasaki disease, etc.

Musculoskeletal origins like chostochondritis or cracked ribs typically have a pinpoint location for the pain

Esophageal cancer or metastatic cancer in the chest would again be exceedingly rare and easy to see in a CT scan

If all initial tests are negative I would try an aggressive course of acid reducers and carafate for a presumption of esohphago-gastric origin.
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You silver tongued devil!
8/31/2014 1:50:06 PM EDT
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I'm not a doctor and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night bit I have had a blood clot in my lungs.

You need to get in touch with a Pulmonary doctor - get a referral from your GP and they will probably get a scan of your lungs.

I felt bad for over two weeks and GP and cardiac people didn' t find a thing.  Felt run down, hard to breathe and lot's more.  One Friday night I stood up and hit the floor out cold.  Trip to the ER. xrays, blood tests and diagnosis - blood clot in the lungs.    Three days in ICU and a couple on the ward floor and months on Oxygen and blood thinner.

Get on it now!
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Oh shit I think I might go in also.
8/31/2014 1:57:26 PM EDT
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How did they determine it?

This stuff seems difficult to figure out, everything is chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, and so on.




I turned 26 and started falling apart, can't imagine when I'm 40 or even an official adult at 27.
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I had similar pains that were diagnosed as chondritis.



How did they determine it?

This stuff seems difficult to figure out, everything is chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, and so on.

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Old age. Shit starts hurtiin.



I turned 26 and started falling apart, can't imagine when I'm 40 or even an official adult at 27.


Just wait, you'll love 52 my friend
8/31/2014 1:59:42 PM EDT
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Went to urgent care, they took x-rays and ran a EKG, doctor lady said they came back fine, but go to the ER right now for blood work and more tests. She said she couldn't see anything wrong, maybe it's pulmonary, blood clot, something that will require lab work & more to determine.

For the past 3 weeks, I've felt pretty constant pressure on my chest & back, it hurts more when I take deep breaths, sit at certain angles or move around. It feels a little better when I sit/stand with perfect posture. I usually feel the pain dead center of my chest, even with my nipples and same spot on my back. After visiting urgent care and having the doctor and I poke at my chest, I actually feel the pain a couple inches left now. I get shortness of breath when I move around a little or walk upstairs, didn't a few weeks ago. I also feel discomfort swallowing, I've been eating a lot of yogurts and soup for the past couple weeks.

I'd rather not go to the ER for all these tests. As a 26 year old child, I'm still on my parents insurance (didn't cost them extra to add me). However, they have absolutely no idea what the copay, deductible, or fucking anything other than they pay like $20 when they visit the doctor and it might have cost a couple hundred when my dad had a cancerous mole cut off his chest last year. I'd like to just schedule an appointment for the testing instead of risking some kind of $10,000 ER bill and I haven't slept since Friday night, so I'd like to sleep.

Probably should have gone in earlier, but it would feel a little better right before I was going to make an appointment and figured it was just muscle pain due to lifting weights and being hunched over pinning mags for several hours per day. Took a couple days off working and haven't lifted weights for 10+ days and it hurts more now than ever. Also should point out that I nearly choked on a piece of apple the day before the chest pain started. The apple chunk didn't fill my throat, but was just odd shaped, it took several minutes before I was finally able to force it down.

My body temperature was 99.2, so that's close enough. They didn't tell me my blood pressure, although they took it.
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You can go get a stress test done but if you have no family history of heart trouble and your cholesterol is within normal limits it's probably
muscular-skeletal pain.....due to lifting weights would be my guess

Had these kinds of pain a lot lifting weights for many years always checked out to be musculoskeletal possibly build up lactic acid

I would go see a cardiac doc to rule that out first.
8/31/2014 2:03:39 PM EDT
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Tietze Syndrome


Have your doctor look into this.
It's been causing me pain every day for years.
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