Posted: 9/15/2013 3:09:57 PM EDT
| Was curious to know if anyone had a list of states that allowed/banned armor piercing projectiles. I'm specifically look at components, but would be curious if there's any difference in loaded ammunition as well. I'm in North Carolina. |
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Interestingly, one city close to me (Wilmington, aka Killmington, aka A Place to Be Some Body) has an ordinance that bans AP ammo - but actually defines AP bullets as:
"Armor-piercing bullet means any bullet which is coated with a nonstick fluoropolymer finish, such as the registered trademark finishes, Teflon, Halon, Halar, Flvon, Soreflon or Algoflon." 
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Interestingly, one city close to me (Wilmington, aka Killmington, aka A Place to Be Some Body) has an ordinance that bans AP ammo - but actually defines AP bullets as: "Armor-piercing bullet means any bullet which is coated with a nonstick fluoropolymer finish, such as the registered trademark finishes, Teflon, Halon, Halar, Flvon, Soreflon or Algoflon." I have some of them. And yes, they're extra evil. |
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Quoted: Interestingly, one city close to me (Wilmington, aka Killmington, aka A Place to Be Some Body) has an ordinance that bans AP ammo - but actually defines AP bullets as: "Armor-piercing bullet means any bullet which is coated with a nonstick fluoropolymer finish, such as the registered trademark finishes, Teflon, Halon, Halar, Flvon, Soreflon or Algoflon." |
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I'm guessing that was passed shortly after everybody went apeshit over Black Talons. Never go full retard Wilmington. Quoted:
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Interestingly, one city close to me (Wilmington, aka Killmington, aka A Place to Be Some Body) has an ordinance that bans AP ammo - but actually defines AP bullets as: "Armor-piercing bullet means any bullet which is coated with a nonstick fluoropolymer finish, such as the registered trademark finishes, Teflon, Halon, Halar, Flvon, Soreflon or Algoflon." Could be post black talon, but most of the teflon scare was a few years prior to that as I recall. |
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Quoted: I'm guessing that was passed shortly after everybody went apeshit over Black Talons. Never go full retard Wilmington. Quoted: Quoted: Interestingly, one city close to me (Wilmington, aka Killmington, aka A Place to Be Some Body) has an ordinance that bans AP ammo - but actually defines AP bullets as: "Armor-piercing bullet means any bullet which is coated with a nonstick fluoropolymer finish, such as the registered trademark finishes, Teflon, Halon, Halar, Flvon, Soreflon or Algoflon." No, the original KTW armor-piercing handgun ammunition had a Teflon coating to reduce barrel wear because of the hardened brass and steel bullets used, the anti-gunners focused on the Teflon coating thinking it was the source of the armor piercing capability. |
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Quoted: Interestingly, one city close to me (Wilmington, aka Killmington, aka A Place to Be Some Body) has an ordinance that bans AP ammo - but actually defines AP bullets as: "Armor-piercing bullet means any bullet which is coated with a nonstick fluoropolymer finish, such as the registered trademark finishes, Teflon, Halon, Halar, Flvon, Soreflon or Algoflon." Huh...like the old KTW AP rounds. The teflon was to protect the bore from the extremely hard metal the projectile was made from. |
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I think they are legal in all states except CA. Quoted:
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I'm not looking where to find components. I'm trying to find out if they're legal to have in my state (NC). I think they are legal in all states except CA. No. Rifle AP is legal. Armor-Piercing Bullets It is unlawful for any person to manufacture, sell, or knowingly possess or transport handgun ammunition designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor. (Penal Code §§ 12320, 12321.) Handgun ammunition means ammunition principally for use in pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed upon the pers on, as defined in subdivision (a) of section 12001, notwithstanding that the ammunition may also be used in some rifles. (Penal Code § 12323(a).) Handgun ammunition designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor means any ammunition, except a shotgun shell or ammunition primarily designe d for use in rifles, that is designed primarily to penetrate a body vest or body shield. (Penal Code § 12323(b).) Body vest or shield means any bullet-resistant material intended to provide ballistic and trauma protection for the wearer or holder. (Penal Code § 12323(c).) Exceptions The prohibition against possessing, manufacturing, etc., armor piercing ammunition does not apply to the following (Penal Code § 12322): • Specified members of the military while on duty and engaged within the scope of their duties. • Any police agency or forensic laboratory. • Persons who hold valid permits issued pursuant to Penal Code section 12305. • The possession of handgun ammunition designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor by a person who found the ammunition, if he or she is not prohibited from possessing firearms or ammunition pursuant to section 12021, 12021.1 or paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of section 12316 of this code or section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code and is transporting the ammunition to a law enforcement agency for disposition according to law. |
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No. Rifle AP is legal. Armor-Piercing Bullets It is unlawful for any person to manufacture, sell, or knowingly possess or transport handgun ammunition designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor. (Penal Code §§ 12320, 12321.) Handgun ammunition means ammunition principally for use in pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed upon the pers on, as defined in subdivision (a) of section 12001, notwithstanding that the ammunition may also be used in some rifles. (Penal Code § 12323(a).) Handgun ammunition designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor means any ammunition, except a shotgun shell or ammunition primarily designe d for use in rifles, that is designed primarily to penetrate a body vest or body shield. (Penal Code § 12323(b).) Body vest or shield means any bullet-resistant material intended to provide ballistic and trauma protection for the wearer or holder. (Penal Code § 12323(c).) Exceptions The prohibition against possessing, manufacturing, etc., armor piercing ammunition does not apply to the following (Penal Code § 12322): • Specified members of the military while on duty and engaged within the scope of their duties. • Any police agency or forensic laboratory. • Persons who hold valid permits issued pursuant to Penal Code section 12305. • The possession of handgun ammunition designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor by a person who found the ammunition, if he or she is not prohibited from possessing firearms or ammunition pursuant to section 12021, 12021.1 or paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of section 12316 of this code or section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code and is transporting the ammunition to a law enforcement agency for disposition according to law. Quoted:
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I'm not looking where to find components. I'm trying to find out if they're legal to have in my state (NC). I think they are legal in all states except CA. No. Rifle AP is legal. Armor-Piercing Bullets It is unlawful for any person to manufacture, sell, or knowingly possess or transport handgun ammunition designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor. (Penal Code §§ 12320, 12321.) Handgun ammunition means ammunition principally for use in pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed upon the pers on, as defined in subdivision (a) of section 12001, notwithstanding that the ammunition may also be used in some rifles. (Penal Code § 12323(a).) Handgun ammunition designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor means any ammunition, except a shotgun shell or ammunition primarily designe d for use in rifles, that is designed primarily to penetrate a body vest or body shield. (Penal Code § 12323(b).) Body vest or shield means any bullet-resistant material intended to provide ballistic and trauma protection for the wearer or holder. (Penal Code § 12323(c).) Exceptions The prohibition against possessing, manufacturing, etc., armor piercing ammunition does not apply to the following (Penal Code § 12322): • Specified members of the military while on duty and engaged within the scope of their duties. • Any police agency or forensic laboratory. • Persons who hold valid permits issued pursuant to Penal Code section 12305. • The possession of handgun ammunition designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor by a person who found the ammunition, if he or she is not prohibited from possessing firearms or ammunition pursuant to section 12021, 12021.1 or paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of section 12316 of this code or section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code and is transporting the ammunition to a law enforcement agency for disposition according to law. I wonder what exception the collectors operate under? http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=5&f=20&t=96291 |