Posted: 2/20/2011 3:44:37 PM EDT
I over heard a guy at walmart telling how a chaplin in the army cannot carry a gun according to the geneva convention?
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Chaplains don't carry firearms in the Army. I don't know if Charlie Chaplin was in the Army though, and somehow I doubt he was mentioned specifically in any conventions. I seem to recall our Chaplain (Ft. Hood) bringing us communion while on an extended FTX having a .45 on his hip. That was a long, long time ago, I could be wrong. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Chaplains don't carry firearms in the Army. I don't know if Charlie Chaplin was in the Army though, and somehow I doubt he was mentioned specifically in any conventions. I seem to recall our Chaplain (Ft. Hood) bringing us communion while on an extended FTX having a .45 on his hip. That was a long, long time ago, I could be wrong. Jump to 2:25... http://www.pbs.org/wnet/embed-player?pid=6CMlcyajxNK6JSLW8LXQGedsWl4Clrlf&share=true BOB ABERNETHY, anchor: Now, a report on an army boot camp for chaplains where they learn to carry out their ministry within the military culture. They’ve already been ordained in their own faith traditions, but the Army recognizes more than a hundred religious groups within its ranks, and it wants its chaplains alert to the potential dangers of evangelizing — and even religious discrimination. Saul Gonzalez reports from Fort Jackson, South Carolina. |
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My brother, who is in the 82nd right now, is deeply religious. He wanted to be a chaplin, but was denied. He became a chaplin's assistant for a while and tasked with driver duties, administrative duties as well as bodyguard duties. He told me the guy he worked for did not carry a weapon. My brother made E7. He got the army to send him to ROTC, got his commission and is now up for O-3, still the army denied him to be a chaplin, but he holds hope. They put him in his original MOS in military intel, and in his old unit working S2. He also spent a stint working Psy-ops and did some spooky shit screwing with peoples minds. I have a deep respect for my little brother. Get this, he went airborne because of his big brother. Me. He's been in about 12 years now. The best officers I ever worked with were always NCO's before.
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Quoted: As long as they remember the distinction between NCO business and officer business - yes. I know officers whe were NCO's, good NCO's, but they forgot where they came from and made horrible officers. Most of tjhe best, level headed officers I've worked with were ROTC graduates, who had worked in the civilian world a few years before going to school. Or had done an enlistment, gotten out and worked a couple years in the civilian world, and then gone to school.My brother, who is in the 82nd right now, is deeply religious. He wanted to be a chaplin, but was denied. He became a chaplin's assistant for a while and tasked with driver duties, administrative duties as well as bodyguard duties. He told me the guy he worked for did not carry a weapon. My brother made E7. He got the army to send him to ROTC, got his commission and is now up for O-3, still the army denied him to be a chaplin, but he holds hope. They put him in his original MOS in military intel, and in his old unit working S2. He also spent a stint working Psy-ops and did some spooky shit screwing with peoples minds. I have a deep respect for my little brother. Get this, he went airborne because of his big brother. Me. He's been in about 12 years now. The best officers I ever worked with were always NCO's before. |
| Chaplain's cannot carry a weapon. I don't know the regulations or international law on it but my brother in law and his brother are both chaplains and they are not allowed to carry a weapon. If they get caught carrying one, they said they would be court martialed and kicked out of the Army. I think if I was in AFG, I'd carry one anyway. If you're a Christian chaplain, you're dead anyway so you might as well take a few of the hadji's with you. |
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As long as they remember the distinction between NCO business and officer business - yes. I know officers whe were NCO's, good NCO's, but they forgot where they came from and made horrible officers. Most of tjhe best, level headed officers I've worked with were ROTC graduates, who had worked in the civilian world a few years before going to school. Or had done an enlistment, gotten out and worked a couple years in the civilian world, and then gone to school.
My brother, who is in the 82nd right now, is deeply religious. He wanted to be a chaplin, but was denied. He became a chaplin's assistant for a while and tasked with driver duties, administrative duties as well as bodyguard duties. He told me the guy he worked for did not carry a weapon. My brother made E7. He got the army to send him to ROTC, got his commission and is now up for O-3, still the army denied him to be a chaplin, but he holds hope. They put him in his original MOS in military intel, and in his old unit working S2. He also spent a stint working Psy-ops and did some spooky shit screwing with peoples minds. I have a deep respect for my little brother. Get this, he went airborne because of his big brother. Me. He's been in about 12 years now. The best officers I ever worked with were always NCO's before. Two of the worst officers I ever had were former NCOs that couldn't let go of "NCO business". They both were up our butts with microscopes constantly, and did not understand the theory of "Give me a task and a suspense date". |
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As long as they remember the distinction between NCO business and officer business - yes. I know officers whe were NCO's, good NCO's, but they forgot where they came from and made horrible officers. Most of tjhe best, level headed officers I've worked with were ROTC graduates, who had worked in the civilian world a few years before going to school. Or had done an enlistment, gotten out and worked a couple years in the civilian world, and then gone to school.
My brother, who is in the 82nd right now, is deeply religious. He wanted to be a chaplin, but was denied. He became a chaplin's assistant for a while and tasked with driver duties, administrative duties as well as bodyguard duties. He told me the guy he worked for did not carry a weapon. My brother made E7. He got the army to send him to ROTC, got his commission and is now up for O-3, still the army denied him to be a chaplin, but he holds hope. They put him in his original MOS in military intel, and in his old unit working S2. He also spent a stint working Psy-ops and did some spooky shit screwing with peoples minds. I have a deep respect for my little brother. Get this, he went airborne because of his big brother. Me. He's been in about 12 years now. The best officers I ever worked with were always NCO's before. My experience was it didn't matter...academy, ROTC, mustang...it was all about the person. Some have what it takes...and some just don't... |
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Chaplin are nocombatants and cannot carry weapons. The current Chief of Chaplins has put out a further directive that they are not to shoot at all, even stateside, nor carry weapons at all. Prior to that they could qualify if they wished.
The chaplins assistant is his bodyguard. That said, downrange he always knew where the extra weapons were sitting. My BN Chaplin and I were discussing this the other day as I was showing him where to buy AR parts kits 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: As long as they remember the distinction between NCO business and officer business - yes. I know officers whe were NCO's, good NCO's, but they forgot where they came from and made horrible officers. Most of tjhe best, level headed officers I've worked with were ROTC graduates, who had worked in the civilian world a few years before going to school. Or had done an enlistment, gotten out and worked a couple years in the civilian world, and then gone to school.My brother, who is in the 82nd right now, is deeply religious. He wanted to be a chaplin, but was denied. He became a chaplin's assistant for a while and tasked with driver duties, administrative duties as well as bodyguard duties. He told me the guy he worked for did not carry a weapon. My brother made E7. He got the army to send him to ROTC, got his commission and is now up for O-3, still the army denied him to be a chaplin, but he holds hope. They put him in his original MOS in military intel, and in his old unit working S2. He also spent a stint working Psy-ops and did some spooky shit screwing with peoples minds. I have a deep respect for my little brother. Get this, he went airborne because of his big brother. Me. He's been in about 12 years now. The best officers I ever worked with were always NCO's before. Two of the worst officers I ever had were former NCOs that couldn't let go of "NCO business". They both were up our butts with microscopes constantly, and did not understand the theory of "Give me a task and a suspense date". This. We had one and you just described him to a tee. Worst part was his wife. She got promoted too and it really went to her head. She would show up to the barracks, walk in the platoon office, and delegate FSG administrative tasks to the first E-5 she seen. I was the first one, once "caught" by her, to tell her it wasn't my job....and refused. The CO gave me a raised eyebrow for that one but I was too proud of an infantryman to roll over like that.  Last I heard he was making cadets miserable at West Point as an instructor there. |
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Chaplin are nocombatants and cannot carry weapons. The current Chief of Chaplins has put out a further directive that they are not to shoot at all, even stateside, nor carry weapons at all. Prior to that they could qualify if they wished. The chaplins assistant is his bodyguard. That said, downrange he always knew where the extra weapons were sitting. My BN Chaplin and I were discussing this the other day as I was showing him where to buy AR parts kits To add to this A chaplain also cannot lead a combat unit while in a combat area no Matter what his rank is If all command staff are dead and the highest ranking member in a combat unit is a corporal it doesn't matter if the chaplain is a general, the corporal will take command |