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6/21/2017 3:36:13 PM EDT
Anyone else deal with them?  

I had my gall bladder removed 2 months ago and about a month ago started having severe muscle and joint pain throughout my body.  Been referred for Metal Allergy testing as it is suspected my immune system is going crazy over the titanium (plus other metal) clips they used during surgery. Very frustrating as a lot of Doctor's don't believe this can happen.  I was diagnosed with Drug Induced Lupus a few years ago from prescription medicine I was prescribed and also deal with several food allergies.  I have a lot of autoimmune issues.   It sucks to feel so bad as in reality I am a very healthy person with an overactive immune system that likes to attack everything.   Fortunately I am close to one of the leading hospitals in the nation for this sort of thing.
6/21/2017 3:51:05 PM EDT
[#1]
Type-1 Diabetes and Rheumatoid Arthritis checking in
6/21/2017 4:21:30 PM EDT
[#2]
Had Graves.   In remission for about 10 years.  

Docs say I'm good although I feel they might be wrong.  Many joint issues.  Was tested two months ago and all showed good for rheumatoid factor and no inflammation.  I'm 43.  

*** doc thinks it's cause I used to lift weight for so long and so heavy.  I.e.  Bench 3x6 405lbs/ leg press over 1200 lbs for reps....  so he might be correct.  

Very lean and in shape now besides some joint pains.
6/21/2017 4:34:56 PM EDT
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If you aren't already, you probably should be eating an AIP diet.
6/21/2017 4:40:23 PM EDT
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Anyone else deal with them?  

I had my gall bladder removed 2 months ago and about a month ago started having severe muscle and joint pain throughout my body.  Been referred for Metal Allergy testing as it is suspected my immune system is going crazy over the titanium (plus other metal) clips they used during surgery. Very frustrating as a lot of Doctor's don't believe this can happen.  I was diagnosed with Drug Induced Lupus a few years ago from prescription medicine I was prescribed and also deal with several food allergies.  I have a lot of autoimmune issues.   It sucks to feel so bad as in reality I am a very healthy person with an overactive immune system that likes to attack everything.   Fortunately I am close to one of the leading hospitals in the nation for this sort of thing.
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I'm taking cyclosporin A (T-cell imm suppressant) and prednisone (antiinflammatory) for what nephrologists have empirically concluded is a kidney problem with an autoimmune component. I think any time you have surgery or injury, you are at risk at exposing antigens in the wrong areas that your body wants to decrease.
Metal reactions can occur, and they may or my not involve an immune component (eg., one of the assistants in a dental office I was in reacted against silver-mercury and had weal-flare reactions where her arm came into contact with amalgam. What stimulated her mast cells could have been silver-mercury responding to IgE, but it could have been any number of other things too).

The immune system has been viewed as an autoimmune system, where autoimmunity is the rule, not an exception. I pretty much believe this. The immune system, at its core, is a self recognition system, not a non-self recognition system.
6/21/2017 4:44:29 PM EDT
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My 3 y/o was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes  just a couple months ago.  Fucking sucks.
6/21/2017 4:46:00 PM EDT
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crohn's

had part of my colon and small intestine removed after a severe infection in intestine and bladder.
6/21/2017 4:48:45 PM EDT
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Psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis checking in.

Auto immune diseases are common in my family.  I've been on Humira for 7+ years and it changed my life for oh so much the better.

I had plaques and bleeding sores from my scalp to under my toe nails and finger nails.    My crotch bled.  My life was horrible.

I've had no appreciable side effects.

Get good treatment.  If you don't like your condition keep looking for a better doctor.

Avoid wasting time and money on goofball cures and homeopathic/crystal therapies.

The better your overall health, the better the results.  I got on Humira, lost 60 pounds, exercised, learned ballroom dancing, and then met my wife at dance lessons.

Up until that point I was simply waiting to grow old enough to die.
6/21/2017 4:51:08 PM EDT
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Lupus?  it's never Lupus
6/21/2017 4:52:17 PM EDT
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In my family it is. 

All sorts of fucked up, checking in. 
6/21/2017 4:58:43 PM EDT
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I do that, I don't have a choice with all the foods I'm allergic to.  The only foods that are AIP diet that I'm not allergic to are Potatoes and Peppers.
6/21/2017 5:14:35 PM EDT
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Psoriatic arthritis without the skin condition here for the last 7 years. Took 3 agonizing years to get a proper diagnosis. Docs finally figured out that a normal rheumatoid factor but sky high TNF might indicate something! Under control now with methotrexate and Humira. Without the biologics, life would be a living hell.

Wife had lung cancer with subsequent surgery and chemo with cisplatin. The heavy metal treatments led to fibro and addisons. Not much to be done with either one except plan ahead and be aware of what is happening. The alternative is to be dead.
6/21/2017 6:16:31 PM EDT
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Are you seeing a rheumatologist or is this from an Osteopath/homeopathic doctor?
6/21/2017 6:51:32 PM EDT
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Psoriatic arthritis without the skin condition here for the last 7 years. Took 3 agonizing years to get a proper diagnosis. Docs finally figured out that a normal rheumatoid factor but sky high TNF might indicate something! Under control now with methotrexate and Humira. Without the biologics, life would be a living hell.

Wife had lung cancer with subsequent surgery and chemo with cisplatin. The heavy metal treatments led to fibro and addisons. Not much to be done with either one except plan ahead and be aware of what is happening. The alternative is to be dead.
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I'm working up to a diagnosis of psoriatic arthritis with out the skin condition. I have been having back pain for a year and half and other pains like knees, ankles, wrist and hands. Doctors found nothing but high CRP level and pitting in a couple finger nails. Currently just on naproxen, only real drug they tried was prednisone which made thing a lot worse.  So now I'm here just dealing with it, hoping not to get booted out of the coast guard. Been doing better in the last month, but this isn't the first time I have gotten better only to get worse soon after.
6/21/2017 7:51:36 PM EDT
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Anyone else deal with them?  

I had my gall bladder removed 2 months ago and about a month ago started having severe muscle and joint pain throughout my body.  Been referred for Metal Allergy testing as it is suspected my immune system is going crazy over the titanium (plus other metal) clips they used during surgery. Very frustrating as a lot of Doctor's don't believe this can happen.  I was diagnosed with Drug Induced Lupus a few years ago from prescription medicine I was prescribed and also deal with several food allergies.  I have a lot of autoimmune issues.   It sucks to feel so bad as in reality I am a very healthy person with an overactive immune system that likes to attack everything.   Fortunately I am close to one of the leading hospitals in the nation for this sort of thing.
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Dood, can you pm me where this hospital is?
I see the same state so I am wondering.  
Hope you feel better.
6/21/2017 8:33:08 PM EDT
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Not sure who you're asking, by my diagnosis was finally made by a rheumatologist. I had been to an osteo surgeon about my fingers. He said he didn't know what it was, but it wasn't osteoarthritis. Mine was in my hands, lower back, and feet. Had also been to a pain specialist, and the shots were fantastic, but only lasted a few days. Had complete bone scans with nothing remarkable. It had settled in my SI joints and they thought that bladder cancer might be an issue. It wasn't, but the testing was sure a lot of fun. Ended up finding out I had BPH and low T after that circus. I believe that it was extremely high Tumor Necrosis Factor (TNF) along with fingernail pitting and toenails having ridges, turning blue, and falling off that finally convinced the rheumatologist of what it was. Went through several months of trying different meds before settling on methotrexate and Enbrel. Had to drop Enbrel and switch to Humira after about 2 years.

I've learned since that immune system disorders can come in many forms and severity. Very thankful that I was able to finally get on a treatment plan that worked and hope others can find relief.
6/21/2017 9:12:29 PM EDT
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My 3 y/o was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes  just a couple months ago.  Fucking sucks.
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My 12 year old was diagnosed at 3. Your journey is just beginning. Find a pediatric Endo. IM if you need anything. 
6/21/2017 9:13:53 PM EDT
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I got lots of bad stuff going on inside me.  Hashimotos for one.  What is your ANA titration level.  They confirmed something was REALLY wrong with me when they got these results. The real problem is finding out exactly what it is that is wrong.....

It's really cutting edge medicine.  I can hardly understand what they're talking about after 3 sentences but ANA's (anti nuclear antigens) are responsible for just about every process that occurs inside the body. Binding protein receptor sites, cell mimickry, real crazy stuff....
6/21/2017 9:25:33 PM EDT
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The former and I also have seen my allergy doctor.
6/21/2017 9:28:12 PM EDT
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Dood, can you pm me where this hospital is?
I see the same state so I am wondering.  
Hope you feel better.  
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Thanks, sent you a PM.
6/21/2017 9:32:24 PM EDT
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alopecia_areata

Caused by some women in my life several times over the past 14 years.  Totally serious, stress from women.  Back to normal now and no fucking desire to deal with any drama ever again!  
6/21/2017 10:01:34 PM EDT
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I've lost the hair on the outside of my legs knee down to the ankle from the inflammation.
6/21/2017 11:00:05 PM EDT
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My 12 year old was diagnosed at 3. Your journey is just beginning. Find a pediatric Endo. IM if you need anything. 
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Thanks! We have one and the Cooks Children's network. The more we learn the more confident and scared we get.
6/21/2017 11:16:04 PM EDT
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crohn's

had part of my colon and small intestine removed after a severe infection in intestine and bladder.
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Same, 16 inches of colon removed and a fistula between the colon and bladder  Going on 17 fucking years... 
6/21/2017 11:43:11 PM EDT
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Yep 25 years of RA checking in. Runs in the family.
6/21/2017 11:49:59 PM EDT
[#25]
RA here.  I have an infusion every 6 months for it and it does help.  Not autoimmune related, but I wish they could do something for the neuropathy in my feet, it is unbearable most of the time.  Lyrica and Savella barely take the edge off.  Not diabetic.
6/21/2017 11:52:48 PM EDT
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Also a member of TeamAutoImmune, multiple divisions!  
6/21/2017 11:59:44 PM EDT
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RA and Reynaud's here. I mostly just soldier through the pain, but the loss of circulation in my extremities in even mild weather can be a royal pain in the ass. Coworkers just cannot fathom that I can't just put on a sweater and be fine when they crank the AC to 60.
6/22/2017 2:04:31 AM EDT
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RA and Reynaud's here. I mostly just soldier through the pain, but the loss of circulation in my extremities in even mild weather can be a royal pain in the ass. Coworkers just cannot fathom that I can't just put on a sweater and be fine when they crank the AC to 60.
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Raynaud's here as well.  It's a gigantic pain in the ass.  I have to wear my -70f rated insulated boots in 40f weather if I'll be outside for a while, and my feet still freeze.  Same goes for winter gloves.  Doesn't help that I've got some kind of autoimmune thing that is causing severe nerve damage as well.

Hematology ruled out amyloidosis and autoimmune hepatitis the other week at least.  Waiting on a rheumatology consult now.  On top of a brain tumor, wrecked endocrine system, totalled back, type 1.5 'betus, etc. 
6/22/2017 2:08:23 AM EDT
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crohn's

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Same, although I'm lucky I haven't had any major resections yet - a flare will put me down for 3 weeks, and I have to have a pick line put in. We will see what the future brings
6/22/2017 2:08:42 AM EDT
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Type 1.5 diabetes (late-onset autoimmune, misdiagnosed as Type 2 for the last 20 years).  Diagnosed last month with Stage 3 kidney disease. Also just learned I have IgA nephropathy so I'm working with a naturopath to find out what's triggering it.

WTT ammo and mags for a kidney
6/22/2017 2:51:21 AM EDT
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Same, 16 inches of colon removed and a fistula between the colon and bladder  Going on 17 fucking years... 
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crohn's

had part of my colon and small intestine removed after a severe infection in intestine and bladder.
Same, 16 inches of colon removed and a fistula between the colon and bladder  Going on 17 fucking years... 
Crohn's here, too. Except ALL of my colon was removed, as well as the rectum. And the anus was permanently stitched shut. Now I empty poop from a bag five times a day.

Also ankylosing spondylitis.
6/22/2017 2:56:12 AM EDT
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Big ol' pile of them. Getting really tired of doctors saying "well it's really rare" and "that's interesting".
6/22/2017 5:38:15 AM EDT
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eosinophilic esophagitis here
6/22/2017 5:45:49 AM EDT
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Got JRA when I was like 18 months old. So ya I would say I have a vague idea about it
6/24/2017 4:52:29 PM EDT
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Big ol' pile of them. Getting really tired of doctors saying "well it's really rare" and "that's interesting".
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I understand that!  Very ill today.  So ill that we are on a 6 hour drive home a day early and then I'll go to the ER.
6/24/2017 5:07:52 PM EDT
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Big ol' pile of them. Getting really tired of doctors saying "well it's really rare" and "that's interesting".
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Wait until you wake up early during surgery and find yourself strapped down and a doctor with his hands inside your guts  not a pleasant experience.  Doctor was surprised I remembered it. 
6/24/2017 5:37:38 PM EDT
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I just looked. No eggs? Ive been trying the keto thing so I eat like 5 eggs a day.
6/24/2017 5:55:04 PM EDT
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Ehlers Danlos here
6/24/2017 6:18:35 PM EDT
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15 years ago, my wife slowly developed symptoms of joint pain, joint swelling, general fatigue, headaches, and so forth. This went on for a year or so. Rather than go to a "specialist" and get slapped with treatments for the rest of a shortened life, she played with elimination of various dietary items, one at a time, for at least 1 week each.

Lo and behold, after two weeks without whey/dairy products, she was pretty much pain-free. Within a month all symptoms were gone. What would have been classified as one of these "special" disorders or rheumatoid arthritis was simply development of an allergy to anything that results from cow's milk (goat products are fine). She's sensitive enough that a single accidental ingestion of whey/milk/cheese produces a reaction within 30 min.

Now, what caused the onset is up in the air, but at least the treatment is very straightforward - dietary adjustment. With all of the weirdness in the American diet and drug intakes in general, I think it's very possible that a lot of this happens to people during times of peak physical and mental stress - including post-op intervals.

You guys that are dealing with pseudo-arthritic symptoms, maybe it would be worth your while to run 1-2 week experiments involving parts of your diet.
6/24/2017 6:20:32 PM EDT
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Lots of allergies since 2 years old.   Some food, some environmental.  Eczema and asthma.


Looking forward to that arthritis.  
6/24/2017 6:26:10 PM EDT
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Lots of allergies since 2 years old.   Some food, some environmental.  Eczema and asthma.


Looking forward to that arthritis.  
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Shit I doubt it would even slow your ass down at cola warrior. I've had this nonsense for 30 years and it hasn't stopped me from anything...well I mean besides anything resembling a fast run time but that's I'm sure.
6/25/2017 1:55:38 AM EDT
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This!
6/25/2017 1:59:45 AM EDT
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Shit I doubt it would even slow your ass down at cola warrior. I've had this nonsense for 30 years and it hasn't stopped me from anything...well I mean besides anything resembling a fast run time but that's I'm sure.
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I can't blame the utter chug fail on physical infirmities.   I've never done a clean chug.  

eta: Sorry if I don't recognize your username.   I did west 2 and 3 and cwt 1 and 2 but I'm lucky to link names to faces.  
6/25/2017 2:18:12 AM EDT
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I can't blame the utter chug fail on physical infirmities.   I've never done a clean chug.  

eta: Sorry if I don't recognize your username.   I did west 2 and 3 and cwt 1 and 2 but I'm lucky to link names to faces.  
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Im bad with user name/ faces. Side by side at west 2, brought my sub compact attack dog at west 3, not sure I wore a shirt at texas this year.
6/25/2017 2:25:03 AM EDT
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Look into mercury toxicity and the Andy Cutler protocol.

Mercury is a silent epidemic in modern society and is the root cause of many of these "mystery" diseases that are so common now.
6/25/2017 3:26:03 AM EDT
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What a fucking night.....1 A.M. and just got home.  They had to go through the suicide protocol because I told the little nurse practioner that was acting as the E.R. Dr. to go screw himself.  He deserved it, my wife was livid.  He basically told me that I was wasting my time coming to the E.R. and I shouldn't have come there.  That was from the get go and it went downhill from there.  My wife will be filing a complaint with the Administrator of the hospital.  My symptoms are worsening and I'm in a lot of pain.....where in the hell else am I supposed to go on a Saturday night?  

I'm so damn frustrated right now.
6/25/2017 3:56:28 AM EDT
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Wait until you wake up early during surgery and find yourself strapped down and a doctor with his hands inside your guts  not a pleasant experience.  Doctor was surprised I remembered it. 
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Big ol' pile of them. Getting really tired of doctors saying "well it's really rare" and "that's interesting".
Wait until you wake up early during surgery and find yourself strapped down and a doctor with his hands inside your guts  not a pleasant experience.  Doctor was surprised I remembered it. 
I woke up during a foot surgery. Asked the doc how it was going. I remember he said, "fine," and gave the anesthesiologist the evil eye. Next thing I know, I was waking up after it was done.
6/25/2017 4:04:19 AM EDT
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What a fucking night.....1 A.M. and just got home.  They had to go through the suicide protocol because I told the little nurse practioner that was acting as the E.R. Dr. to go screw himself.  He deserved it, my wife was livid.  He basically told me that I was wasting my time coming to the E.R. and I shouldn't have come there.  That was from the get go and it went downhill from there.  My wife will be filing a complaint with the Administrator of the hospital.  My symptoms are worsening and I'm in a lot of pain.....where in the hell else am I supposed to go on a Saturday night?  

I'm so damn frustrated right now.
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Unfortunately, management of a chronic condition in an emergent acute care setting is damned near impossible. Add to that the number of drug seekers they see on a daily basis (not saying you're one), and you get care providers who can get a bit rude with people who claim chronic conditions when showing up for pain management. Doesn't make the way you were treated right. Just offering a bit of background as to why you might have been treated like that.
6/25/2017 8:54:07 AM EDT
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Unfortunately, management of a chronic condition in an emergent acute care setting is damned near impossible. Add to that the number of drug seekers they see on a daily basis (not saying you're one), and you get care providers who can get a bit rude with people who claim chronic conditions when showing up for pain management. Doesn't make the way you were treated right. Just offering a bit of background as to why you might have been treated like that.
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I understand, and I lived and learned.  It was most definitely a waste of time/money.  The funny thing is when I spoke to the hospital shrink and she found out that I refused their offer of pain meds and that I was legitimately there seeking help......the tune changed.   My chronic condition is due to a surgery at that hospital, yet no one wants to step up and do the right thing.
6/28/2017 3:26:37 PM EDT
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The surgeon agreed today to remove the metal clips used for my gallbladder surgery.  He says he doesn't think it will help, but agreed to do it.  I am certain it will help and have some emotional relief today which helps deal with all the pain I'm in.  I gave him a stack of medical literature validating Metal Hypersensitivity and Auto-immune reactions.
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