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8/10/2004 11:28:19 PM EDT
OK so Im sure we all heard of these "Super Bugs" that have the ability to render antibiotics useless because of 'overusage'... They are actually building immunity (if thats the word Im looking for).

So what is the deal with all this ANTI-BACTERIAL soap? Wouldnt all the germs and bacteria that we are killing with these soaps soon build up immunity to them as well??

The shit I think of late at night..... UGH.
8/10/2004 11:32:27 PM EDT
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So what is the deal with all this ANTI-BACTERIAL soap? Wouldnt all the germs and bacteria that we are killing with these soaps soon build up immunity to them as well??.

Yes. (and it's called "resistance" not immunity).

That's why using "anti-bacterial" soap for general purpose is very stupid.

Not to mention that the miniscule amount of time that the bugs are actually in contact with the bacteriostatic agent does nothing except select out the weakest bugs and allows those that are more resistant to the agent to take over.

Exactly the same case of over-using antibiotics as well as not finishing the entire prescription - it selects for those who are resistant.

Basically, "anti-bacterial" soap is simply a marketing gimmick that in the long run, if over used MAY lead to resistant bugs.

8/10/2004 11:35:11 PM EDT
[#2]
Bacteria is a lie put out by the Illuminati to make you drink your Prozac.
8/10/2004 11:36:45 PM EDT
[#3]
RESISTANT!!! THAT was the word I was looking for! CRAP IM TIRED! Thanks.

So basically its a marketing ploy that in the long run will damage rather than help. Stick to good ol' Dial or Ivory.
8/10/2004 11:37:36 PM EDT
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Bacteria is a lie put out by the Illuminati to make you drink your Prozac.



IM SUPPOSED TO DRINK IT???

Damn, all this time Ive been shoving it up my ass.
8/10/2004 11:37:59 PM EDT
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RESISTANT!!! THAT was the word I was looking for! CRAP IM TIRED! Thanks.

So basically its a marketing ploy that in the long run will damage rather than help. Stick to good ol' Dial or Ivory.

Yep. You got it.

8/11/2004 12:06:54 AM EDT
[#6]
Uh..no, Dial is extremely antibacterial.

www.dialcorp.com/index.cfm?page_id=61
8/11/2004 12:09:35 AM EDT
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Uh..no, Dial is extremely antibacterial.

www.dialcorp.com/index.cfm?page_id=61



Irish Spring then?
8/11/2004 12:10:28 AM EDT
[#8]
I just use whatere soap I buy cheap at the time.  If I want anti-bacterial I'll use some rubbing alcohol
8/11/2004 12:13:36 AM EDT
[#9]
If you want to be REALLY antibacterial, then use both fire AND alcohol. Test it on the kids first tho, to make sure it's safe.
8/11/2004 12:19:25 AM EDT
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If you want to be REALLY antibacterial, then use both fire AND alcohol. Test it on the kids first tho, to make sure it's safe.



8/11/2004 12:31:55 AM EDT
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OK so Im sure we all heard of these "Super Bugs" that have the ability to render antibiotics useless because of 'overusage'... They are actually building immunity (if thats the word Im looking for).

So what is the deal with all this ANTI-BACTERIAL soap? Wouldnt all the germs and bacteria that we are killing with these soaps soon build up immunity to them as well??

The shit I think of late at night..... UGH.



yes..exactly...using these gels,soaps, or whatever media you choose, is the same as using antibiotics.
Bacteria builds resistance to these antibacterial agents and are able to evolve into nasty little bugs in some cases. It is a point to understand this is natural selection at its finest.Bacteria have lived alot longer than we have and have survived more evil foes than homo-sapiens and their wits.But not all bacteria are bad and using anti-biotics sometimes may hurt benificial bacteria as well as destroy your mitochondria at a cellular level.
8/11/2004 12:44:01 AM EDT
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We never use anti-bacterial soap. I know when I have kids, I'll let them play outside and get dirty. It's good for their immune system. Exposing them to as germs to a safe extent is very good. I know when I first came to the U.S. from the dirty ole' Philippine Islands, I never really got sick. Now my immune system has weakened because it's substantially more clean in the U.S.

Anti-bacterial soap also kills the normal flora which actually helps kill the bad bacteria.
Another thing, if you want to really get the bacteria off your hands, you have to scrub your hands together long enough to flush them. People think the anti-bacterial soap will take care of everything, which is wrong. That's why doctors do a whole lot of scrubbing before they perform surgery. Even though they use anti-microbial agents, scrubbing is really what gets rid of the bacteria.
8/11/2004 12:53:21 AM EDT
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Simply scrubbing your hands under running water for 20 seconds usually does the trick for most of the germs.

And the whole "Germs are evolving into nasty bugs because of anti-bacterial soap" is bs.
Germs live and die so fast that if that was happening, then we would have seen it by now.
8/11/2004 1:28:46 AM EDT
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Simply scrubbing your hands under running water for 20 seconds usually does the trick for most of the germs.

And the whole "Germs are evolving into nasty bugs because of anti-bacterial soap" is bs.
Germs live and die so fast that if that was happening, then we would have seen it by now.




First Define germ?
I beg to differ! You may want to take a freshman level Biology class!