Why dont they just name the apps?

Seems like a red herring.

Trying to create some kind of foreign nexus. Push the anti-encryption agenda.

Makes all the sense in the world, right?

It's going on six weeks since July 13th, and still no photos of the murder weapon have been released.

Makes me wonder exactly what that rifle was, and what mods it had.

No photos of the rifle because you could see his rifle was damaged by the first shot of return fire making people wonder why they shot him a second time, in the head.

Nothing to see here, peasants.

Exactly. He was probably just using snapchat (or literally any app hosted on Azure.)

But he had no social media presence, so they say. That alone is one of the biggest lies I think has been told in this cover up.

Even if the rifle was damaged on the buffer tube, it was still a lethal weapon for at least 1 more shot.

A 20 year old kid.

Who was a computer whiz.

With an newish Iphone.

Had ZERO social media presence...

Was a loner with no friends and who got made fun of in school...

And somehow he had enough contacts to need 3 encrypted messaging apps to talk to them?

The apps don't matter so much - WHO were the contacts on the other end?  How many of them were there?

He didn't even play videos games.  Why the need for 3 different messengers?

I agree the foreign apps are a nothingburger, but I don't think the intent is clicks and ad revenue. I think they're trying to paint this as some sort of foreign assassination attempt to cover for the fact that some US agencies deliberately set Trump up to be killed. There's no other logical explanation at this point. It's why they put the Iran assassination plot out into the public sphere when it had nothing to do with Crooks.

Urgent manhunt for Arizona man who threatened to shoot Trump during visit to the border TODAY




Arizona authorities have launched an urgent manhunt for a suspect who allegedly threatened to shoot former President Donald Trump during a trip to the border.

Ronald Lee Syrvud, 66, is wanted in connection with an alleged assassination plot that was said to have been planned for Trump's visit to Cochise County, AZ on Thursday.

It comes six weeks after an assassination attempt on Trump's life saw a bullet graze the former president's ear during a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Police said Syrvud has several other warrants out for his arrest on separate charges, including for a DUI, failure to appear in court, failure to register as a sex offender, and felony hit and run.  



The planned attempt on Trump's life was allegedly intended for his trip to the border to Sierra Vista, in a spot where his campaign has already travelled to.

Trump's running mate JD Vance toured Sierra Vista three weeks ago.

Arizona officials said they believe Syrvud is at large in the border region, and are urgently attempting to locate him ahead of Trump's visit.

Syrvud is described as six-feet-tall, 220 pounds, and wearing glasses.

Ahead of his trip to the area, Trump said on Truth Social that he would be addressing 'the plague of migrant crime that so-called Border Czar, comrade Kamala Harris has unleashed on America.'

DailyMail.com has contacted the Trump campaign for comment, and it is not immediately clear if the campaign plans to cancel or postpone the trip to the border.  


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The classmate said he was a computer genius so he probably had his set up so he couldn't be tracked.

Or they recruited and conversed with him over social media so it had to 'go away'.

I'm going with the former because I know they would NEEVVVEERRR do the later.

Let me guess: Registered Republican? With no media presence? And known to authorities?

Yeah.

They are holding back a lot of basic information.

Yeah.  ALL OF IT.

Mighty fishy

THIS!!!  They were IMO, *DEFINITELY* involved in destroying any evidence afterwards, so that there will never be any conclusive determination.

What a shock, huh? Geez.

More info about the offshore accounts linked to the shooter

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/secret-service-agents-finally-placed-leave-after-trump-assassination-attempt


Three weeks ago, Acting Secret Service Director Ronald Rowe angrily pushed back on senators’ calls to immediately fire or discipline key agents directly responsible for the security failures that led to the assassination attempt against former President Trump at last month’s campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Since that time, Secret Service leaders have placed several members of the Pittsburgh Field Office on administrative leave, according to three sources in the Secret Service community.

(Administrative leave occurs when a federal employee temporarily leaves their position and work duties – either because of a misconduct investigation or medical or mental health issue. These employees usually still receive pay and benefits, but those decisions are left to the discretion of agency leadership.)

While these members of the Pittsburgh Field Office were placed on leave, a different set of agents, several assigned to Trump’s permanent protective detail, are still on the job providing Trump protection, the sources say. They remain operational even though they too were deeply involved in devising the Butler rally’s security plan.

The differing treatment of the two teams is spurring internal dissension and speculation that the Pittsburgh office could bear the brunt of the serious security failures that day, even though there’s plenty of blame to go around.

During a joint Senate committee meeting July 30, Rowe said he couldn’t understand or defend why the roof where shooter Thomas Crooks fired from wasn’t better secured. He said the Secret Service is investigating whether any employees broke the rules or didn’t follow established protocol to protect obvious vulnerabilities. If so, he said they would be held accountable through the agency’s disciplinary process and face punishment, including termination.

Yet, Rowe and other senior officials back in Washington headquarters should share the blame, these sources argue. The agency’s top brass were almost certainly involved in declining at least some of the security assets requested for the Butler rally despite a heightened threat level brought on by a specific Iranian assassination plot against Trump.

Former Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle resigned in late July amid bipartisan outrage over her lack of transparency about the rally security failures. But critics in Congress and the Secret Service community are calling for more accountability in the wake of the worst security failure since President Ronald Reagan was shot in 1981.

Dan Bongino, a popular conservative personality who spent 11 years in the Secret Service, has blasted his former agency’s “apocalyptic security failure” and called for a full house-cleaning of the upper leadership ranks in its Washington headquarters. Rowe, he said, is just as bad, if not worse than Cheatle because he was her hand-picked deputy and played a key role in her management decisions.

“My Secret Service colleagues I worked with, where nothing like this ever happened at our advances, are horrified at Ron Rowe, ashamed at what this agency has become,” he said in on his podcast the day after Rowe testified before the Senate. “… I’m not talking about a small cadre of them. I’m talking about a big group of former agents [who] are on fire about what happened here – they are horrified about what’s going on with this agency.”

Other current Secret Service agents, including one who requested anonymity for fear of reprisal, pinned the failures at Butler directly on Rowe and other top leaders alleged ties because their decisions leading up to the July 13 rally set the rank-and-file agents up for failure.

“Leadership’s mismanagement of technology and personnel are what led to the failures in Butler, but they are not the ones being held accountable,” a source in the Secret Service community told RealClearPolitics.

The FBI arrested Asif Merchant, a Pakistani man with to Iran, one day before the Butler rally. Merchant was charged with a plot to carry out political assassinations on U.S. soil, including against Trump.

The arrest comes two years after U.S. officials disrupted another Iranian scheme aimed at former Trump National Security Adviser John Bolton. Trump and his national security team have faced threats from Iran since Trump ordered the killing of Iranian Gen. Qasam Soleimani in early January 2020.

Mid-level Secret Service managers based in D.C. routinely reduce the level of security assets as a way to cut costs. There’s even greater pressure to reject asset requests during presidential campaign years when agency resources are especially stretched thin because there are multiple candidates to protect.

Because of the heightened Iranian threat against Trump, those decision wouldn’t just be made by mid-level Secret Service managers but likely would involve top agency officials too, the sources argued. In the case of the Butler rally, it was the first time agency leaders approved counter snipers for a Trump reelection event, but they still only allotted two counter sniper teams rather than the four teams requested, multiple sources have told RCP.

Because of the sniper shortage, the Secret Service was forced to ask local law enforcement to man the rooftop where 20-year-old would-be assassin Thomas Crooks fired off his shots at Trump and the crowd, killing firefighter Corey Comperatore, who was attending the rally with his family.

Exactly why that rooftop was not adequately covered remains a key question in the ongoing investigation with the Secret Service and local law enforcement continuing to trade accusations over that glaring failure.

Other whistleblowers have come forward to complain that Secret Service leaders did not allocate a counter-surveillance unit, roaming agents who work to find and intercept suspicious people or fortify vulnerable areas during a rally. If they had, these whistleblowers argue, those CSU teams would have intercepted and questioned Crooks as soon as he pulled out a range finder and held it up to the crowd.

Sen. Josh Hawley in early August sent a letter to Rowe saying he had received detailed information personally laming him for directing “significant cuts” to the Countersurveillance Division, a department that performs threat assessment evaluations of events sites before the events occur and did not perform its typical evaluation of the Butler site and was not present that day. An unnamed whistleblower further alleged that Rowe directed a 20% reduction in the CSD’s manpower, an assertion that, if proven, would undercut Rowe’s repeated denials that he wasn’t involved in any decisions rejecting requests for added security for Trump over the last two years.

In an all-hands conference call last week, Rowe committed to a complete “paradigm” overhaul at the agency and said he is making headway in pressing for major budget increases. He also pledged to jettison the long-term approach of stretching resources too thin – what is known within the agency as “doing more with less” – and to improve the Secret Service’s technological capability to adapt to “constantly evolving” threats.

“We can no longer operate with that mindset,” Rowe told the agents during his address to every employee. “We can no longer wear our people down.”

Rowe argued that the near-assassination of Trump served as a wake-up call to the agency – “an opportunity to examine our own paradigm and examine our own methodologies, to challenge assumptions, to look at the new dynamic threat environment we’re operating in, look at the demand in which we’re placing on our people.”

Trump’s security detail, a 60-member team dedicated to protecting the former president, has faced the toughest schedules and heaviest workloads over the last year of any Secret Service division or detail. The agents have endured long hours, often working seven days a week in a row before taking time off. The Trump detail also has taken on more of the responsibility for creating and executing the security plans for rallies, these sources said, a job that was always shared with the local field office closest to each rally. But over the last year, as Trump has faced heightened threats, his detail has taken on more and more responsibility for security planning and decisions at rallies, these sources say.

For instance, the site agent, the individual charged with devising most of the security plan for the event, was a member of the Trump detail for the Butler rally. But the lead agent, who typically oversees security at the entire sequence of events – from the airport arrival to the rally to the hotel stay to airport departure – was a member of the Pittsburgh Field Office. During final preparations for a rally, the site agent and lead agent join forces in conducting walk-throughs of the security plans with supervisors from each of their teams.

Because members of the Pittsburgh Field Office shared the responsibility with the individuals from the Trump detail, sources are questioning why no one from the Trump detail has been put on administrative leave while several of their Pittsburgh counterparts have been. Even the innermost ring of security – those agents on the Trump detail who quickly used their bodies as human shields to protect Trump – are still on the job despite the obvious trauma of going through such a stressful event.

Secret Service spokesman Anthony Guglielmi didn’t respond to questions from RealClearPolitics about that disparity. He also didn’t answer several other detailed questions about the agency’s administrative leave and disciplinary policies.

“The U.S. Secret Service is committed to investigating the decisions and actions of personnel related to the event in Butler, Pennsylvania and the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump,” Guglielmi said in a statement. “The U.S. Secret Service’s mission assurance review is progressing, and we are examining the processes, procedures and factors that led to this operational failure.”

“The U.S. Secret Service holds our personnel to the highest professional standards, and any identified and substantiated violations of policy will be investigated by the Office of Professional Responsibility for potential disciplinary action,” he added. “Given this is a personnel matter, we are not in a position to comment further.”

During Rowe’s July 30 Senate testimony, the acting director and Hawley got into a shouting match over the agency’s failure to fire anyone, including those responsible for the failure to surveil the rooftop where Crooks opened fire.

“You’re asking me, Senator, to completely make a rush to judgement about somebody failing. I acknowledge this was a failure,” Rowe said during the questioning.

“Is it not prima facie that somebody has failed? The former president was shot,” Hawley shot back.

Rowe responded that he had “lost sleep” over the security failures that day and assured Hawley that he would hold people accountable “with integrity” and not “rush to judgement.”

“Then fire somebody to hold them accountable,” Hawley demanded.

Rowe countered that he needed to allow the FBI investigation to continue to gather all the facts and determine culpability and argued that there were likely several people and factors to blame for the failures, not just one scapegoat.

In the wake of the assassination attempt, whistleblowers have come forward to share with RCP what they describe as a corrosive culture of fear, favoritism, uneven disciplinary action, and retribution they say has plagued the agency for years, harming its core protective mission. The uneven discipline and lowering of hiring standards because of a staffing shortage has led to several embarrassing security breaches and misconduct scandals in recent years, sowing distrust and resentment.

Rowe has pledged to hold those responsible for the security failures in Butler accountable, but others argue his close friendship with Tim Burke, who heads the Pittsburgh Field Office, could complicate that task.

Just last year, a former member of that Pittsburgh office won a complaint he filed with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, a federal agency that enforces workplace discrimination laws, according to two sources in the Secret Service community.

The special agent complained to Burke that an office leader was sexually harassing another employee, but Burke said he didn’t believe the accusations and advised the employee to drop the matter. After the agent insisted his charges were accurate and filed formal complaints within the Secret Service, he said Burke, with the blessing of top Secret Service leaders, unfairly retaliated against him for the disclosure, putting him on administrative leave and downgrading his salary from a GS14 level carrying a salary of $104,604-$135,987, to a GS13 level, which ranges between $88,520 and $115,079. Such disciplinary action would require approval from top agency leaders, and Rowe likely knew about it even if he didn’t sign off specifically on the demotion.

Yet, just months after filing the EEOC complaint, the agent provided evidence of his sexual harassment claim and won his case, quickly regaining his GS14 status, according to three sources in the Secret Service community. He also was allowed to relocate away from the Pittsburgh Field Office. It’s unclear if Burke, who is close friends with Rowe and is generally liked by top Secret Service leaders, faced any disciplinary action for failing to take the charges seriously.

In another alarming incident that could have implications for the Iranian plot against Trump, two men of Pakistani heritage were arrested and charged with posing as Department of Homeland Security officers in Washington and duping four Secret Service agents charged with protecting President Biden and his family. According to federal prosecutors, the imposters provided the Secret Service agents with tens of thousands of gifts, including rent-free apartments, in a two-year scheme that began in February 2020 while Trump was still in office,.

At one point after Biden took office, one of the Pakistani men, Arian Taherzadeh, offered to buy a $2,000 assault rifle for an agent assigned to first lady Jill Biden’s protective detail, according to the legal filings. One of the men, Haider Ali, told witnesses he had connections to intelligence agencies in Pakistan, and he also had several visas issued by Pakistan and Iran, prosecutors said.

“Taherzadeh and Ali have attempted to use their false and fraudulent affiliation with DHS to ingratiate themselves with members of federal law enforcement and the defense community,” David Elias, an FBI agent, wrote in the affidavit.

Yet, Elias did not say why the men orchestrated the elaborate plan to impersonate DHS agents and cozy up to members of the presidential protective Secret Service detail. Prosecutors said they used their false identities to obtain security footage of the apartment building, as well as a list of the building’s residents and contact information.

The Secret Service agents implicated in the scheme were placed on administrative leave, but it’s unclear what disciplinary action, if any, was taken against them.

Didn't hear any more details about these "accounts" just more jibber-jabber.

\uD83D\uDEA8\uD83D\uDEA8BREAKING: Whistleblower tells @HawleyMO Secret Service told agents working the Butler rally NOT to request additional manpower resources for the rally & warned any such requests would be DENIED.

This CONTRADICTS  Rowe testimony, who said no resources were ever denied. pic.twitter.com/ju4cpgqgqn

— Abigail Jackson \uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDF8 (@abigailmarone) August 23, 2024

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Bongino rightly thinks that this flaccid incel couldn't have done this on his own.  He also has made repeated reference to the foreign contacts via encrypted messenger.

A few weeks ago our beloved government released that the Iranians wanted to take Trump out for smoking Solemani.  They are very active in Germany.

I also note that the Obama administration was VERY Persian-centric, and that the Biden regime is chick full of those fuckers.  These are the same people that tried to take Trump out in any numbers of ways, starting with painting him as a Russian asset.

You may draw any lines you wish between these dots.

Are you sure you're phrasing that correctly.  Having an account on a foreign-based platform is 87000% different than having foreign contacts.

Just the same as when you buy an iphone and create an icloud account, that does not magically mean you have contacts in california.

Try it yourself and see.  Go install the threema app, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.threema.app.  See if you suddenly know anybody in Switzerland.

Hell, skype, which has been around for close to 20 years now and a decent portion of this board has had accounts or family members with account, they are based in Luxembourg.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skype.raider

Wrong thread

it's Poso and I don't know why he's yelling.

BREAKING: PRESIDENT TRUMP ANNOUNCES HE WILL ESTABLISH A PRESIDENTIAL COMMISSION ON ASSASSINATIONS TO BE HEADED BY ROBERT F KENNEDY WITH FULL POWER TO DECLASSIFY ALL DOCUMNENTS RELATED TO JFK, RFK, AND J13

— Jack Poso \uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDF8 (@JackPosobiec) August 23, 2024

Seems their #1 skill, is to structure everything for deniability, so they dont have to tell the truth.

Incredible leaked video from inside the deep state war room after the Trump-Kennedy announcement. Wow.pic.twitter.com/UPhdGk85C8

Benny Johnson  (@bennyjohnson) August 24, 2024

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Well, quite obviously, as you may know, part of the problem is WE DON'T KNOW.  They have not released the actual information.  

Again, I question why a socially inept single 20 year old with limited funds working at a healthcare facility has a burner phone to begin with.  There is zero logical reason for it, which makes any accusation a reasonable one to have at this point.  All we have is the FBI blanket statement to go on.

Which, given their long and distinguished history, particularly with the subject of this thread, should give any reasonable person pause to wonder how much more there is to this.  

They've contributed more resources towards a garage door pull rope, Trad Catholics, and retrieving Ashley Biden's diary than they ever will on an assassination attempt on Trump. Most were probably disappointed Crooks wasn't successful.

Apparently the feds had the shooter's body torched within 10 days of the attempt.

Hmmm

Remember when we learned the parents of Trump’s shooter reported their son missing on J13?

He was a full grown adult that was gone for a few hours on a weekend afternoon, so why report him missing?

The only logical reason is that they knew something about his plans

Maybe this… pic.twitter.com/Ja1SergITm

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) August 26, 2024

Is it even known for certain if crooks lived with his parents?

Dan Bongino, a former Secret Service Agent, will be one of three to testify at the forum, along with Erik Prince, a former Navy SEAL officer, and Ben Shaffer, a Washington regional SWAT operator. Bongino will record the special edition of his podcast from The Heritage Foundation, also the site for the forum.

Reps. Cory Mills (R-FL) and Eli Crane (R-AZ). Mills and Crane will be joined by Reps. Andy Biggs (R-AZ), Chip Roy (R-TX), and Matt Gaetz (R-FL) in the independent investigation.

Screw-ups, shortcomings & failures of the USSS…




The U.S. Secret Service Before, During, and After the Assassination Attempt of President Trump

The U.S. Secret Service and other agencies warrant scrutiny over their actions and inactions surrounding the horrific events that took place on July 13, 2024. Tune in to learn more from former Rep. Jason Chaffetz, Susan Crabtree, Tristan Leavitt, and Lora Ries.

Yeah, strange that they called.

I hope he and others, including Trump, will stop repeating the 400 yards super special SS counter sniper shot, that evidence suggests never happened.

The 16 second response time, from first shot by Crooks, by the counter sniper from 150-175 ish yards, whatever it was from the South Barn, was not spectacular. And Is suspicious in itself.

Ben Shaffer, a SWAT counter sniper protecting Donald Trump during the J13 assassination attempt, says the Secret Service declined radios from local law enforcement and didn’t station anyone in the communication center.

Instead, they asked local law enforcement to relay… pic.twitter.com/uZQh7TSJjC

KanekoaTheGreat  (@KanekoaTheGreat) August 26, 2024

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-pounds-ukraine-with-missiles-drones-second-day-row-kyiv-says-2024-08-27/

In a recent interview with Dr. Phil, Trump says that Biden restricted the number of Secret Service Agents that could be assigned to Trump’s events.





Trump talks about the assassination attempt in this segment.

I always thought it was strange that they had already called police to report their adult son.

I also think it's strange that Crooks could have been building bombs in that tiny house without the parents knowing. You have to figure they found the bomb while looking for him, before calling 911.

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FBI releases photos of shooter's gun and gear

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/28/politics/fbi-gun-photos-trump-shooting/index.html


Thomas Crooks’ rifle broken down as was likely done for transport and the backpack recovered onsite. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI


Two improvised explosive devices as initially discovered in Thomas Crooks’ car trunk. The receiver for remote detonation was in the “off” position; devices had several problems in the way they were constructed. FBI


Thomas Crooks’ rifle as recovered at shooting site. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI

Buffer tube looks undamaged but the stock obviously was.

Trump was just a "Target of Opportunity" and the shooter was looking to shoot either Trump or Biden.

Somehow I don't think I believe the FBI on this one.