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Posted: 8/28/2024 1:45:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HandtoHandWombat: Trump was just a "Target of Opportunity" and the shooter was looking to shoot either Trump or Biden. Somehow I don't think I believe the FBI on this one. Yeah, I call bullshit on that one. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 1:50:32 PM EST
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2 questions.
Is that an OEM dpms upper? what optic is that? yuck offset irons, what a fag |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2024 1:52:14 PM EST
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And now the next "scary feature" that will go on the list with flash hiders, barrel shrouds, and shoulder things that go up will be "able to be disassembled and transported in a backpack".
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Posted: 8/28/2024 1:54:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: Vonbongo]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: 2 questions. Is that an OEM dpms upper? what optic is that? yuck offset irons, what a fag Holosun AEMS. Aero rail. High res pictures here of the firearm, IED and where he climbed to the roof. High Res Pics Rifle type: Make: DPMS - Panther Arms Model: A-15 Caliber: 5.56x45mm/.223 Remington Semiautomatic Attachments: Atlas R-One, Aero Precision - Picatinny rail AEMS optics attached to rail Magpul extendible rear stock.  Attached FileThe air conditioning unit Thomas Crooks’ used to access the roof of the AGR building. The subject accessed the roof by climbing on the tan machine on the far right side of the photo |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 1:55:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: giantpune]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: 2 questions. Is that an OEM dpms upper? what optic is that? yuck offset irons, what a fag Text on the back of the handguard looks like Aero. magpul k grip and CTR stock magpul? handstop kit stock looking trigger. gas block is sitting directly above the handstop. I reckon thats about carbine length gas. A2 flash hider Safe/fire markings on the lower in the one divot we can see from this angle, castle nut not staked.  
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:00:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PacNW5:  Two improvised explosive devices as initially discovered in Thomas Crooks’ car trunk. The receiver for remote detonation was in the “off” position; devices had several problems in the way they were constructed. FBI Any explosives guys care to comment on the arrangement? |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:05:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PacNW5: FBI releases photos of shooter's gun and gear https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/28/politics/fbi-gun-photos-trump-shooting/index.html https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/rifle-backpack.jpg Thomas Crooks’ rifle broken down as was likely done for transport and the backpack recovered onsite. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/trunk-with-two-ieds.jpg Two improvised explosive devices as initially discovered in Thomas Crooks’ car trunk. The receiver for remote detonation was in the “off” position; devices had several problems in the way they were constructed. FBI https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/extended-rifle-pic.jpg Thomas Crooks’ rifle as recovered at shooting site. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI But were the markings made before or after the shooting?? 
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:08:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: But were the markings made before or after the shooting??  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:13:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: 2 questions. Is that an OEM dpms upper? what optic is that? yuck offset irons, what a fag Offsets work |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:21:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HandtoHandWombat: Trump was just a "Target of Opportunity" and the shooter was looking to shoot either Trump or Biden. Somehow I don't think I believe the FBI on this one. - Short direct lane of fire from a high position left open - SS failed to remove Trump from the stage KNOWING there was a threat about - First time SS snipers detailed to Trump rally - assassin shot SECONDS after he opened fire - FBI immediately hosed the blood off the roof - Parents reported their son, a grown ass man, missing only a few hours after he left the house - shooters body cremated before anyone could examine it - parents secured legal representation (what are they worried about?) Yep, nothing to see here all right.  |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:26:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: But were the markings made before or after the shooting?? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By PacNW5: FBI releases photos of shooter's gun and gear https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/28/politics/fbi-gun-photos-trump-shooting/index.html https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/rifle-backpack.jpg Thomas Crooks’ rifle broken down as was likely done for transport and the backpack recovered onsite. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/trunk-with-two-ieds.jpg Two improvised explosive devices as initially discovered in Thomas Crooks’ car trunk. The receiver for remote detonation was in the “off” position; devices had several problems in the way they were constructed. FBI https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/extended-rifle-pic.jpg Thomas Crooks’ rifle as recovered at shooting site. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI But were the markings made before or after the shooting?? 
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:29:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: ryder12]
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I think that is an AERO logo on the hand stop. Doesn't really matter, I just hate woke ass AERO.
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:30:06 PM EST
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Massive cover up going on.
I'm now of the opinion that this kid was a patsy and likely was working for someone. I believe the security hole was left open on purpose, and the kid made his move. The actions taken after the shooting point to more than just malice level incompetence. We have to believe that a 20 year old dipshit loner was able to break contact with law enforcement, find a sniper's position, build technical level bombs, all on his own - but he had encrypted phone apps. The media response was odd. They announced the next day that Iran was actively trying to assassinate T$. Then the media went dark and began censoring photos and posts. Anyone who has worked in media knows that report on Iran was a planted story. The democrats response was to quickly launch their coup on FJB. Agents who were involved haven't been removed from duty, but are still on active details. Why? As long as they are on active protection details, the agents names aren't released for security reasons. Without their names, Congress cannot subpoena the agents that were present. Those agents on the ground will likely give different testimony that conflicts with the official reports. Congressional Republicans have to know this is an attempt to stonewall congressional oversight. I don't see them doing anything about it. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:31:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By panzersergeant: - Short direct lane of fire from a high position left open - SS failed to remove Trump from the stage KNOWING there was a threat about - First time SS snipers detailed to Trump rally - assassin shot SECONDS after he opened fire - FBI immediately hosed the blood off the roof - Parents reported their son, a grown ass man, missing only a few hours after he left the house - shooters body cremated before anyone could examine it - parents secured legal representation (what are they worried about?) Yep, nothing to see here all right. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By panzersergeant: Originally Posted By HandtoHandWombat: Trump was just a "Target of Opportunity" and the shooter was looking to shoot either Trump or Biden. Somehow I don't think I believe the FBI on this one. - Short direct lane of fire from a high position left open - SS failed to remove Trump from the stage KNOWING there was a threat about - First time SS snipers detailed to Trump rally - assassin shot SECONDS after he opened fire - FBI immediately hosed the blood off the roof - Parents reported their son, a grown ass man, missing only a few hours after he left the house - shooters body cremated before anyone could examine it - parents secured legal representation (what are they worried about?) Yep, nothing to see here all right. Deliberately lying to obscure basic details (The Roof of Deadly Slope) |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:33:23 PM EST
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Hard to fire or put people on leave in .gov. The investigation is not complete LOL. I agree the incompetence looks intentional. We know the agent in charge of the site survey was a women. I just want to see her picture.
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:50:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vonbongo: Holosun AEMS. Aero rail. High res pictures here of the firearm, IED and where he climbed to the roof. High Res Pics Rifle type: Make: DPMS - Panther Arms Model: A-15 Caliber: 5.56x45mm/.223 Remington Semiautomatic Attachments: Atlas R-One, Aero Precision - Picatinny rail AEMS optics attached to rail Magpul extendible rear stock. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/185708/IMG_3302_png-3307124.JPG The air conditioning unit Thomas Crooks’ used to access the roof of the AGR building. The subject accessed the roof by climbing on the tan machine on the far right side of the photo there was alot of talk earlier about the accuracy of the dpms. Wondered did he replace the upper. Or at least the barrel. Just something I've been wondering |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:53:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PacNW5: Offsets work I was halfway picking. I dont like them personally, they dont work for me |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:54:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PacNW5: FBI releases photos of shooter's gun and gear https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/28/politics/fbi-gun-photos-trump-shooting/index.html https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/rifle-backpack.jpg Thomas Crooks’ rifle broken down as was likely done for transport and the backpack recovered onsite. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/trunk-with-two-ieds.jpg Two improvised explosive devices as initially discovered in Thomas Crooks’ car trunk. The receiver for remote detonation was in the “off” position; devices had several problems in the way they were constructed. FBI https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/extended-rifle-pic.jpg Thomas Crooks’ rifle as recovered at shooting site. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI A red dot for a head shot at 100+ yrds? No magnification? No wonder he missed. Pretty amateurish setup for that shot. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:03:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: t75fnaco3pwzhd]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveSpud: A red dot for a head shot at 100+ yrds? No magnification? No wonder he missed. Pretty amateurish setup for that shot. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveSpud: Originally Posted By PacNW5: FBI releases photos of shooter's gun and gear https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/28/politics/fbi-gun-photos-trump-shooting/index.html https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/rifle-backpack.jpg Thomas Crooks’ rifle broken down as was likely done for transport and the backpack recovered onsite. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/trunk-with-two-ieds.jpg Two improvised explosive devices as initially discovered in Thomas Crooks’ car trunk. The receiver for remote detonation was in the “off” position; devices had several problems in the way they were constructed. FBI https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/extended-rifle-pic.jpg Thomas Crooks’ rifle as recovered at shooting site. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI A red dot for a head shot at 100+ yrds? No magnification? No wonder he missed. Pretty amateurish setup for that shot. That and canted open sights, both are perfectly capable of making that shot. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:08:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By t75fnaco3pwzhd: That and canted open sights, both are perfectly capable of making that shot. *missing |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:37:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveSpud: A red dot for a head shot at 100+ yrds? No magnification? No wonder he missed. Pretty amateurish setup for that shot. A 2moa dot at 150yds is only 3". Easy shot for someone who knows his gear & ammo. Moving head shot? Should have gone for COM. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 4:00:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PacNW5: FBI releases photos of shooter's gun and gear https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/28/politics/fbi-gun-photos-trump-shooting/index.html https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/rifle-backpack.jpg Thomas Crooks’ rifle broken down as was likely done for transport and the backpack recovered onsite. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/trunk-with-two-ieds.jpg Two improvised explosive devices as initially discovered in Thomas Crooks’ car trunk. The receiver for remote detonation was in the “off” position; devices had several problems in the way they were constructed. FBI https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/extended-rifle-pic.jpg Thomas Crooks’ rifle as recovered at shooting site. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI Shot it the face and had your rifle shot and disabled. Excellent |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 4:36:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: there was alot of talk earlier about the accuracy of the dpms. Wondered did he replace the upper. Or at least the barrel. Just something I've been wondering Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By Vonbongo: Holosun AEMS. Aero rail. High res pictures here of the firearm, IED and where he climbed to the roof. High Res Pics Rifle type: Make: DPMS - Panther Arms Model: A-15 Caliber: 5.56x45mm/.223 Remington Semiautomatic Attachments: Atlas R-One, Aero Precision - Picatinny rail AEMS optics attached to rail Magpul extendible rear stock. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/185708/IMG_3302_png-3307124.JPG The air conditioning unit Thomas Crooks’ used to access the roof of the AGR building. The subject accessed the roof by climbing on the tan machine on the far right side of the photo there was alot of talk earlier about the accuracy of the dpms. Wondered did he replace the upper. Or at least the barrel. Just something I've been wondering I have a DPMS barrel that shoots very accurately. It is not one of their basic models, though. DPMS made some decent stuff, although they became known for their entry level guns. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 4:50:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: there was alot of talk earlier about the accuracy of the dpms. Wondered did he replace the upper. Or at least the barrel. Just something I've been wondering My opinion on the matter, and take this with a grain of salt, cause this is a crazy retard we're dealing with so logic doesnt apply... He did not custom build the upper at all. He's running the stuck mil-spec trigger, mil-spec charging handle, and A2 flash hider. I would expect that anybody who hand picked parts to build their own upper receiver or even replace the barrel on their existing upper would change those other things, too. The only reason A2 flash hiders exist is for cloners and to act as thread protectors. My vote is he is bought a complete aero precision upper receiver with everything already installed in it. Which would put that as a ballistic advantage nitride barrel. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 5:40:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: HandtoHandWombat]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By panzersergeant: - Short direct lane of fire from a high position left open - SS failed to remove Trump from the stage KNOWING there was a threat about - First time SS snipers detailed to Trump rally - assassin shot SECONDS after he opened fire - FBI immediately hosed the blood off the roof - Parents reported their son, a grown ass man, missing only a few hours after he left the house - shooters body cremated before anyone could examine it - parents secured legal representation (what are they worried about?) Yep, nothing to see here all right. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By panzersergeant: Originally Posted By HandtoHandWombat: Trump was just a "Target of Opportunity" and the shooter was looking to shoot either Trump or Biden. Somehow I don't think I believe the FBI on this one. - Short direct lane of fire from a high position left open - SS failed to remove Trump from the stage KNOWING there was a threat about - First time SS snipers detailed to Trump rally - assassin shot SECONDS after he opened fire - FBI immediately hosed the blood off the roof - Parents reported their son, a grown ass man, missing only a few hours after he left the house - shooters body cremated before anyone could examine it - parents secured legal representation (what are they worried about?) Yep, nothing to see here all right. Pretty much. When I got the local news station's alert for their coverage of the AP News' story, my first thought was "they're [FBI] doing the same thing they did with the Vegas shooting." |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:01:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By t75fnaco3pwzhd: That and canted open sights, both are perfectly capable of making that shot. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By t75fnaco3pwzhd: Originally Posted By DaveSpud: Originally Posted By PacNW5: FBI releases photos of shooter's gun and gear https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/28/politics/fbi-gun-photos-trump-shooting/index.html https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/rifle-backpack.jpg Thomas Crooks’ rifle broken down as was likely done for transport and the backpack recovered onsite. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/trunk-with-two-ieds.jpg Two improvised explosive devices as initially discovered in Thomas Crooks’ car trunk. The receiver for remote detonation was in the “off” position; devices had several problems in the way they were constructed. FBI https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/extended-rifle-pic.jpg Thomas Crooks’ rifle as recovered at shooting site. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI A red dot for a head shot at 100+ yrds? No magnification? No wonder he missed. Pretty amateurish setup for that shot. That and canted open sights, both are perfectly capable of making that shot. +1. My 10.5" pistol makes that shot all day long and twice on Sunday. Now. Given the stressful nature of the situation.... I've never been there before so this comes from a sample size of Zero. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:21:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: brass]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PacNW5: FBI releases photos of shooter's gun and gear https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/28/politics/fbi-gun-photos-trump-shooting/index.html  Thomas Crooks’ rifle broken down as was likely done for transport and the backpack recovered onsite. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI  Two improvised explosive devices as initially discovered in Thomas Crooks’ car trunk. The receiver for remote detonation was in the “off” position; devices had several problems in the way they were constructed. FBI  Thomas Crooks’ rifle as recovered at shooting site. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI  Thomas Crooks’ rifle broken down as was likely done for transport and the backpack recovered onsite. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI Two improvised explosive devices as initially discovered in Thomas Crooks’ car trunk. The receiver for remote detonation was in the “off” position; devices had several problems in the way they were constructed. FBI  Thomas Crooks’ rifle as recovered at shooting site. Note: Markings on lower receiver are by the FBI. FBI Quoting to get images on next page is all. --ETA: I uploaded the Extra LARGE Images to Imgur above and you can click and download from imgur for Huge size (3600 x 2400 pixels) |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:33:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: giantpune]
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:16:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: And now the next "scary feature" that will go on the list with flash hiders, barrel shrouds, and shoulder things that go up will be "able to be disassembled and transported in a backpack". With a Feinstein wannabee standing before a press conference showing how easy it is for even a gun novice to breakdown and reassemble a deadly AR-15 for compactness with the simple sliding of two pins. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:36:41 PM EST
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 Trump Shooting FBI Update: Complex Explosives, Encryption, Mystery Vehicles, & More |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:55:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HandtoHandWombat: Trump was just a "Target of Opportunity" and the shooter was looking to shoot either Trump or Biden. Somehow I don't think I believe the FBI on this one. After all, he was simply a 20 year old with no online presence. 
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Posted: 8/28/2024 8:33:12 PM EST
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Dan Bongino To Matt Gaetz: This Is How 'Cover-Up' Around Trump Assassination Attempt Would Work
 Dan Bongino To Matt Gaetz: This Is How 'Cover-Up' Around Trump Assassination Attempt Would Work |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 8:36:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By panzersergeant: - Short direct lane of fire from a high position left open - SS failed to remove Trump from the stage KNOWING there was a threat about - First time SS snipers detailed to Trump rally - assassin shot SECONDS after he opened fire - FBI immediately hosed the blood off the roof - Parents reported their son, a grown ass man, missing only a few hours after he left the house - shooters body cremated before anyone could examine it - parents secured legal representation (what are they worried about?) Yep, nothing to see here all right. WTF would FBI rinse off the roof? |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 8:42:04 PM EST
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Who was the white van with Arizona registration registered to? Mrgunsngear said there’s a lot of rumors of that online but he wouldn’t divulge on YouTube.
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:42:17 AM EST
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Posted: 8/29/2024 7:43:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaGoose:
The comments bounce me around from thinking maybe there's some hope for the country yet, to wondering what universe some of these folks are posting from.  Democrats have done some serious, possibly permanent damage to America's thinkers over the past few decades. I want to anticipate recovery, but I need to anticipate survival. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 8:59:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TWO_LABS: Who was the white van with Arizona registration registered to? Mrgunsngear said there’s a lot of rumors of that online but he wouldn’t divulge on YouTube. I’m wondering this too. One of many things they’ll memory hole, similar to other mass shooting events. Also, why is the SS was withholding resources but providing counter snipers for the first time? |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 9:03:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: JohnnyLoco]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: +1. My 10.5" pistol makes that shot all day long and twice on Sunday. Now. Given the stressful nature of the situation.... I've never been there before so this comes from a sample size of Zero. Yeah we all know from all the pro shooters here a head shot on a moving target in a stressful environment at 150yrds is a chip shot. As I’ve already said, it’s a bullshit story, if he was truly well prepared for this shot as he seemed to be in all other aspects, he would have used a magnified optic. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 9:28:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: giantpune]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Yeah we all know from all the pro shooters here a head shot on a moving target in a stressful environment at 150yrds is a chip shot. As I’ve already said, it’s a bullshit story, if he was truly well prepared for this shot as he seemed to be in all other aspects, he would have used a magnified optic. Not sure what you're getting at. He made the shot and the target moved. Y'all never shot at a deer and the bastard moved? A magnified optic wouldn't have changed that. He was in a bit of a hurry. He had just run across the roof, encountered law enforcement, and turned around and took his shot. He didn't have time to pull out the rangefinder, check the wind, dial in his dope, calm down, and wait for trump to start grazing in the grass before he shot. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:07:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: JohnnyLoco]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: Not sure what you're getting at. He made the shot and the target moved. Y'all never shot at a deer and the bastard moved? A magnified optic wouldn't have changed that. He was in a bit of a hurry. He had just run across the roof, encountered law enforcement, and turned around and took his shot. He didn't have time to pull out the rangefinder, check the wind, dial in his dope, calm down, and wait for trump to start grazing in the grass before he shot. My point is he doesn’t seem like he was the main shooter, or didn’t think he was, and was working with someone. He seems to be texting, communicating with someone. Knows exactly where to go where he would be obscured a bit. Even though 150yrds isn’t that far, he somehow just knew to prepare and bring equipment for that range, not even knowing what the perimeter would be the day of? Please They want to burry the possibility of this scenario, even the so called analysts on our side, like they can’t even fathom it, other than Chris Martenson. The red dot imo proves bare minimum he had all the info he needed and help from his fed handlers. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:16:48 AM EST
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:24:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9mmmac: WTF would FBI rinse off the roof? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9mmmac: Originally Posted By panzersergeant: - Short direct lane of fire from a high position left open - SS failed to remove Trump from the stage KNOWING there was a threat about - First time SS snipers detailed to Trump rally - assassin shot SECONDS after he opened fire - FBI immediately hosed the blood off the roof - Parents reported their son, a grown ass man, missing only a few hours after he left the house - shooters body cremated before anyone could examine it - parents secured legal representation (what are they worried about?) Yep, nothing to see here all right. WTF would FBI rinse off the roof? I suspect there was a chemical in the shooter's blood stream that they didn't want people to know about. That's why they would cremate the body and rinse off the roof. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:25:36 AM EST
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:27:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Yeah we all know from all the pro shooters here a head shot on a moving target in a stressful environment at 150yrds is a chip shot. As I’ve already said, it’s a bullshit story, if he was truly well prepared for this shot as he seemed to be in all other aspects, he would have used a magnified optic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: +1. My 10.5" pistol makes that shot all day long and twice on Sunday. Now. Given the stressful nature of the situation.... I've never been there before so this comes from a sample size of Zero. Yeah we all know from all the pro shooters here a head shot on a moving target in a stressful environment at 150yrds is a chip shot. As I’ve already said, it’s a bullshit story, if he was truly well prepared for this shot as he seemed to be in all other aspects, he would have used a magnified optic. High magnification is great for long distance (like 500+ yards) and punching paper. In practical use, it's not that great, especially for moving targets. It didn't take me very many hunting trips before I learned less is more. My main hunting rifle has a 2.5x optic on it. I've killed running antelope at greater distance with no magnification at all. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:43:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomac: A 2moa dot at 150yds is only 3". Easy shot for someone who knows his gear & ammo. Moving head shot? Should have gone for COM. I have made numerous sub MOA groups using irons (5 shot at 100yds, seated, sandbag rest using an very accurate M1A, match ammo) and also using various RDS (w/3X mag, premium PSA AR15, bench/sandbag rest, preferred match ammo) under ideal range conditions. I could NOT come close to this accuracy from an unsupported prone position. Certainly not under combat stress, waiting to get shot in the face. I'm not saying this kid was a sniper but if (big IF) he was aiming at the head, he did very well (had some skill, practice, etc.) or he as very lucky. It Trump had not turned his head, we's be talking about this idiot like he was some super-sniper assassin. p.s. Do we know anything about his ammo? p.p.s. If he was remotely serious about shooting, he would have kept notes on zero's, various loads, kept some targets, etc. (No I do not believe ANY information from the fbi) |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:47:03 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: My opinion on the matter, and take this with a grain of salt, cause this is a crazy retard we're dealing with so logic doesnt apply... He did not custom build the upper at all. He's running the stuck mil-spec trigger, mil-spec charging handle, and A2 flash hider. I would expect that anybody who hand picked parts to build their own upper receiver or even replace the barrel on their existing upper would change those other things, too. The only reason A2 flash hiders exist is for cloners and to act as thread protectors. My vote is he is bought a complete aero precision upper receiver with everything already installed in it. Which would put that as a ballistic advantage nitride barrel. Agree. The trigger would be the first thing to be replaced. Are we sure it's an OEM shit trigger and not something else like a RRA match or similar? They are hard to distinguish by just a picture. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:50:16 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Yeah we all know from all the pro shooters here a head shot on a moving target in a stressful environment at 150yrds is a chip shot. As I’ve already said, it’s a bullshit story, if he was truly well prepared for this shot as he seemed to be in all other aspects, he would have used a magnified optic. Sub MOA at 200 yards, standing, unsupported, shooting M855, ALL DAY LONG! #GD
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Posted: 8/29/2024 11:09:01 AM EST
[#48]
The local news just covered the FBI's bullshit from yesterday. Apparently the photos showed the "gun's collapsible barrel"
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Posted: 8/29/2024 11:20:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: giantpune]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Agree. The trigger would be the first thing to be replaced. Are we sure it's an OEM shit trigger and not something else like a RRA match or similar? They are hard to distinguish by just a picture. I'm not a biologist. To my untrianed eye, its a basic bitch FCG. From what I can see on the RRA match, this guy's hammer and trigger don't match any of their pictures. 
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Posted: 8/29/2024 12:17:30 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By t75fnaco3pwzhd: High magnification is great for long distance (like 500+ yards) and punching paper. In practical use, it's not that great, especially for moving targets. It didn't take me very many hunting trips before I learned less is more. My main hunting rifle has a 2.5x optic on it. I've killed running antelope at greater distance with no magnification at all. I didn’t say high magnification. But it’s funny to me that people here don’t think at least a 1.5-4x quality optic improves your shooting, at least on paper, at even 100 yards. Do most people go hunting at medium range these days with irons or red dot or the venerable fixed Leupold 4x. Would you rather have a red dot for an important shot at 150yrds or a 3.5x ta11? And Crooks wore glasses from an early age, I’m guessing probably had some astigmatism. The stock trigger seals the deal for me, it has patsy written all over it. |
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