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3/27/2008 11:54:33 PM EDT
So arfcom what do you do when your friend gets into a fight at the bar but you have nothing to do with it?  Also you didnt know what happened and the bastard(person starting the fight) runs away?

Just a little while ago my friend got into a fight and it was lights out for him.  I had no idea what happened until i turned and looked.  My friend was out cold on the ground and i stepped in the way after to make sure nothing else occured after he was on the ground.  The other person and his "crew" were far gone by the time i realized what happened.  Any advice from the night crew?  Actually im not looking for answers, i just was to discuss it because i have nothing better to do.
3/27/2008 11:56:52 PM EDT
[#1]
his/her problem
3/27/2008 11:57:08 PM EDT
[#2]
i've had that happen once or twice before. i just went back to my drink.
3/27/2008 11:59:11 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
i've had that happen once or twice before. i just went back to my drink.


I would have done that but we were heading out and thats when the shit got bad.  My friends are pissed but i seem to be the only one to realize that it is over and it shit happens.  All the other people are hell bent on finding the people which will never happen.
3/28/2008 12:03:36 AM EDT
[#4]
Step 1: Buy yourself a beer
Step 2: ??????
Step 3: Profit!
3/28/2008 12:04:33 AM EDT
[#5]
yep. we'd always end up scouting out the bar, the parking lot, the next few bars over, drive to another bar/club and repeat.
the worst part is that you don't really care b/c you know you won't find 'em and rationalizing with drunks is like spitting into the wind.
3/28/2008 12:06:21 AM EDT
[#6]
Depends on my level of wastedness.
3/28/2008 12:09:40 AM EDT
[#7]
1.  Only step in if your friend is about to get killed...save if necessary.

2.  Find a new drinking buddy.  
3/28/2008 12:10:06 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
yep. we'd always end up scouting out the bar, the parking lot, the next few bars over, drive to another bar/club and repeat.
the worst part is that you don't really care b/c you know you won't find 'em and rationalizing with drunks is like spitting into the wind.


That is exactly how i feel, but like you said you cant rationalize with drunks.  Maybe when they wake up they will realize what happened but i highly, highly doubt that.    Also i think that having a concealed carry permit changes the way you think about situations like this.  No i was not carrying and will NEVER as long as i know i will be drinking booze.
3/28/2008 12:14:11 AM EDT
[#9]
I'm a regular at the bars I go to, and I know most the other regulars. Someone would have to be an idiot to start a fight with any of us.
3/28/2008 12:22:33 AM EDT
[#10]
Wait until your friend wakes up and see if he remembers WTF.  Then go from there.
3/28/2008 12:26:39 AM EDT
[#11]

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Wait until your friend wakes up and see if he remembers WTF.  Then go from there.


You know thats a good point.  I think he will notice the huge lump on his face but i doubt he will remember the fight(sucker punch).  I will call him tomorrow to see how he is doing.
3/28/2008 12:50:10 AM EDT
[#12]
if a friend of mine gets himself into a fight, it is his responsibility to acquit himself.  i act like a duelling second--that is, i will ensure that it is a 1v1 fight, that no weapons are brought into play, and that if my friend goes down, his opponent doesn't attempt to injure him after he ceases to resist.  as long as these rules are respected, i will stand by and let the two fighters work things out in gentlemanly fashion.

if, however, these rules are broken, i don't hesitate to intervene.  and if someone jumps a friend of mine, then all bets are off--i don't tolerate cheap shots and ambushes.
3/28/2008 12:52:02 AM EDT
[#13]
I'll defend a friend from getting injured, but if I think the fight he started/got into is stupid, he's on his own.
3/28/2008 12:55:22 AM EDT
[#14]
I have seen and been involved in enough of them to not really care much anymore.

If the guys were gone, I would just keep on drinking and hittin' on the girls.

I actually used to go out and look for an excuse to fight...now I just get shitfaced and have a good time. You'd be surprised how hard it is to get into a fight when you don't instigate anything.

I have fallen over and knocked people down...I just said, "sorry 'bout that" and they were like, "It's cool dude."
3/28/2008 1:06:14 AM EDT
[#15]
I stay out of bars for that very reason.
3/28/2008 1:09:40 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
if a friend of mine gets himself into a fight, it is his responsibility to acquit himself.  i act like a duelling second--that is, i will ensure that it is a 1v1 fight, that no weapons are brought into play, and that if my friend goes down, his opponent doesn't attempt to injure him after he ceases to resist.  as long as these rules are respected, i will stand by and let the two fighters work things out in gentlemanly fashion.

if, however, these rules are broken, i don't hesitate to intervene.  and if someone jumps a friend of mine, then all bets are off--i don't tolerate cheap shots and ambushes.


This is exactly what i did.  I made sure that the other people would not get involved but unfortunately for my friend he got knocked the fuck out.  I stayed with him until he recovered and i did everything i could to calm him down after he woke up.  Oh well what can you do.  Thanks arf.com for giving me a little insight on how to react.  Now its off to bed for me!
3/28/2008 1:25:34 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I stay out of bars for that very reason.


+1

I find better company at home and can drink there for a lot less
3/28/2008 1:43:55 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I stay out of bars for that very reason.


+1

I find better company at home and can drink there for a lot less


Holy Schnikes yes!  In college my first off campus roommate was a scrapper and I can't tell you how many times we were exiting the drinking facility quickly because of his actions.  He had a bad case of little man syndrome and wasn't a little guy at all; he just always had to be right when he was drinking.

I quit hanging out with him when one of his little incidents involved me.  I don't like fighting in general but especially when I had no reason to be involved except to drag his arse out of the bar semi-conscious.  I also made the mistake of breaking up a fight by hurting a frat brother of his which made me a "badguy" to the frat members.  Sorry, but there didn't need to be blood.

Now people wonder why I avoid bars like the plague.  Just because the folks are "friendly" in there doesn't mean they will be with six or ten beers in them.  Hell some people like to cause problems just to cause problems.  I don't want to deal with it.
3/28/2008 1:45:14 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I stay out of bars for that very reason.


+1

Max
3/28/2008 1:55:08 AM EDT
[#20]
any man who falls behind is left behind....
3/28/2008 2:11:42 AM EDT
[#21]
Most bars are cesspools of deviant shitbag activity.

People get one drink in them and turn into Jose Cuervo. The Night Wolf Ranger.
The Lone Wolf Man, Maaaaaannnnn. Lemme tellaya somthin. Ever think about killin somebody man?

Jose will wreck your car then morph into a werewolf and escape into the woods.

Jose cant be reasoned with.
3/28/2008 2:28:33 AM EDT
[#22]
I avoid bars... seen too much idiocy happen with a belly full of liquid courage (and no, I'm not throwing stones... some of the idiocy was my own).

You'll grow out of the bar thing, as most do.
3/28/2008 2:36:36 AM EDT
[#23]
I think the only time I have ever stepped in was when he was vastly outnumbered and it wasn't really his fault.  A bunch of us were walking back to the train during an all out riot in Philly following one of their natorious Phat Tuesday mishaps.

He got seperated from the rest of us and bumped into the wrong person, we were all pretty shit faced.  Words were exchanged and by the time I knew what was going on, there were five dudes pounding on him.  I figured the other two guys we were with would follow me into the carnage, I was wrong.  Long story short, I got a few good shots in then lights out.  I woke up about a minute or two later with a busted up eye.  My buddy was in worse shape, but he helped me up.  

If they are being an asshole, they get what's coming to them.  However, there are times when you are obligated to at the least to try and stop the fight.    
3/28/2008 4:00:01 AM EDT
[#24]
Only get involved if the fight is not fair.  If a buddy is about to get seriously injured then I will step in.  It is generally stupid to try and start shit too.