Posted: 3/28/2004 6:16:25 PM EDT
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WIth certain members deciding others don't need to be here, does this mean we can pick and choose members arbitrarily to try and chase them from the site? Will I also be allowed to call them whores and such without any repurcussion? Just wondering how it's going to be. |
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From [b]The Man[/b]: [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=234876&w=searchPop[/url] Edit: The pertinent parts: Quoted: A word of advice: If you think the [b]poster is a male[/b] trying to troll: do not post in the thread If you think the[b] poster is a female looking for attention[/b],you have two choices: A)Give her attention,by posting B)Deny it,by not posting If you think the [b]poster is a female, and like the males on this site,just wants to chat with anyone who voluntarily responds[/b] then please,[red]treat her with the same respect you treat everyone else.[/red] [size=4]As you see,it is very simple matter.Nobody forces you to post in her thread if you do not want to do so![/size=4] [red]Any more personal attacks are hereby discouraged.[/red] We have several very pleasant/dedicated female shooters in the site.But unfortunately, many more have been turned away by similar presumptions by some members of them being males/trolls pretending to be females. [size=4]Please,stop the attacks now.[/size=4] |
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I had feared for some time that this terrible situation would become reality. It brings to mind a notable literary passage: [i]"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."[/i] Peace be with you. |
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Quoted: From [b]The Man[/b]: [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=234876&w=searchPop[/url] Edit: The pertinent parts: Quoted: A word of advice: If you think the [b]poster is a male[/b] trying to troll: do not post in the thread If you think the[b] poster is a female looking for attention[/b],you have two choices: A)Give her attention,by posting B)Deny it,by not posting If you think the [b]poster is a female, and like the males on this site,just wants to chat with anyone who voluntarily responds[/b] then please,[red]treat her with the same respect you treat everyone else.[/red] [size=4]As you see,it is very simple matter.Nobody forces you to post in her thread if you do not want to do so![/size=4] [red]Any more personal attacks are hereby discouraged.[/red] We have several very pleasant/dedicated female shooters in the site.But unfortunately, many more have been turned away by similar presumptions by some members of them being males/trolls pretending to be females. [size=4]Please,stop the attacks now.[/size=4] Funny how Ed / Ar15.com cant take his own advice when it comes to Imbroglio. |
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Quoted: I had feared for some time that this terrible situation would become reality. It brings to mind a notable literary passage: [i]"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."[/i] Peace be with you. Nice, very nice. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Funny how Ed / Ar15.com cant take his own advice when it comes to Imbroglio. And you have examples of this dastardly bit of hypocrisy? Apparently you missed the thread. (gasp) Do a search with Ed's name and look for yourself. "The thread" brought up a number of threads. Please don't be obtuse. [i]WHICH[/i] thread?? . . . Or better yet, please provide exact quotes from Ed Sr. I have no clue what you are talking about. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Funny how Ed / Ar15.com cant take his own advice when it comes to Imbroglio. And you have examples of this dastardly bit of hypocrisy? Apparently you missed the thread. (gasp) Do a search with Ed's name and look for yourself. "The thread" brought up a number of threads. Please don't be obtuse. [i]WHICH[/i] thread?? . . . Or better yet, please provide exact quotes from Ed Sr. I have no clue what you are talking about. I am not going to bother to look if you wont. However the bottom line is he told Imbroglio to hit the road because people think he is a troll and they don't like the content of his posts. Now here he is telling people to ignore a poster if you think he/she is a troll and to leave them be and treat them with respect. Sounds kinda flip floppy to me. And ED, no I don't actually/literally know what flip floppy sounds like. |
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Quoted: I am not going to bother to look if you wont. However the bottom line is he told Imbroglio to hit the road because people think he is a troll and they don't like the content of his posts. Now here he is telling people to ignore a poster if you think he/she is a troll and to leave them be and treat them with respect. Sounds kinda flip floppy to me. And ED, no I don't actually/literally know what flip floppy sounds like. Well, the bastard! If I was that upset, I'd refuse to associate with the likes of him. I'd just leave--that'll teach him! |
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Quoted: However the bottom line is he told Imbroglio to hit the road because people think he is a troll and they don't like the content of his posts. [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=235813&w=searchPop[/url] Originally Posted by EdAvilaSr [b]I [i]suggest[/i] you [i]take a break from trolling[/i] this board(yes,I know trolling is a subjective word)with anti-Bush sentiment.[/b] One thread with that intention is fine.Two topics is OK.Three of them,in my estimation,you are trolling for trouble. Go and take a short -or long- recess over at one of the other boards, and let us catch our breath here. If you decide to stay here,please back off from spamming the board with the same crap in different disguises. NOTE: This is a personal suggestion and it does not reflect the official opinion of AR15.com. Any similarities between you and any troll-living or 6 feet under- is purely coincidental. Your milage may vary,depending on posting habits and political affiliation.I like pie,+1,I'd hit it and IBTL on this thread will get those posting in trouble. Thank you! [blue]Where did he tell him to hit the road?[/blue] |
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Quoted: I am not going to bother to look if you wont. Translation: I am talking out of my ass. However the bottom line is he told Imbroglio to hit the road because people think he is a troll and they don't like the content of his posts. Translation: When you don't have concrete proof, talk about "basics" and pray people are dumb enough to rely on your word. Now here he is telling people to ignore a poster if you think he/she is a troll and to leave them be and treat them with respect. Sounds kinda flip floppy to me. You would equate Imbroglio with this girl who is posting or another newb? Imbro says and does things to specifically annoy and harrass. His comments demand responses with reason and logic, two attributes he lacks. And ED, no I don't actually/literally know what flip floppy sounds like. Probably similar to the sound of you talking through your ass.[moon] |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Funny how Ed / Ar15.com cant take his own advice when it comes to Imbroglio. And you have examples of this dastardly bit of hypocrisy? Apparently you missed the thread. (gasp) Do a search with Ed's name and look for yourself. "The thread" brought up a number of threads. Please don't be obtuse. [i]WHICH[/i] thread?? . . . Or better yet, please provide exact quotes from Ed Sr. I have no clue what you are talking about. I am not going to bother to look if you wont. However the bottom line is he told Imbroglio to hit the road because people think he is a troll and they don't like the content of his posts. Now here he is telling people to ignore a poster if you think he/she is a troll and to leave them be and treat them with respect. Sounds kinda flip floppy to me. And ED, no I don't actually/literally know what flip floppy sounds like. There is a difference... While the suspected-female-troll tends to post one (long) thread at a time, Imbrog was being chastised for posting 3 or 4 trolling threads on the same subject, simultaniously... Don't know about you, but that's kind of spam-ish IMHO... Note Ed's complaint referrs not to the fact that he's complaining about the prez, but that he posts a series of anti-Bush threads all at once... |
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Quoted: Quoted: However the bottom line is he told Imbroglio to hit the road because people think he is a troll and they don't like the content of his posts. [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=235813&w=searchPop[/url] Originally Posted by EdAvilaSr [b]I [i]suggest[/i] you [i]take a break from trolling[/i] this board(yes,I know trolling is a subjective word)with anti-Bush sentiment.[/b] One thread with that intention is fine.Two topics is OK.Three of them,in my estimation,you are trolling for trouble. Go and take a short -or long- recess over at one of the other boards, and let us catch our breath here. If you decide to stay here,please back off from spamming the board with the same crap in different disguises. NOTE: This is a personal suggestion and it does not reflect the official opinion of AR15.com. Any similarities between you and any troll-living or 6 feet under- is purely coincidental. Your milage may vary,depending on posting habits and political affiliation.I like pie,+1,I'd hit it and IBTL on this thread will get those posting in trouble. Thank you! [blue]Where did he tell him to hit the road?[/blue] That's [b][i]IT??[/i][/b] Well, I would CERTAINLY take my ball and go home. The NERVE of him. Hmmmmph! [lol] |
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Quoted: Quoted: However the bottom line is he told Imbroglio to hit the road because people think he is a troll and they don't like the content of his posts. [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=235813&w=searchPop[/url] Originally Posted by EdAvilaSr [b]I [i]suggest[/i] you [i]take a break from trolling[/i] this board(yes,I know trolling is a subjective word)with anti-Bush sentiment.[/b] One thread with that intention is fine.Two topics is OK.Three of them,in my estimation,you are trolling for trouble. Go and take a short -or long- recess over at one of the other boards, and let us catch our breath here. If you decide to stay here,please back off from spamming the board with the same crap in different disguises. NOTE: This is a personal suggestion and it does not reflect the official opinion of AR15.com. Any similarities between you and any troll-living or 6 feet under- is purely coincidental. Your milage may vary,depending on posting habits and political affiliation.I like pie,+1,I'd hit it and IBTL on this thread will get those posting in trouble. Thank you! [blue]Where did he tell him to hit the road?[/blue] Reading comprehension 101. Please pay attention as there will be a test at the end of this thread. The title of the thread you linked to (You cleverly left that out) and the very first line clearly imply that he should leave and go to another site. While he was not banned it is implied that he currently is not welcome here because he is thought of as a troll and AR15.com needs a break from him. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I am not going to bother to look if you wont. Translation: I am talking out of my ass. However the bottom line is he told Imbroglio to hit the road because people think he is a troll and they don't like the content of his posts. Translation: When you don't have concrete proof, talk about "basics" and pray people are dumb enough to rely on your word. Now here he is telling people to ignore a poster if you think he/she is a troll and to leave them be and treat them with respect. Sounds kinda flip floppy to me. You would equate Imbroglio with this girl who is posting or another newb? Imbro says and does things to specifically annoy and harrass. His comments demand responses with reason and logic, two attributes he lacks. And ED, no I don't actually/literally know what flip floppy sounds like. Probably similar to the sound of you talking through your ass.[moon] I bet you feel like an idiot now that you read what you posted but found you cant delete it. |
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Not in the slightest. My comments were directed at your inability to communicate effectively and by making claims which you would not provide proof for. Your arrogance is offensive. My comments stand. Next time, do your own legwork. Additionally, I find that Ed's comments do not stand for what you believe they do. He clearly is telling Imbro to stop spamming the board, NOT stop giving his opinion. There is a huge difference. Edit because I was tired and was looking at something else. Apologies. |
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Quoted: While he was not banned it is implied that he currently is not welcome here because he is thought of as a troll and AR15.com needs a break from him. [b][red][size=5]SO?[/size=5][/red][/b] There seems to be an awful lot of people who take themselves a little too seriously around here lately... |
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Quoted: Not in the slightest. My comments were directed at your inability to communicate effectively and by making claims which you would not provide proof for. Your arrogance is offensive. My comments stand. Next time, do your own legwork. Additionally, I find that Ed's comments do not stand for what you believe they do. He clearly is telling Imbro to stop spamming the board, NOT stop giving his opinion. There is a huge difference. Edit because I was tired and was looking at something else. Apologies. So you don't think he implied Imbroglio to stop being Imbroglio? He has been this way for years. So its more or less change who you are or leave. |
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To be honest, no. If Ed wants to tell you to fuck off and leave his site, he'll flat out tell you. He even said that Imbro could post topics, but just DO NOT SPAM. I can't find it any clearer than that. Imbro was given a choice, abide by the rules or bugger off. Imbro will choose his path. If he decides to keep spamming, I'm all for his banishment. Intelligent debate is appreciated. Cut and paste is useless. |
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Quoted: The fact of the matter is that a bunch of people are/were ganging up on Imbroglio and then Ed chimes in with that post. [b]Collectively[/b] it sounds as if its a site sponsored get the hell out due to the popular pressure. Sorry I missed this thread until now.Unlike other people,mods and staff have to open threads even when they don't care for what the author might be saying.Actually,those are the ones we need to check more often to make sure they comply.So,while I say to members not to open certain threads,unfortunately we cannot follow our own advice! It may sound to you like ..."blah,blah" but it is not what I posted. Like balzac said,while I am polite and try to ask people what to do rather than tell them,"I mean what I say,and say what I mean".As cliche as that might sound,I don't talk in parables. If I had meant I wanted Imboglio out,I would have told him that.The title of the thread was inspired by a post by someone who said "since Imbroglio came back to AR15 he has not posted much at XXXX.He is missed"(sarcastic comment by the poster!)The point to him was to stop spamming with similar threads. Stop analyzing my posts for hidden messages,Rip.When I want you -or any body else out- I will explicitly say so.No guessing needed on your part. You are beginning to piss me off with your constant whining and misinterpretation of meanings in posts,mine and other people's.[:(!] See,I am direct and to the point.No this does not imply I want you out.......yet! |
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Quoted: You are beginning to piss me off with your constant whining and misinterpretation of meanings in posts,mine and other people's.[:(!] See,I am direct and to the point.No this does not imply I want you out.......yet! Boo fucking Hoo. I hope you didn't lose any sleep over it. I haven't been whining and have not deliberately misrepresented ANYONE. I simply expressed a desire to have the rules enforced evenly and fairly. If my mild actions have you pissed off you need a new hobby. Remember its just an INTERNET discussion, don't go kicking the family dog over it when you don't agree with me. BTW Don't do me any favors by letting me stay a little longer before you boot me. If you don't like what I have to say and it bothers you that much, hit the "NUKE ACCOUNT" button right now! Don't expect me to kiss your ass just because you own this site. You are just another INTERNET poster like the rest of us. I have strong opinions and I am not always right, thats just me. Nobody's perfect. Don't like it? Oh well! |
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Quoted: Quoted: You are beginning to piss me off with your constant whining and misinterpretation of meanings in posts,mine and other people's.[:(!] See,I am direct and to the point.No this does not imply I want you out.......yet! Boo fucking Hoo. I hope you didn't lose any sleep over it. I haven't been whining and have not deliberately misrepresented ANYONE. I simply expressed a desire to have the rules enforced evenly and fairly. If my mild actions have you pissed off you need a new hobby. Remember its just an INTERNET discussion, don't go kicking the family dog over it when you don't agree with me. BTW Don't do me any favors by letting me stay a little longer before you boot me. If you don't like what I have to say and it bothers you that much, hit the "NUKE ACCOUNT" button right now! Don't expect me to kiss your ass just because you own this site. You are just another INTERNET poster like the rest of us. I have strong opinions and I am not always right, thats just me. Nobody's perfect. Don't like it? Oh well! Oh YEAH! Like he is going to fall for THAT! Good luck RipMeyer! |
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Quoted: Boo fucking Hoo. I hope you didn't lose any sleep over it. I haven't been whining and have not deliberately misrepresented ANYONE. I simply expressed a desire to have the rules enforced evenly and fairly. If my mild actions have you pissed off you need a new hobby. Remember its just an INTERNET discussion, don't go kicking the family dog over it when you don't agree with me. [b]Misrepresenting [/b]is a different word than [b]misinterpreting[/b] I took the trouble above to explain what was said to Imbroglio,so your "desire to have the rules enforced evenly" is unnecessary. BTW Don't do me any favors by letting me stay a little longer before you boot me. If you don't like what I have to say and it bothers you that much, hit the "NUKE ACCOUNT" button right now! I agree.I won't do you any favors! I don't have to like what you say.All I need to do is make sure it is within our rules,no matter how much they might or might not bother me! [;)] I won't kick you out for no reason.You have to really earn it! [:)] Don't expect me to kiss your ass just because you own this site. You are just another INTERNET poster like the rest of us. I have strong opinions and I am not always right, thats just me. Nobody's perfect. Don't like it? Oh well! Not only do I not expect you to kiss my ass,I want you to NOT even think about it. Eeeewwwwwwe![:X*] And I disagree on me being "another INTERNET poster like the rest of us".You are a big mouthed,cocky and arrogant poster.The opposite of what most of "the rest os us" are! |
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Quoted: And I disagree on me being "another INTERNET poster like the rest of us".You are a big mouthed,cocky and arrogant poster.The opposite of what most of "the rest os us" are! In the spirit of friendship, I will not come out and openly disagree with the last sentence, but will keep my opinion private. Peace be with you. |
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Quoted: Quoted: And I disagree on me being "another INTERNET poster like the rest of us".You are a big mouthed,cocky and arrogant poster.The opposite of what most of "the rest os us" are! In the spirit of friendship, I will not come out and openly disagree with the last sentence, but will keep my opinion private. Peace be with you. Interesting; Taking the time to type "I'm keeping my opinion to myself" on a discussion board. |