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1/19/2004 5:52:54 PM EDT
Ok, no 'get a (whatever)' advise... I like my Beretta, I don't like the Glock/XD/etc hammerless design, and besides I'll be needing familiarity with the 92FS in the near future...

I have a 92FS. Up to this point it has been 100% reliable, but at the range today I encountered an issue.

I pull the trigger, and the gun does not fire. The hammer stays in place (either cocked or de-cocked, wherever it was), and the trigger just moves freely.

I have determined the cause to be a problem with the trigger-bar, specifically the back end that releases the hammer is dropping down, instead of staying up and engaging the firing mechanisim.

Any ideas what caused this? Is it common? Am I missing a spring, or is something assembled wrong?

Any help appreciated...
1/19/2004 5:56:17 PM EDT
[#1]
There is a spring that keeps the bar up. It goes from the frame to the bar and fits into that slot beneath the bar.
1/19/2004 6:00:06 PM EDT
[#2]
In all likelihood, your trigger spring broke.  I had it happen twice on the Berettas Ive own.  

Its a an easy fix once you get the replacement if you have any skill at taking guns apart.

Wolff makes a conversion spring that ends the problem that is also easy to install.  Border Patrol/INS installed them in their Berettas after having the same breakage problem.

[url]http://www.gunsprings.com/SemiAuto/BerettaNF.html#TCU[/url]
1/19/2004 6:04:46 PM EDT
[#3]
If the bar is dropping it's not the mousetrap spring on the trigger, that causes it not to reset and you manually have to reset the trigger.
1/19/2004 6:05:20 PM EDT
[#4]
Sounds like a problem with a broken or dislocated trigger bar spring? Part #26

[url]http://www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp?chrMasterModel=1150z92FS[/url]

The upper portion of it rides in a very narrow slot in the trigger bar and raises it so that the bar engages the sear. Otherwise, the trigger bar will drop down and result in the condition you describe.

If that is the cause, it's a simple fix. Just one more reason to have a few extra spring packs on hand.
1/19/2004 6:20:59 PM EDT
[#5]
Trigger bar spring...

Fell out last cleaning session...

Found it, re-installing...

Thanks...
1/19/2004 6:22:59 PM EDT
[#6]
In the future if you have any real issues, your Beretta came with a Lifetime Warranty.
1/19/2004 6:42:56 PM EDT
[#7]
Before you go ahead and order a new spring, go ahead and take off the right-side grip from the frame, perhaps the spring just came loose and either came off the bar or went under the grip.
1/19/2004 6:43:49 PM EDT
[#8]
Thanks SA...

I'll keep that in mind, but I hope I never need it, of course...

Now I know to check for the little spring when re-assembling next time...
1/19/2004 7:28:04 PM EDT
[#9]
marshall Gerard says "get a Glock"
they never need cleaning and can fire underwater
1/19/2004 7:28:38 PM EDT
[#10]
marshall Gerard says "get a Glock"
they never need cleaning and can fire underwater