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Posted: 8/16/2022 10:11:28 AM EDT
[#1]
Yeah, making the affidavit public would "irreparably harm the government's ongoing criminal investigation" because it would reveal it to be the fucking farce we all know it is.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 10:15:30 AM EDT
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Quoted: ...The government has considered whether the affidavit could be released with redactions but "the redactions necessary to mitigate harms to the integrity of the investigation would be so extensive as to render the remaining unsealed text devoid of meaningful content, and the release of such a redacted version would not serve any public interest," government lawyers said in a footnote in an Aug. 15 brief. "Nevertheless, should the Court order partial unsealing of the affidavit, the government respectfully requests an opportunity to provide the Court with proposed redactions," they said....  |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 10:18:33 AM EDT
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the real irony here, and I'm not convinced it isn't intentional, is this only further erodes any faith in institutions people have (well, all of them except the either fanatical left wing or fanatical soup bitch nut huggers, "lol").
Even if you dislike Trump and think he is dirty, everything about this seems suspicious and at the very least untoward, if not malicious. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 10:19:57 AM EDT
[#4]
defund the alphabet
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Posted: 8/16/2022 10:23:24 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder what kind of heinous shit they have Reinhart on tape doing at Epstein Island? |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 10:41:38 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: More like: U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) lawyers said unsealing the affidavit would "irreparably harm the government's ongoing criminal ACTIVITIES |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 10:43:02 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So where do Trump and Trump's legal team stand on unsealing the affidavit and making it public? Anybody? Trump wants it public, un-redacted according to fox news |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 11:03:48 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump wants it public, un-redacted according to Fox News |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:18:43 PM EDT
[#9]
Deep State has been after Trump since he was a candidate; not a club member.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:21:43 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Unsealing it will show what liars they are. This right here, they are liars and committed perjury and they know it. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:30:15 PM EDT
[#11]
I don't think any LE unseal an affidavit in an ongoing investigation until discovery if they can avoid it.
The simplest explanation is that there's a snitch in Trump's circle and they don't want to name him yet. It's not like it hasn't happened before. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:38:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:48:09 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sometimes I wonder: Do they hate him this deeply for his attacks on them, or because he used to be one of them and left the fold? It's hard to tell. This level of hatred is rare in history. Trump is an existential threat because he's a voice for populism. He's literally the harbinger of doom for their money, power, and privilege. They've done the same or worse to try and stamp out every other populist style reformer. You want hate, look at what they did to the Kennedys. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:51:41 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So where do Trump and Trump's legal team stand on unsealing the affidavit and making it public? They said to do it. After the DOJ gave them the choice. And then walked it back when DJT said go for it. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:57:59 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So where do Trump and Trump's legal team stand on unsealing the affidavit and making it public? Anybody? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/11/democrats-gas-prices-trump-legal/ |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:59:11 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: More like: U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) lawyers said unsealing the affidavit would "irreparably harm the government's ongoing criminal investigation." |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:02:11 PM EDT
[#17]
Usual suspects at it again in this thread I see
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:02:56 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shenanigans afoot You spelled CORRUPTION, TREASON, BETRAYAL and COLLUDING wrong! |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:07:40 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So where do Trump and Trump's legal team stand on unsealing the affidavit and making it public? Anybody? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/11/democrats-gas-prices-trump-legal/ |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:11:43 PM EDT
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"The government should use secret courts to investigate political opponents of the Executive branch in an election year." --Nobody who penned the Constituion....ever.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:13:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is the warrant, not the affidavit that supported the warrant. Warrants are largely meaningless, it's the affidavit that provides the probably cause for the warrant. Other than a social media post, it's unclear whether Trump has made any move to support the release of the affidavit on the case. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So where do Trump and Trump's legal team stand on unsealing the affidavit and making it public? Anybody? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/11/democrats-gas-prices-trump-legal/ Lol, the public wants to see the affidavit. No one is trusting the government has probable cause here. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:18:05 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is the warrant, not the affidavit that supported the warrant. Warrants are largely meaningless, it's the affidavit that provides the probably cause for the warrant. Other than a social media post, it's unclear whether Trump has made any move to support the release of the affidavit on the case. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So where do Trump and Trump's legal team stand on unsealing the affidavit and making it public? Anybody? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/11/democrats-gas-prices-trump-legal/ https://kdhnews.com/news/politics/feds-oppose-unsealing-affidavit-for-mar-a-lago-warrant/article_b4548a2b-e3d2-5ec7-889e-aaf99babdf2d.html "Trump, in a Truth Social post early Tuesday, called for the release of the unredacted affidavit in the interest of transparency." Not good enough for you? |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:20:24 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://kdhnews.com/news/politics/feds-oppose-unsealing-affidavit-for-mar-a-lago-warrant/article_b4548a2b-e3d2-5ec7-889e-aaf99babdf2d.html "Trump, in a Truth Social post early Tuesday, called for the release of the unredacted affidavit in the interest of transparency." Not good enough for you? |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:28:01 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump is an existential threat because he's a voice for populism. He's literally the harbinger of doom for their money, power, and privilege. They've done the same or worse to try and stamp out every other populist style reformer. You want hate, look at what they did to the Kennedys. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sometimes I wonder: Do they hate him this deeply for his attacks on them, or because he used to be one of them and left the fold? It's hard to tell. This level of hatred is rare in history. Trump is an existential threat because he's a voice for populism. He's literally the harbinger of doom for their money, power, and privilege. They've done the same or worse to try and stamp out every other populist style reformer. You want hate, look at what they did to the Kennedys. ETA: And I'll even say look at what happened to Nixon after he gave "them" what they wanted. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:31:16 PM EDT
[#25]
As time passes, more of the public will believe it is a hoax.
Trump bad, but it is a secret how. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:32:19 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think any LE unseal an affidavit in an ongoing investigation until discovery if they can avoid it. The simplest explanation is that there's a snitch in Trump's circle and they don't want to name him yet. It's not like it hasn't happened before. Let's not try to insert facts and common sense into this matter. 
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:36:42 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So where do Trump and Trump's legal team stand on unsealing the affidavit and making it public? Anybody? |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:37:06 PM EDT
[#28]
If I was an FBI agent, I would be quietly building a case against my own command and all the judges they have in their pocket for massive RICO violations and then taking it to a known good Judge that is outside the loop and seconding my entire case to State Law Enforcement in states with known good governors such as DeSantis.
The DOJ is literally the world's biggest and well funded organized crime syndicate. They are Mexican Federal police, and the Democrat machine is the fucking Sinaloa Cartel. Just like nothing happens in Mexico without the permission of the Cartel and without them profiting from it thanks to them thoroughly penetrating the Federal Law Enforcement and Judicial systems, nothing happens in America without the permission of the Obama and Clinton teams, nor without them profiting financially or politically from it somehow.....thanks to their thorough penetration of the Federal Law Enforcement and Judicial systems. That includes elections, budgets, even media publishing and social media posting such as this site. Remember how the Dem machine teamed up with AWS to shut down ARFCOM until they agreed to allow Glowie participation and surveillance? Also, just like the relationship between the Mexican Federales and Judges and the Cartels, the DOJ is allowed to have a real "win" once in awhile, investigations and convictions on an occasional small fry like Blagojevich, or small time election cheaters (as is happening now), just to maintain appearances and a veneer of legitimacy. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:38:55 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They said to do it. After the DOJ gave them the choice. And then walked it back when DJT said go for it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So where do Trump and Trump's legal team stand on unsealing the affidavit and making it public? They said to do it. After the DOJ gave them the choice. And then walked it back when DJT said go for it. Yeah, DOJ bet on a pair of twos there lol. They never wanted to unseal it, but were hoping they could avoid the obvious perceptions of being the one to refuse lol. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:41:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "The government should use secret courts to investigate political opponents of the Executive branch in an election year." --Nobody who penned the Constituion....ever. IIRC, this is the EXACT ARGUMENT that Lurch (FBI Director Comey) used to justify refusing to further investigate Hillary Clinton's illegal and leaky personal email server and all the Classified Information that leaked through it. "It would create the perception of bias to investigate a political candidate in an election year". You can't make this shit up! |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:41:17 PM EDT
[#31]
Two Trolls have joined the conversation like clock work
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:49:56 PM EDT
[#32]
"Quoted:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/11/democrats-gas-prices-trump-legal/That is the warrant, not the affidavit that supported the warrant. Warrants are largely meaningless, it's the affidavit that provides the probably cause for the warrant. Other than a social media post, it's unclear whether Trump has made any move to support the release of the affidavit on the case." Whenever the Leftist coordinated media has to air a point, and wants it perceived as "factual" they use the present tense and say it directly, i.e. "so and so aggressively pursued the victim and fired shots, striking him 10 times". When they have to air a point, but want to AVOID actually making or reinforcing a point, they use the specific word "unclear". INVARIABLY.........i.e. "it is unclear if the victim knew or interacted with the madman accused of shooting him 10 times" when in reality, the "victim" was holding up the shooter or some similar situation. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:05:26 PM EDT
[#33]
The timing of any parts of the affidavit must coincide with the election in November...they plan to slow drip this to keep Trump in the news cycle in hopes to sour the public trust of Republicans.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:23:49 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted: Biden Administration Urges Court to Keep Trump Search Affidavit Sealed President Joe Biden's administration on Aug. 15 urged a federal court to keep the affidavit that led to the approval of a search warrant on former President Donald Trump's resort shielded from the public.   
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:25:42 PM EDT
[#35]
If there are doing nothing wrong, they have nothing to hide.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:30:05 PM EDT
[#36]
In this country we have the right to face our accuser.
Something that was not afforded to trump during the impeachment scams. Let’s see if a “real” court will allow his rights to be infringed or not. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:32:00 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Waiting for this to turn into the next Crossfire/Hurricane/Steel Dossier nonsense publicity stunt. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:32:48 PM EDT
[#38]
Are affidavits for federal search warrants typically sealed? I (maybe incorrectly) was under the impression that was half the point of the FISA courts existing, to keep that kind of info confidential to all but the judge issuing the warrant.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:32:56 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Very transparent. the Adults are in charge now |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:35:26 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: the Adults are in charge now 81 million votes No more mean tweets Hold still citizen. Wait for flash from IRS M4! 
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:04:13 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, the public wants to see the affidavit. No one is trusting the government has probable cause here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So where do Trump and Trump's legal team stand on unsealing the affidavit and making it public? Anybody? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/11/democrats-gas-prices-trump-legal/ Lol, the public wants to see the affidavit. No one is trusting the government has probable cause here. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:04:51 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://kdhnews.com/news/politics/feds-oppose-unsealing-affidavit-for-mar-a-lago-warrant/article_b4548a2b-e3d2-5ec7-889e-aaf99babdf2d.html "Trump, in a Truth Social post early Tuesday, called for the release of the unredacted affidavit in the interest of transparency." Not good enough for you? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So where do Trump and Trump's legal team stand on unsealing the affidavit and making it public? Anybody? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/11/democrats-gas-prices-trump-legal/ https://kdhnews.com/news/politics/feds-oppose-unsealing-affidavit-for-mar-a-lago-warrant/article_b4548a2b-e3d2-5ec7-889e-aaf99babdf2d.html "Trump, in a Truth Social post early Tuesday, called for the release of the unredacted affidavit in the interest of transparency." Not good enough for you? |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:08:22 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is a post on Truth Social a legal filing for a judge to consider when ruling on a motion? Quote HistoryQuoted: Is a post on Truth Social a legal filing for a judge to consider when ruling on a motion? Quoted: So where do Trump and Trump's legal team stand on unsealing the affidavit and making it public? |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:08:37 PM EDT
[#44]
If Trump would just step aside they would leave him alone. Then gov resources could be focused on his supporters.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:16:00 PM EDT
[#45]
This is such bullshit. That judge should have recused himself already anyways.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:19:01 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If Trump would just step aside they would leave him alone. Then gov resources could be focused on his supporters. no they won't, he has to be publicly destroyed and forced to beg forgiveness. he committed the ultimate heresy by impugning the lefts almighty god, the state |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:27:22 PM EDT
[#47]
These people cannot afford to lose and they wish to win at any cost.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:38:38 PM EDT
[#48]
Did you not expect the DOJ to hide fuckups, Come on man this America we can trust our government officials to line their pockets.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:47:24 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Waiting for this to turn into the next Crossfire/Hurricane/Steel Dossier nonsense publicity stunt. Don't wait, it already is. Just like muh-Russia the classified documents scheme is perfect for the IC class to give column inches in discussion and the various talking heads to make their way onto news shows to discuss their bona fides while wringing their hands in concerned motions about the nation's secrets being mishandled. Evvvrone is an expert on classified documents all of the sudden and that's the problem; they've successfully created this narrative that we need to discuss classification and various statutes that have little to nothing to do with why they did the raid in the first place. Anyone that buys into the story of the "seriousness" of these agencies with anything to do with Trump is fooling themselves. They reacted to protect themselves and now they're selling a story about classification as if they're all suddenly Columbia law professors jibber jabbering about nuklar secrets. It's actually all too predictable. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:04:07 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is the warrant, not the affidavit that supported the warrant. Warrants are largely meaningless, it's the affidavit that provides the probably cause for the warrant. Other than a social media post, it's unclear whether Trump has made any move to support the release of the affidavit on the case. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So where do Trump and Trump's legal team stand on unsealing the affidavit and making it public? Anybody? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/11/democrats-gas-prices-trump-legal/ Most of us got your spin the first two times you said it. |
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