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11/26/2009 2:48:11 PM EDT
[#1]
SUMMARY AS OF:
4/30/2009––Introduced.

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives Reform and Firearms Modernization Act of 2009 - Amends the federal criminal code to revise the civil penalties for violations of firearms law and the procedures for assessing such penalties. Requires fines to be based upon the nature and severity of the violation, the size of the firearms business involved, and the prior record of the firearm's licensee. Prohibits consideration of the amount of fines or license revocations imposed by agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) in the retention, promotion, or transfer of such agents.

Revises the definition of "willfully" for purposes of firearms violations and standards for criminal violations of firearms recordkeeping requirements.

Requires the Attorney General to: (1) make preliminary determinations on firearms license applications and notify applicants in writing of a proposed denial; and (2) establish guidelines for ATF inspections, examinations, or investigations of possible firearms violations.

Permits an owner of a firearms business whose license is expired, surrendered, or revoked 60 days to liquidate inventory.

Allows purchasers of existing firearms businesses the right to cure firearms violations attributable to such businesses.

Allows the transfer, possession, and importation of machineguns for industry testing, training, and film production.

Eliminates the requirement of written permission for the use of a handgun for lawful purposes by a minor (under age 18) where a parent or legal guardian is present at all times during such use.

Prohibits the Attorney General from electronically retrieving inactive firearms licensee information by name or personal identification code.

Directs the Attorney General to authorize the importation of all frames or receivers of rifles, or barrels for firearms other than handguns, if the importation is for repair or replacement purposes.


That isnt too hard is it?
11/26/2009 2:50:16 PM EDT
[#2]
Cliff notes?
11/26/2009 2:50:22 PM EDT
[#3]
I read the summary...what's the 'catch'?
11/26/2009 2:53:34 PM EDT
[#4]





A member of this site in MI, whom I happen to call a very good friend, has a shirt like this.  Sums up my feelings quite nicely.
11/26/2009 2:54:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Sounds like the agents who make the most number of busts won't get promoted based on that fact.


I have a better ideal to reform the BATFE.

















Disband the entire agency.
11/26/2009 3:05:05 PM EDT
[#6]
I've been saying for YEARS our legislature has been out-to-lunch regarding firearms laws. They have painted with such a big brush firearms restrictions that they have granted FAR too much authority to the Executive Branch to essentially create laws themselves through the Code of Federal Regulations.  Even the CFR is vague and overly broad in some areas leading to confusion not just among those FFL and gun owners, but among law enforcement and the judicial system.

Let everyone be given fair notice with easy to understand regulations that instead of punishing people for oversights or small technical mistakes helps correct and quide the industry as well as gun owners. Right now you can't call our firearms restrictions "common sense" or anywhere close to and that needs to change.

The important thing is to make sure firearms do not end up in the hands of criminals or the insane. Not to punish the living crap out of someone who made a mistake that caused no harm.
11/26/2009 3:28:29 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Sounds like the agents who make the most number of busts won't get promoted based on that fact.


I have a better ideal to reform the BATFE.


Disband the entire agency.


And repeal the laws that they were supposed to enforce!
11/26/2009 3:30:00 PM EDT
[#8]
Personally?

I think they should be disbanded.
11/27/2009 7:19:18 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
I've been saying for YEARS our legislature has been out-to-lunch regarding firearms laws. They have painted with such a big brush firearms restrictions that they have granted FAR too much authority to the Executive Branch to essentially create laws themselves through the Code of Federal Regulations.  Even the CFR is vague and overly broad in some areas leading to confusion not just among those FFL and gun owners, but among law enforcement and the judicial system.

Let everyone be given fair notice with easy to understand regulations that instead of punishing people for oversights or small technical mistakes helps correct and quide the industry as well as gun owners. Right now you can't call our firearms restrictions "common sense" or anywhere close to and that needs to change.

The important thing is to make sure firearms do not end up in the hands of criminals or the insane. Not to punish the living crap out of someone who made a mistake that caused no harm.



Agreed and this bill will make some needed reforms for gun stores
11/27/2009 7:21:45 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I read the summary...what's the 'catch'?


It'll never pass, there's been attempts to reform the ATF for years that has always been ignored by our politicians.
11/27/2009 7:25:32 AM EDT
[#11]

"Allows the transfer, possession, and importation of machineguns for industry testing, training, and film production. "



I remember this part from previous discussions on this proposal ........................Do YouTube videos count?
11/27/2009 7:25:34 AM EDT
[#12]
It would be more effective to have Congress draft legislation reassigning almost all Justice Department (sic) personnel to the JTTF.   They would be too busy chasing terrorists to enforce any of the bullshit that is currently on the books or inventing the random and fabricated "It's not against the law but we jerrymandered the testing procedure to ensure you go to prison.  LOL."  game that the BATFE is so fond of playing.
11/27/2009 7:31:58 AM EDT
[#13]
Allows the transfer, possession, and importation of machineguns for industry testing, training, and film production.


Oh that's just nice.  John Q Public can't import machine guns but the anti gun liberals in hollywood can for filmmaking?  What a bunch of crap
11/27/2009 7:35:33 AM EDT
[#14]
Re-form them into toll collectors on the bridges from Juarez to El Paso.
11/27/2009 7:59:42 AM EDT
[#15]
Yea, they are going to reform "Always Think Forfeiture" to "Be Absolutely sure They Forfeit Everything".

11/27/2009 8:14:27 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I've been saying for YEARS our legislature has been out-to-lunch regarding firearms laws. They have painted with such a big brush firearms restrictions that they have granted FAR too much authority to the Executive Branch to essentially create laws themselves through the Code of Federal Regulations.  Even the CFR is vague and overly broad in some areas leading to confusion not just among those FFL and gun owners, but among law enforcement and the judicial system.

Let everyone be given fair notice with easy to understand regulations that instead of punishing people for oversights or small technical mistakes helps correct and quide the industry as well as gun owners. Right now you can't call our firearms restrictions "common sense" or anywhere close to and that needs to change.

The important thing is to make sure firearms do not end up in the hands of criminals or the insane. Not to punish the living crap out of someone who made a mistake that caused no harm.


This is an impossible task and only succeeds in taking away the rights of the law abiding....we have laws on the books prohitting the possesion of firearms by criminials and the insane, enough said...this is all that is needed.....
11/27/2009 8:47:43 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
SUMMARY AS OF:
4/30/2009––Introduced.

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives Reform and Firearms Modernization Act of 2009 - Amends the federal criminal code to revise the civil penalties for violations of firearms law and the procedures for assessing such penalties. Requires fines to be based upon the nature and severity of the violation, the size of the firearms business involved, and the prior record of the firearm's licensee. Prohibits consideration of the amount of fines or license revocations imposed by agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) in the retention, promotion, or transfer of such agents.

Revises the definition of "willfully" for purposes of firearms violations and standards for criminal violations of firearms recordkeeping requirements.

Requires the Attorney General to: (1) make preliminary determinations on firearms license applications and notify applicants in writing of a proposed denial; and (2) establish guidelines for ATF inspections, examinations, or investigations of possible firearms violations.

Permits an owner of a firearms business whose license is expired, surrendered, or revoked 60 days to liquidate inventory.

Allows purchasers of existing firearms businesses the right to cure firearms violations attributable to such businesses.

Allows the transfer, possession, and importation of machineguns for industry testing, training, and film production.


Eliminates the requirement of written permission for the use of a handgun for lawful purposes by a minor (under age 18) where a parent or legal guardian is present at all times during such use.

Prohibits the Attorney General from electronically retrieving inactive firearms licensee information by name or personal identification code.

Directs the Attorney General to authorize the importation of all frames or receivers of rifles, or barrels for firearms other than handguns, if the importation is for repair or replacement purposes.


That isnt too hard is it?


One of the bedrock principles upon which a Republic is founded is that the law applies to and protects each citizen equally.
11/27/2009 9:36:59 AM EDT
[#18]
Pretty much a worthless change. It does make thing a bit better for FFLs and shops. Does nothing for the rest of us. I is a film producer from now on though.



There is still no requirement for the ATF to have documented standards and guidelines. That would have been a significant change to the way the ATF operates. No more shoestrings as machine guns or things like the Atkins's deal. How an agency can make a ruling and then turn around and do the, oh we didn't mean what we said before. This is ridiculous and contrary to reason and logic.



I have some major problems with the whole NCIS thing for the most part. I have a CCW so why do I need to be continually vetted? A significant amendment would have been for them to abolish the majority of ATF. We already have so many laws and agencies to enforce them there is zero need to have a bunch of people who's sole job is to harass and create new law without legislation.
11/27/2009 9:38:10 AM EDT
[#19]
obama is way to busy to deal with the ATF
11/27/2009 9:45:20 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Personally?

I think they should be disbanded.


This,they are unconstitutional,I have no issues with saying that
11/27/2009 9:49:12 AM EDT
[#21]
Wake me up when we can register new transferable machine guns again.

11/27/2009 9:57:01 AM EDT
[#22]



Quoted:



Allows the transfer, possession, and importation of machineguns for industry testing, training, and film production.




Oh that's just nice.  John Q Public can't import machine guns but the anti gun liberals in hollywood can for filmmaking?  What a bunch of crap


What's the best beltfed round for a Tom Cruise?