Posted: 9/22/2006 7:25:04 PM EDT
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I'm turning 40 and buying myself a black powder pistol. I know nothing about these so need input. This was posted in the correct forum but no one has answered yet and I may look at some tomarrow. Was thinking maybe two matching or one more expensive like the Colt Walker. Are there any preferences 36 or 44 cal??? I'm hoping to shoot this alot. I want the ability to have extra cylinders. Is there such a thing as a cartrage conversion cylinder??? Better or Best manufacturers??? Being black powder can they be mailed direct to my home??? Anything else I need to know? Thanks for any info, Joe 
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I have a Colts Walker replica pistol. It is a powerful pistol. Blackpowder firearms can be shipped direct in most states. I hope you like cleaning guns because you shoot one of these even one time and you have to clean it as if you shot it one thousand times. Have fun. |
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ever build an AR15 from a parts kit and a lower? remember how fun it was when you first sent a round downrange form "your" build well get a single shot black powder pistol kit. fun to build and you can keep it with a traditional look or refinish it in some really neat looking colors. that being said ...go ruger..cost more but great quality...even if some of ruger policies have upset me in the past.... |
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Are you looking for something that looks "antique", or jsut a toy? If you want a toy, the rugers are good. If you want something authentic looking, the ruger is NOT what you want. I have a few repros. i would never buy a new design black powder. Just seems wrong. It's like the inline muzzle loaders.... it's just not the same. |
I prefer 44 caliber. More bang and more smoke! As was posted above, the Ruger Old Army is a nice revolver. It is not really a replica of anything however. The Ruger is a modern revolver made to resemble an old one. This is not necessarily a bad thing, especially if you see yourself using a conversion cylinder and smokeless ammo. If you are wanting something "authentic", many folks shy away from the Rugers in preference of more accurate reproductions. There are two companies making conversion cylinders for revolvers. If you are thinking about doing this, you should probably look at what models the conversions are available for before you buy the revolver. A good place to look around is here. I think if you look under accessories you will find the conversion cylinders and what revolvers they are made for. |
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1) Technically the "best" or machanically superior authentic cap & ball revolver is a 1858 New Army Remington (really should be called a 1863 New Army). 2) The Toughest best cap & ball gun ever made is the Ruger Old Army (zero authenticity) 3) The BEST feeling, best handling, best looking, best pointing cap & ball revolver of all time is the Colt 1851 Navy .36 (unless you have really big hands and then you want the Colt 1860 Army) 4) the most fun cap & ball gun of all time is a Colt Walker or one of the Colt Dragoons. If you want to go big I would stay with the Colt 2nd or 3rd Model Dragoons. Better overall design and reliability. I will also say that the Colts are less prone to fouling problems. All Italian clones need new nipples from Treso, lots of lube and propper cap fit is VERY important to fun (no frustrations) reliable shooting all day long. I've owned them all at one point or another and only have Colts now. Colt '51 Navys are all I shoot now too. Wild Bill all the way!!! |
Authentic is important and CAVU said 44 for big bang and smoke, also important. Leaning towards Uberti sp? Dragoon. 44cal. , 45lc conversion available (pricey). What did Clint use in High Plains Drifter? |
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I was just searching about this two days ago. I too would like a Colt Walker or decent replica of one. Does Colt even sell any cap and ball pistols anymore, or will I need to purchase one used? What replica company should I go with if Colts are out of my leauge? Thanks. I have been shooting tradtitional BP off and on for a few years, just never got into the pistols. |
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Uberti makes some of the best repro cap and ball revolvers... I would start with a '58 Remington.... Use 3F black powder or Pyrodex P...I prefer the black powder myself as it is more authentic...you can get it shipped by mail up to 50 lbs... Go here: www.powderinc.com/ Your kit should include: Nipple wrench with nipple pic Animal lard or Crisco or Thompsen Center Bore Butter #11 Percussion Caps Pistol Powder Measure (get a brass one) Powder Flask (again, I prefer brass) .454 Round Balls .45 Cal Jag Hot soapy water for cleanup Place caps on nipples and fire on empty cylinders to dry them out. Load revolver with (I believe about 30 grains maybe a bit more) 3FG You cant overload with black powder, as the balls will stick out too far.. Load balls on top of powder, you should see lead rings, the cylinder sizes the balls for you. Cover with Lard, Crisco or Bore Butter..DO NOT use petroleum based grease as you will get nasty fowling...This prevents chainfiring. Pick the nipples, pinch the caps slightly, place firmly on the nipple. When firing the revolver, be sure to tilt the pistol and let the fired cap fall to the ground so as to avoid jamming the gun. This is with all BP revolvers. Clean with hot soapy water, a jag and a patch...You need nothing else. Dry the bore, and the rest of the gun thoroughly... Coat bore and externals with lard/bore butter... You can do this with Crisco, but it will go rancid eventually. After heavy use, you will want to take the trigger group apart and clean it...lube the internals with lamp black. Have fun... As another pointed out...an 1851 Navy in .36 (the REAL caliber..they NEVER came in .44) is a great shooter... Whatever you do, get steel frame, they are pricier, but they hold up better. Besides, the original guns came with steel frames. Brass framed revolvers of the era were cheap Confederate nockoffs...  |
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2nd Model Dragoon..Charcoal Blued (Cimmaron by Uberti) Charcoal bluing is a delicate finsh and some has worn off from use.. I have shot this one a lot... The Dragoon is fairly large...more like a horse pistol. 1858 Remington by Uberiti...this is built like a tank...a bit lighter weight but a stronger frame... Nothing unsafe about the Dragoon though...They will both handle the pressures from BP loads just fine. Included in the picture is all you need to shoot and clean them... I make my own balls with a lee ball mold...I use pure lead. Go here: www.cimarron-firearms.com/BlkPowder/black_powder_guns2.htm Cimmaron has the nicest BP revolvers..these are Ubertis made to look a bit more authentic (mostly markings and different finishes) For the rest of the stuff and the lower priced Uberti Revolvers... Go here: www.midwayusa.com 
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