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9/9/2011 7:49:28 AM EDT
Founda guy in the local paper that is selling his body armor. He is retired senior officer from the Marine Corps, ex military contractor, and former northern Nevada SWAT instuctor. So says him anyways.

He has his Marine Corp issue vest with all four class 4 rifle plates, ( triple curve contour plates ) and a kevlar helmet.

I am not sure if the vest is the older Interceptor type vest or the newer MTV ( Modular Tactical Vest )

Also not sure if the plate are the older SAPI's or the newer E-SAPI's. They are extra large plates.

He is asking $900. Based on what i have seen for prices from online sites for plates, this is a good deal.

So, i am going to look at this stuff later today, heard from my buddy in the Marines to place plates on table, and press on them to see if the flex. If the flex thay are no good. Was also going to look for any obvious flaws or cracks.

What should i be looking for to make sure i am not buying junk plates.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

9/9/2011 7:53:22 AM EDT
[#1]
Marine Corps issue vest? Sounds like government property to me.
9/9/2011 7:54:27 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Marine Corps issue vest? Sounds like government property to me.


That's what I was thinking as well.
9/9/2011 7:54:38 AM EDT
[#3]
GREAT price!!!
9/9/2011 7:54:46 AM EDT
[#4]
google his name and see if any of that checks out.


If the plates are ceramic, they could be damaged and you'd never know it.   Pull them out of the vest and inspect them each carefully - any knicks, chips, scratches, etc make the plates suspect, but again IIRC you can never be sure unless they are x-ray'd.   I have never heard of the "flexing" test on a plate.

If they're steel plates, then there's no risk, but then it might not be such a sweet deal.

In general, buying used is always risky - that's why they're cheap.  
9/9/2011 7:57:37 AM EDT
[#5]
Yeah, I don't think the Marine Corps lets you go home with your vest and plates. Might be out $ 900 when CID shows up on your door. Personally I question the wisdom of buying used body armor since you have no idea what abuse/use it has already been subjected to.
9/9/2011 8:27:26 AM EDT
[#6]
Sounds like a good deal from a guy with a questionable history and likely possessing stolen property.
9/9/2011 8:36:51 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Yeah, I don't think the Marine Corps lets you go home with your vest and plates. Might be out $ 900 when CID shows up on your door. Personally I question the wisdom of buying used body armor since you have no idea what abuse/use it has already been subjected to.


that part
9/9/2011 8:37:25 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Marine Corps issue vest? Sounds like government property to me.


This.

In case some of you (still) don't realize this, nearly everything one is issued in the .mil is accountable...which means you turn it in when you get out...or make up a story (lie) about how you lost it or whatever.  So chances are anyone selling their (or someone else's) issue gear is selling stolen government property.  If any of it has a big "US" on it, chances are it was not obtained via legal means.

Bad karma in my book.
9/9/2011 8:37:50 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Sounds like a good deal from a guy with a questionable history and likely possessing stolen property.


hope your not a detective...
9/9/2011 8:43:04 AM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Sounds like a good deal from a guy with a questionable history and likely possessing stolen property.




hope your not a detective...



So why don't you tell us why it is such a good deal.



 
9/9/2011 8:45:32 AM EDT
[#11]
You're gonna get loved tenderly...
9/9/2011 8:46:39 AM EDT
[#12]
Stolen gear. I'd avoid it if I were you. There are plenty of places you can get body armor legally but, unfortunately, it won't be $900 for that full set.
9/9/2011 8:47:02 AM EDT
[#13]
Kevlar weaves tend to weaken over time.  Introduce heat and sweat into the mix and it weakens much faster.

If it is something I will depend upon to stop a bullet from ending my life, I would never consider buying second hand from someone I don't know.  I'd also never consider buying military issue gear.
9/9/2011 8:47:15 AM EDT
[#14]
Body armor, nightvision, suspiciously beat to hell aimpoints and acogs of the models the military uses are big risks to buy
9/9/2011 8:56:05 AM EDT
[#15]
I mis spoke, said it was the same as marine corp issue, not that it is. My bad, i wouldn't want stolen gear.

I understand that you are never 100% sure on used anything.

Also would be getting a new vest / plate carrier. More intersted in the plates and helmet.

From what i saw online the big front and back plate go for around $500, and about the same fora set of side plates. Helmets around $250-$400.

Was just going to look em over real well, if the seemed like the were in good shape pick em up.

His reason for selling is that he is getting both knees replaced and various other heath issues. Talked to him twice on the phone and he started asking me what kind of person i was, he didn't want to sell to someone that was going to use it for bad shit ya know. He seemed legit, as stupid as that sounds haha.

9/9/2011 9:34:13 AM EDT
[#16]
just buy it.

sheesh

9/9/2011 9:38:28 AM EDT
[#17]
When I was in I investigated people who did this very thing, one of our old squadron members listed his shit on ARFCOM. The look on his face when OSI and I showed up at his door was priceless YMMV
9/9/2011 9:42:59 AM EDT
[#18]




Quoted:

You're gonna get loved tenderly...

This still applies.
9/9/2011 9:46:07 AM EDT
[#19]
To beat a dead horse I will just echo the thought the armor is likely stolen.  Its more common than you think.
9/9/2011 9:50:21 AM EDT
[#20]
I will check for any U.S. stamps or markings. Plates and helmet should all have one if they are military issue / stolen right.
9/9/2011 10:12:49 AM EDT
[#21]
contract number and lot number will be on them as well.

the big one is the NSN number is my guess.

thats what i have heard though.....

if you are worried about the plates themselves, if you got a pal in radiology you can get em xrayed to make sure there arnt any cracks etc.

and the .mil does usualy have the 5 year policy.    after five years the manufacturer says you should get new stuff.

thats just what i have heard.......
9/9/2011 10:45:48 AM EDT
[#22]




Quoted:

I will check for any U.S. stamps or markings. Plates and helmet should all have one if they are military issue / stolen right.




Not always, no.  Pics would help.  Do you have any?
9/9/2011 10:55:36 AM EDT
[#23]
I don't I know i fail.

The guy is close enough to where i live i am just going over after work to check em out.

If they were purchased buy him it should olny have manufactor markings on it right.
9/9/2011 11:05:47 AM EDT
[#24]
not always...Point Blank sold the original Interceptor to non-mil customers also.  i dont know if the labeling was any different though