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Posted: 6/10/2024 6:14:12 PM EST
[#1]
For example, engineers discovered issues with Starliner's parachute system and its wiring, much of which turned out to be wrapped in flammable tape. that was a great idea. lol |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 6:45:49 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Shakeout Cruise". Is that anything like a shakedown cruise? Maybe that's what they call it when it's a Boeing. More like shakeapart cruise. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:10:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess it’s time to call Elon and send space X to save them. Nice work Boeing. Never change.  Savage. But accurate 
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:15:56 PM EST
[#4]
"That motherfucker right there is not real."
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:17:08 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: that was a great idea. lol Quote HistoryQuoted: For example, engineers discovered issues with Starliner's parachute system and its wiring, much of which turned out to be wrapped in flammable tape. that was a great idea. lol It sounds like they were following the Soviet example of venting peroxide past the parachute lines (which made them fall apart - and caused the somewhat important capsule they were holding to hit the ground at excessive speed. (similar to dropping it from 10,000 feet or so.) |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:23:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's Boeing, guess they should be lucky they're still alive to worry about the trip back down. Has anyone in mission control suddenly caught pneumonia and shot themselves in the back of the head with a shotgun six times? |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:29:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Elon should offer to go get them... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe they can catch a ride home on SpaceX and kick their junker to the curb. Elon should offer to go get them... Is there enough time to set up a dragon capsule and rocket to go get them? |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:31:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: its not exactly stranded according to that article. Editorializing article titles is a bannable offense on a whole lot of forums, and for good reason. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:38:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Editorializing article titles is a bannable offense on a whole lot of forums, and for good reason. They are UNABLE to return on time, how are they not stranded till the issue is resolved? They had issues pop up in route to the ISS. Starliner also encountered problems with its thrusters. Five of the capsule’s 28 thrusters malfunctioned, forcing the crew to scramble and restart four of them. This setback caused Starliner to miss its initial docking window and circle the Earth for an extra hour before successfully linking up with the ISS. https://interestingengineering.com/space/starliner-docks-at-space-station-with-crew |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:38:55 PM EST
[#10]
Are they in a little tiny capsule with no room to move? Jeez, that would drive me crazy.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:43:19 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They are UNABLE to return on time, how are they not stranded till the issue is resolved? They had issues pop up in route to the ISS. Starliner also encountered problems with its thrusters. Five of the capsule’s 28 thrusters malfunctioned, forcing the crew to scramble and restart four of them. This setback caused Starliner to miss its initial docking window and circle the Earth for an extra hour before successfully linking up with the ISS. https://interestingengineering.com/space/starliner-docks-at-space-station-with-crew They got there late and now are dealing with ISS schedule conflicts which is a space walk. They will not have dueling operations like that on ISS. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:43:36 PM EST
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So Boeing is the first to "leave one up there" - I guess being the butt of a worn out joke is a first of sorts.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:49:21 PM EST
[#13]
Starliner Max?
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:53:51 PM EST
[#14]
lost in space... a three hour tour
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:57:05 PM EST
[#15]
Clickbait title. Based on the article they are not stranded in orbit unable to return…they will not return on time but are neither stranded or unable.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:58:10 PM EST
[#16]
Did you all know about Boeings racecar attempt?
 E46 M3 loses door at 280 kph | Nürburgring Onboard Race car |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:58:29 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Elon should offer to go get them... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe they can catch a ride home on SpaceX and kick their junker to the curb. Elon should offer to go get them... ETA. If nothing else, dragon could tow it back. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:58:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Russian Soyuz is the safest lander. I’d hitch a ride on one of those. factually incorrect. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:01:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Elon should offer to go get them... If they cant go back on starliner then thats literally whats going to happen. no option. Pretty sure only Crew Dragon can autopilot and dock itself. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:03:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there enough time to set up a dragon capsule and rocket to go get them? Crew 8 is still there and can carry 7. It only brought 4 with it (3 astronauts, 1 cosmonaut). |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:07:21 PM EST
[#21]
This is what happens when you launch a DEI built rocketship with known problems just to save face
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:07:23 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: factually incorrect. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Russian Soyuz is the safest lander. I’d hitch a ride on one of those. factually incorrect. Considering the length of service it is statistically the safest. I'd rather ride dragon though. Looks like a more comfortable ride. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:10:10 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They are UNABLE to return on time, how are they not stranded till the issue is resolved? They had issues pop up in route to the ISS. Starliner also encountered problems with its thrusters. Five of the capsule’s 28 thrusters malfunctioned, forcing the crew to scramble and restart four of them. This setback caused Starliner to miss its initial docking window and circle the Earth for an extra hour before successfully linking up with the ISS. https://interestingengineering.com/space/starliner-docks-at-space-station-with-crew Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Editorializing article titles is a bannable offense on a whole lot of forums, and for good reason. They are UNABLE to return on time, how are they not stranded till the issue is resolved? They had issues pop up in route to the ISS. Starliner also encountered problems with its thrusters. Five of the capsule’s 28 thrusters malfunctioned, forcing the crew to scramble and restart four of them. This setback caused Starliner to miss its initial docking window and circle the Earth for an extra hour before successfully linking up with the ISS. https://interestingengineering.com/space/starliner-docks-at-space-station-with-crew If you are stuck in traffic are you stranded, or delayed? Your thread title sucks and you know it. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:12:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Shakeout Cruise". Is that anything like a shakedown cruise? Maybe that's what they call it when it's a Boeing. Boeing can’t even get standard nomenclature correct. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:22:30 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is what happens when you launch a DEI built rocketship with known problems just to save face Hopefully, those awful (old white male engineers) charge enough in consultation fees that the bean counters starve. 
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:25:51 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are they in a little tiny capsule with no room to move? Jeez, that would drive me crazy.  Boeing Starliner crew enters space station after docking |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:28:23 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They got there late and now are dealing with ISS schedule conflicts which is a space walk. They will not have dueling operations like that on ISS. Yeah, they're not doing a spacewalk to inspect Starliner. It was already on the schedule. Delaying Starliner return is the least impact on schedule. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:28:41 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Editorializing article titles is a bannable offense on a whole lot of forums, and for good reason. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: its not exactly stranded according to that article. Editorializing article titles is a bannable offense on a whole lot of forums, and for good reason. Leave it to somebody from NY to tell us how they do it on other forums. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:29:06 PM EST
[#29]
Boeing: "we didn't include that feature"
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:33:59 PM EST
[#30]
We laugh, but let's hope they get it figured out and get home safely.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:35:34 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Shakeout Cruise". Is that anything like a shakedown cruise? Maybe that's what they call it when it's a Boeing. Well, it's space, so there's no such thing as "down." 
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:37:01 PM EST
[#32]
If it's boeing, it ain't going (to come back)?
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:38:45 PM EST
[#33]
I was pleasantly surprised that thing got into space without losing a door or a bumper. I was unpleasantly surprised to learn they were having problems with the RCS thrusters when it came time to dock. I still do not understand why NASA has pursued the Starliner project when we have Space X, which is a vastly superior launch system with a perfect safety record and substantial economic advantage. Space X could certainly make modifications to a Crew Dragon to make it suitable for moon missions. We do not need Starliner. I will be praying for the safe return of those astronauts.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:39:36 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Leave it to somebody from NY to tell us how they do it on other forums. iunderstoodthatreference.jpg |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:40:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it's space, so there's no such thing as "down."  The enemies gate is down.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:51:16 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there enough time to set up a dragon capsule and rocket to go get them? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe they can catch a ride home on SpaceX and kick their junker to the curb. Elon should offer to go get them... Is there enough time to set up a dragon capsule and rocket to go get them? He could probably have one off the ground in 48 hours |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:55:25 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was pleasantly surprised that thing got into space without losing a door or a bumper. I was unpleasantly surprised to learn they were having problems with the RCS thrusters when it came time to dock. I still do not understand why NASA has pursued the Starliner project when we have Space X, which is a vastly superior launch system with a perfect safety record and substantial economic advantage. Space X could certainly make modifications to a Crew Dragon to make it suitable for moon missions. We do not need Starliner. I will be praying for the safe return of those astronauts. Because government and cronyism Also, I'm wondering if we have a couple boeing/nasa people ITT |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:05:45 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Leave it to somebody from NY to tell us how they do it on other forums. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: its not exactly stranded according to that article. Editorializing article titles is a bannable offense on a whole lot of forums, and for good reason. Leave it to somebody from NY to tell us how they do it on other forums. I ain’t wrong tho. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:06:50 PM EST
[#39]
Built by the best DEI possibly funded by US taxpayers
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:11:35 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you are stuck in traffic are you stranded, or delayed? Your thread title sucks and you know it. Not only that but there is a Starliner thread for this mission. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:13:40 PM EST
[#41]
"Hey, Elon...can we get a ride?"
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:14:28 PM EST
[#42]
Is the mcas still working at least?
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:17:50 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Oh, you wanted it to actually bring them back too?! Weeell that's gonna cost extra." I hope that was in the contract, and add alive and well to that. ….knowing the Gov that part might have gotten left out….. 
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:21:33 PM EST
[#44]
A few more days to let the rest of the helium leak out.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:22:50 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What dumb fucker would say something like that? Your known pile of shit isn't working, putting humans at risk, it's exciting, and "you excercised..." What in the actual fuck? If I was one of the people on that pile, if I made it back I'd kick that dipshit in the nuts as hard as I could as soon as I could. https://spaceflightnow.com/2024/06/08/starliner-crew-welcomed-aboard-space-station-news-conference/ Quote HistoryQuoted: "Wow. Yesterday was exciting, and I didn't think we could make it more exciting, and we did that today," said Mark Nappi, Boeing's Starliner program manager. "It was amazing. We accomplished a lot and really more than expected. We exercised the team, we exercised the crew and just had an outstanding day." What dumb fucker would say something like that? Your known pile of shit isn't working, putting humans at risk, it's exciting, and "you excercised..." What in the actual fuck? If I was one of the people on that pile, if I made it back I'd kick that dipshit in the nuts as hard as I could as soon as I could. https://spaceflightnow.com/2024/06/08/starliner-crew-welcomed-aboard-space-station-news-conference/ That's the sign of senior managers at Boeing. The more enthusiastic sounding, the better the bonus. That engineering staff that has been putting in long days isn't so excited. But very few will speak up or push back; that's confrontational, no matter how it's presented or how true. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:26:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If anyone blows the whistle about this......they are as good as dead. They will just be sent on the next BA trip up there.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:31:51 PM EST
[#47]
Recent Titanic tourists found out that extreme tourism might not be good thing.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:31:54 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Clickbait title. Based on the article they are not stranded in orbit unable to return…they will not return on time but are neither stranded or unable. Well it's still early. Be patient and give Boeing the benefit of the doubt they can still screw it up. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:35:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The enemies gate is down.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, it's space, so there's no such thing as "down." The enemies gate is down.Whichever way your feet are pointed, isn't it? |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:38:13 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It sounds like they were following the Soviet example of venting peroxide past the parachute lines (which made them fall apart - and caused the somewhat important capsule they were holding to hit the ground at excessive speed. (similar to dropping it from 10,000 feet or so.) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For example, engineers discovered issues with Starliner's parachute system and its wiring, much of which turned out to be wrapped in flammable tape. that was a great idea. lol It sounds like they were following the Soviet example of venting peroxide past the parachute lines (which made them fall apart - and caused the somewhat important capsule they were holding to hit the ground at excessive speed. (similar to dropping it from 10,000 feet or so.) The issue with the chutes is the tear away rate of the soft links. Nothing to due with venting or wrapping. About five years ago a corporate wide call came out hunting for someone with experience to work on those risers. I nearly threw my hat in, I was working a job I despised, and I have three decelerator design handbooks. I was apparently as qualified as anyone, I figured the work would be sorted out by testing after looking into the problem. I couldn't understand why they weren't sending proposals to the expert companies. The wiring is a separate problem. Wiring installations always get inadequate scrutiny. The work is beneath the structures folks that should be checking, and I doubt any of the current crew does more than assume another group checks icky details, instead of backing them up. Kapton insulation is one of those that crops up every few years, either because there's no tribal memory or a vendor doesn't pay attention to the requirements. And since no one gives a damn, the requirements might not be correct, or someone not qualified signs off on a substitute, or a vendor substitutes anyway. |
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