Posted: 12/22/2008 6:10:24 PM EDT
| I have enjoyed a series of computer games called Civilization since the first one came out in the early 90's. I truly enjoy a good turn based strategy game. I'm going to make this short because I am still disgusted. I was playing the latest in the series, Civilization Revolutions for the XBOX 360, when my "culture" advanced enough to create a "great thinker" named Karl Marx. |
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Oh for fuck sake. It's a fucking list of names in an XML file. Go edit it if it pisses you off so.  Edit: Nevermind, I'll be civil. WTF are you guys talking about?  Some how your PS3 was able to think on its own? Sounds like you got hackers or a bigger problem. 
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Holy shit, everyone has a bug up their ass tonight. Disregard, I'll come back tomorrow. From your responses, it seems that you might be the one with the bug up your behind.  Probably so. You would be pissed off too if you spent $35 at gamestop for a used game and played it for 3 hours only to find out that it had commie bastard messages in it. |
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Holy shit, everyone has a bug up their ass tonight. Disregard, I'll come back tomorrow. From your responses, it seems that you might be the one with the bug up your behind. Probably so. You would be pissed off too if you spent $35 at gamestop for a used game and played it for 3 hours only to find out that it had commie bastard messages in it. Spoiler: It has "communism" as a tech and "state property" as a civic. I just want to let you in on those now so you don't have a heart attack later in the game. |
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Holy shit, everyone has a bug up their ass tonight. Disregard, I'll come back tomorrow. From your responses, it seems that you might be the one with the bug up your behind. Probably so. You would be pissed off too if you spent $35 at gamestop for a used game and played it for 3 hours only to find out that it had commie bastard messages in it. I paid $55 for it, enjoyed it because it was a GAME, and traded it in a month later. |
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Well he was a great thinker, the problem was most of the things he thought of were fucking wrong. Perhaps it would help to explain that "great thinkers," "great scientists" etc. would cause beneficial effects in the game. In that case, I agree it's stupid.
Stiil, I don't think I'd be outraged or angry, I'd just think it was dumb - but I'm sure I could still enjoy the game. |
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Well he was a great thinker, the problem was most of the things he thought of were fucking wrong. Perhaps it would help to explain that "great thinkers," "great scientists" etc. would cause beneficial effects in the game. In that case, I agree it's stupid.
Stiil, I don't think I'd be outraged or angry, I'd just think it was dumb - but I'm sure I could still enjoy the game. The beneficial effects he's talking about are stuff like completing research on a technology or civic faster, etc. So it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to use Karl Marx to research, for example, Communism faster. 
edit: Great Artists/Thinkers Use them to convert enemy city, or settle them in city for +50% culture production Aesop Writing Aristotle University Charles Babbage Networking J.S. Bach Religion Fyodor Dostoevsky Industrialization Homer Alphabet Karl Marx Communism Plato Pottery Great Builders Use them to instantly complete production of any unit/building/or wonder, or settle them in city to halve the cost of all buildings in the city for future constructions. Cheops Masonry Leonardo da Vinci Invention Henry Ford The Automobile Gilgamesh Horseback Riding Imhotep Ceremonial Burial Nebuchadnezzar Construction George Stephenson Steel James Watt Steam Power Sophocles Democracy Leopold Stokowski Superconductor Great Explorer/Industrialist Use them to get a large one-time gold bonus, or settle them in city to receive +50% gold production. Roald Amundsen Combustion Christopher Columbus Banking Vasco Da Gama Navigation W.R. Hearst Mass Media Marco Polo Currency Sargon Bronze Working Tippu Sultan Space Flight Wilbur Wright Advanced Flight Great Humanitarian Use them to add +1 population to all your cities, or settle them in city for +50% population growth rate. Thomas Becket Feudalism Frederick Douglass Railroad Johannes Gutenberg Printing Press Lao Tzu Irrigation Florence Nightingale Gunpowder Albert Schweitzer Globalization Eli Whitney Mass Production Great Leader Use them to upgrade all your units to veteran, or settle them in city so your newly created units receive +3 experience points (free upgrade if the city also has barracks). Agamemnon Iron Working David Monarchy Great Scientist Use them to instantly finish research of current technology, or settle them in city for +50% science. Archimedes Engineering Alexander G. Bell The Corporation Confucius Literacy Marie Curie Metallurgy Thomas Edison Electricity Albert Einstein Atomic Theory Enrico Fermi Nuclear Power Otto Lilienthal Flight Guglielmo Marconi Electronics Pythagoras Mathematics Solomon Code of Laws |
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Well he was a great thinker, the problem was most of the things he thought of were fucking wrong. Perhaps it would help to explain that "great thinkers," "great scientists" etc. would cause beneficial effects in the game. In that case, I agree it's stupid.
Stiil, I don't think I'd be outraged or angry, I'd just think it was dumb - but I'm sure I could still enjoy the game. The beneficial effects he's talking about are stuff like completing research on a technology or civic faster, etc. So it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to use Karl Marx to research, for example, Communism faster.  I get that, and I understand how the underlying engines for these types of games operate - I'm just agreeing with his observation that based on the history of Marxist ideology and centrally planned economies and communism in general, it really shouldn't be considered a benefit for a society. That said, I also realize that it's just a silly game, so while I understand his complaint now, I certainly wouldn't let it bother me or prevent me from enjoying a game like that - I'd just snort with bemusement when I saw it. |