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Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:15:05 PM EST
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A rising CH-53 under them would be fun.
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It might ding up the rotor blades, and someone of have to clean hippy juice off them and the top of the helicopter.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:15:16 PM EST
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Just ignore them, doing anything else would entail that fossil fuels would be used and they don't want that.  Hang from a rope and get hit by a ship?  Not the ship's fault.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:18:45 PM EST
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They rigged all that and nobody noticed them doing it? How long would that take?

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A few minutes on site, everyone rides there in rented nondescript  passenger vans wearing all the climbing gear and harnesses. The vans stop on the bridge, everyone jumps out, clips on, someone runs back and forth and checks the lines, the protestors step over the edge and lower themselves down.

All of the prep work was done off site and a scouting team probably stopped on the bridge to assess attachment points weeks in advance. Tips were probably dropped to the media that something would happen today. The particulars were probably tweeted or messaged to sympathetic journalist as it happened. One or two people in nondescript private cars probably drove the bridge a few minutes before to look for cops.

Greenpeace is very good at this sort of protest.

@Blue_Monkey
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:24:45 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:29:50 PM EST
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So they've turned themselves into one of those 70s style bead doorway hangings?

Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:32:11 PM EST
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What ever happened to the green peace protesters that climb the Russian oil rigs and got arrested?

are they still in Russian jail?
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:33:45 PM EST
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On the one hand, I get why police are there. Those protestors are blocking marine traffic, hanging from a bridge, miss using emergency lanes, etc and need to be arrested. And on the other hand it would be quite easy to simply ignore them or at least simply have officers observe them until after road traffic has died down and then arrest them.

The agents of the state don’t like being left out of a party and their political masters both insist on intervention and are quite taken by tales of interventions effectiveness. The  necessity to intervene is directly triggered by the actions of the protestors. They did this knowing that it would be disruptive and that they would be arrested. They have lawyers on standby and that arrest is a badge of honor in the environmental community.

And yet the necessity to intervene is also reciprocally  created by law enforcement and political leadership. The politicians demand that something be done, and police do something, the response becomes standard procedure, the politicians avoid blame by hiding behind standard procedure and the cops act under the politicians mandate.

The fourth layer is the risk of a disordered public response. Look at this thread for examples. We can’t have ordinary citizens hauling up, beating, peeing on or arresting protestors. The immediate risk is mob violence, rope cutting, ship ramming etc. The systemic risk is any tolerance of aggressive self help/mob violence/vigilante justice.

It’s a giant expensive self justifying circle. The protest is both a publicity stunt and a marginally effective social hack of a system that feels compelled to intervene.
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HSCO tac team on site. Baytown FD, county constables and HPD. I just cleared it. Terrorists apparently still swinging in the breeze.
The ones in bold are the reason for your delay. They closed the lanes.

The underlined idiots could have just been ignored and left to the forces of nature and Darwin.
On the one hand, I get why police are there. Those protestors are blocking marine traffic, hanging from a bridge, miss using emergency lanes, etc and need to be arrested. And on the other hand it would be quite easy to simply ignore them or at least simply have officers observe them until after road traffic has died down and then arrest them.

The agents of the state don’t like being left out of a party and their political masters both insist on intervention and are quite taken by tales of interventions effectiveness. The  necessity to intervene is directly triggered by the actions of the protestors. They did this knowing that it would be disruptive and that they would be arrested. They have lawyers on standby and that arrest is a badge of honor in the environmental community.

And yet the necessity to intervene is also reciprocally  created by law enforcement and political leadership. The politicians demand that something be done, and police do something, the response becomes standard procedure, the politicians avoid blame by hiding behind standard procedure and the cops act under the politicians mandate.

The fourth layer is the risk of a disordered public response. Look at this thread for examples. We can’t have ordinary citizens hauling up, beating, peeing on or arresting protestors. The immediate risk is mob violence, rope cutting, ship ramming etc. The systemic risk is any tolerance of aggressive self help/mob violence/vigilante justice.

It’s a giant expensive self justifying circle. The protest is both a publicity stunt and a marginally effective social hack of a system that feels compelled to intervene.
And yet, if the risk of mob retribution were real...we wouldn't be seeing this protest today, now would we?

Seems to me like the system of justice is *impeding* the public peace & civility.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:34:02 PM EST
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I wonder if they know that their clothes, ropes and most of their gear is made using Oil?
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:34:11 PM EST
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Dude in the comments is saying that the grn peace idiots caused a wreck on the bridge.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:34:19 PM EST
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I need to put a tank of gas in my SUV, drive it around and burn it out, add some more, repeat.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:35:13 PM EST
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The irony of them causing traffic backups which causes more idling which causes more gas usage is surely going to be lost on them.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:35:24 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:35:27 PM EST
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I can't believe the city doesn't just tie the ropes to some bumpers and haul them up and arrest them.  Oh wait, sure I can, because Houston is a liberal sh*t-hole, and the mayor and police chief are probably applauding this.  How many millions of dollars will shutting down the Ship Channel cost the various companies that use it daily?  I bet they won't even get a ticket out of this.  Much like how Antifa gets away with everything.  Someone should run out there with a Trump 2020 flag and watch how fast they will get arrested.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:37:45 PM EST
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please tell me they attached the rope to their necks!!!!!!!>>!>!>!?!?!?!?!?
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No Luck.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:38:16 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:39:26 PM EST
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A person there posted that HPD has cars on the bridge. @m35ben
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I saw that.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:39:52 PM EST
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Homeland security maritime
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Thanks
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:41:15 PM EST
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Dude in the comments is saying that the grn peace idiots caused a wreck on the bridge.
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If they did it was behind me. I didn’t see any accidents.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:41:34 PM EST
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Those idiots better protest the medicine, food and lithium battery companies.

The refineries dont even care about fuel. The most valuable parts of processed oil are used in medicine, all advanced batteries and nearly every single food&beverage commodity packaging there is.

Liberalism is a metal disorder.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:41:46 PM EST
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How did Greenpeace window lickers arrive at their destination at the bridge?

Bicycle? Horseback? No?

I'd wager that they are part of the problem, wasting fossil fuel for the sake of worthless media whoring.

Rules for thee and not for me.
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Do you know that Oil is used in the production of that bike?  Also, riding a bike uses more oil per mile(because oil is used to produce food) than driving a car.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:42:42 PM EST
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After hanging there 24 hours it may not be easy to climb up.  If I were running that show I would get a truck with a cat head on it and pull those fuckers up and arrest them and take them to jail.  Make bail 100k each.

With my digger truck I would have them up in no time.

If you dropped the first one the rest would damn sure climb up.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:42:45 PM EST
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I can't believe the city doesn't just tie the ropes to some bumpers and haul them up and arrest them.  Oh wait, sure I can, because Houston is a liberal sh*t-hole, and the mayor and police chief are probably applauding this.  How many millions of dollars will shutting down the Ship Channel cost the various companies that use it daily?  I bet they won't even get a ticket out of this.  Much like how Antifa gets away with everything.  Someone should run out there with a Trump 2020 flag and watch how fast they will get arrested.
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Now there is an idea. Just start pulling up their streams and replace them with trump/gadsden flags. What are they going to do, climb up and change them?
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:43:07 PM EST
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And five pounds of bald faced hornets in a box.

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Back in the eighties around here EarthFirst used to spike trees with rebar that were marked for removal. They would bore holes at 45 degree angles into the trunks and pound in the rebar. Did a number on the poor arborists trying to cut them down.
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I need a drone and a taser.
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Outside of antfa the radical eco-terror crowd is some of the worst!
Back in the eighties around here EarthFirst used to spike trees with rebar that were marked for removal. They would bore holes at 45 degree angles into the trunks and pound in the rebar. Did a number on the poor arborists trying to cut them down.
I remember that.  And the tree cutters changed their methods which caused them to use more OIL!
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:43:08 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:43:18 PM EST
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@eesmith would climb the radio mast with a baseball bat to play Pinata with the pendejos.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:45:17 PM EST
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They need to get a helicopter in there to rescue them ASAP.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:55:35 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/12/2019 1:58:34 PM EST
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If one were to deploy hungry/bored rats... Would it be considered murder?  Bonus face-munching action.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:02:09 PM EST
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The irony of them causing traffic backups which causes more idling which causes more gas usage is surely going to be lost on them.
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It's not about the environment, it's about sending a message.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:03:50 PM EST
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I fully support this so long as they were suspended by their necks.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:04:00 PM EST
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No the suspended I was looking for.

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Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:04:48 PM EST
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They need to be illuminated all night and hope the wind dies enough that the mosquitos find their ass.

It would be nice if a good thunder storm moves through and lighting hits the bridge
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:05:11 PM EST
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It might ding up the rotor blades, and someone of have to clean hippy juice off them and the top of the helicopter.
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It might run better on hippie juice.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:08:31 PM EST
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A guy I went to high school with is the HMFIC of the Port Arthur/Port of Beaumont area.
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Cool
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:11:08 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:11:41 PM EST
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Cut the ropes.  Sink their ships.  Burn their headquarters down to the foundations.  Arrest their leadership and investigate every aspect of their finances and operations.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:15:48 PM EST
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So they all walked to the bridge after leaving their off-the-grid residences?
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LOL...
Fuck no, they all drove SUVs and luxury cars to StarSchmucks, bought way over priced Lattes, Selfied each other for a good hour or so while tweeting their grand plans on their Iphone 10Xs, then drove to the bridge where they risked their lives as well as any 1st responders who might have had to risk their lives if any of them got into trouble.

I don't get protesters some times, I mean we are all going to stop using or cut back using fossil fuel, because you dangled you ass from a Bridge.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:18:39 PM EST
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I was picturing something more like The Wicker Man (crappy Cage version naturally), but this is okay
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:22:17 PM EST
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Douchebag Baytown PD running radar a mile past the bridge. Gotta really fuck over the working man today.
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Holy shit, you couldn't make this up!!!  Shut down 3 lanes of traffic unnecessarily to appease some shit bag activists, bring traffic to a stand still, then set up shop a mile away to steal money from the frustrated drivers....all while allowing those pieces of shit to dangle from the bridge.  

I just can't understand why so many people have zero respect for LEO's???
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:28:35 PM EST
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Eventually they'll get bored or hungry or something.

Just leave them.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:30:16 PM EST
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Anybody know if the southbound side of Fred Hartman fully open? Working nights tonight and need to see if I need a backup plan.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:30:23 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:34:00 PM EST
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Whats the temps?  Hope it gets cold out there tonight....
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:40:03 PM EST
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Whats the temps?  Hope it gets cold out there tonight....
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91 right now
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:40:57 PM EST
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I used to work on several ships that would come through that channel. They're hanging low enough that they could interfere with radar/attennae. No master or pilot would take the risk.
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Also the idiots will likely try to fast rope onto the decks of the freighters, to continue their protest there.  Could get messy.
Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:40:58 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:42:57 PM EST
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When they decide to come back up their ropes...

Link Posted: 9/12/2019 2:44:16 PM EST
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Disrupting US shipping lanes?

"Y'all come on through.  Those obstructions are soft, and won't damage your ships."

Either that, or forcibly remove them.  Isn't it a BIG no-no to distrupt shipping?
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Yes, it’s generally frowned upon in a big way to block a shipping lane.
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