Posted: 6/5/2007 9:00:05 PM EDT
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im intrested in seeing/hearing about your bug out or bug in kits. i personally have a kit that consistes of Homland Defender glock 19 4 mags Arsenal AK-47 with under folding stock 6 mags point blank armor Vision Series with steal strick plate Blackhawk titan with hydration small first aid kit 250pieces 6 MRE 3 lights GLOCK tac light on the gun a surefire excutive elite and a MAG light 1 flint and zippo lighter with extra fuel Benchmade Nimravus 9x25 ProStaff Waterproof ATB (binos) Bushnell Night Vision Monocular with Headgear ( i would have pics but digital is broken dropped it in the water. lookin to save up for a nice on so maybe ill get some.) |
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Personally, I'd ditch the idea of armor (and probably night vision), if I was "bugging out" simply because I'm not sure I think the weight cost would be worth the potential benefit. I'd probably also ditch the maglite, and jsut carry more spare batteries for the smaller lights (unless you are talking about the little maglite). But yeah - defintiely check the survival forum. TONS of awesome information there. Here's a specific thread on the topic: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=123&t=506065 For my BOB to be perfect, I still need an iPod filled with ABBA. 
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I live in a pretty Urban environment Armor is a must when moving through streets and yes i was talkin about the mini Mag Lights and i do have extra batteries. the NVG's are a toy really i just have them packed and ready to go because i never use them. my BOB is really used to get me out of a urban enviroment and to one of 3 other properties north of me. survival forum is good i agree that is were i got the infor for my stuff but i want to see new updated stuff stuff that people actually have and lets face it the general thread gets the most hits per day |
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You should think a bit more long term as far as food goes. The six MRE's will not get you too far. That is why I plan on getting the 10/22. It is simple, reliable, and is fairly common making spare parts eaiser to come by. The .22 cartridges are lightweight and work well enough against small critters. My set up allows me to, if I am accurate and careful, kill about 1500 animals. The primer-only Super Colibris are quiet and will not alert those around me unlike a .223 or .308 round. A .22 can also be used in a self defense situation; it isn't ideal, but a few Stingers to the chest area will not buff out any time soon. Good night. |
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Hmmmnnn........ The closest comparison would be similar to the basic load-out of a special forces team member. B.A., helm., pack, Longarm, sidearm, MREs (condensed), Camelbak, Modded Sleep-System or Poncho, Gun-belt, Knife, Multi-tool, Sure-fire, Radio/Headset, Local TOPO MAP, compass, small BIC (disp.) lighter,..............ect.ect... and of course, a personal IED or two. (read grenade/mine) Because in all seriousness...........The world will have gone to total poo if I have to bug-out. 
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I am a minimalist. I carry only what I consider vital because I admit I am a lazy bastard. But I also do so for another reason......I am honest about how much stuff I can realistically pack around on my back in 95 degree weather when the humidity is so high you could wring it outta the air. That said, a general purpose rifle with a sensible number of mags is obviously one need. A pistol is also fine if you want one. My other needs are food, water, shelter and first-aid. If an item doesn't relate to one of those 4 things, it doesn't go into my pack. Food: Lightweight stuff like Mountain House freeze dried foods, jerky, energy bars. A collapsible cup for heating or mixing food. I also pack a little fishing line (hey, it's light) and some small hooks. It's pretty easy to fashion a fishing pole and find a few worms. Water: I carry only a small amount on me (usually one 20 oz bottle) but do have the canteens and water purification tabs to sustain myself for a couple of weeks if need be. Again, where I am located, water is easy to obtain. By walking 5 minutes in any direction from nearly any spot I can think of here, I have water. So I have little need to try to pack around gallons of it attached to my gear. First-Aid: I carry a personal first aid kit stocked with the items I might need for myself in a dire situation. Shelter: I keep this simple. I don't pack around sleeping bags, tents, sleeping pads, etc. I keep a simple space blanket and/or Mylar sleeping bag. I carry plenty of matches in a waterproof container. I carry fire starter. And I carry a tarp and some 550 cord. I carry a knife and a pack saw. For shelter, that will suffice for me. If I need a sleeping pad? I'll dig out a pit for my bed, softening the dirt and removing rocks. I'll pad it using spruce bows, leaves or grass. And if it's cold enough, I can build a variety of comfortable and effective shelters using either the tarp, cord and a few poles cut with my saw...or I can build a spruce bow shelter (other materials can be used as well) with spruce bows (grass, leaves), sticks and 550 cord. If I need extra heat for warmth, I'll line my fire pit with flat rocks to heat, then place them into my bed area, scooping a little dirt over them. This will give off heat for hours. Between this and my mylar bag, I can survive pretty extreme weather. Again, I carry a minimal amount of stuff. But I feel I have all that I really need. I patterned my BOB after what I have seen many experienced hunting guides in Colorado use when venturing into the mountains themselves. They don't go off wearing 200 lbs of gear on their back (unless they are on horseback and don't have to hump it themselves). They just take what they really need. I figure if the minimalist approach works in the Rocky Mountains where the weather is often far more extreme than where I am, it oughta work here. Granted, I live and work in a more rural area. So my main goal of a BOB is to simply get me back to my home in the event I can't use a vehicle for whatever reason and find myself having to flee the area on foot, or if I get stranded somewhere for a few days. I figure trekking slowly through the worst terrain I can find (which is what I'd probably do in a true SHTF situation), I can make it home in at most 2-3 days under the worst circumstances from where I'll be at 98% of the time. So I really just need enough supplies for a few days on my own. Once I make it back home, I am set, as I have a great bug-in location to hold up. It's about as far away from major urban areas as you can get in this country today and I keep it well stocked for most situations I could anticipate. I do have a few caches around and about the area though, containing vital life sustaining items (such as food) should I ever have to flee my home. That way I don't have to worry about carrying everything I own on my back. And that means I can move faster and cover more distance quickly. |