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9/13/2006 7:21:38 PM EDT
I know I should post this in the reloading forum but you guys always have the answershere
I reload all my handgun ammo for my matches with no problems but I would like to reload for my AR's, I have done some (less than 500 rounds) with 55gr soft point because they are the only bullets I can find locally (cabelas) that don't have a cannelure on them. My question is: can I use bullets with a cannelure with my taper crimp die (on a Dillons 550) or do I have to roll crimp? If so do I need to watch my load for over pressure to overcome the roll crimp? Any help would be appreciated I have a three gun match this weekend.

Lloyd 1911
9/13/2006 7:38:30 PM EDT
[#1]
never mind. reading comprehension mistake.
9/14/2006 4:34:19 AM EDT
[#2]
I don't even pay any attention to the cannuler.  In fact I try to get the bullets without them if possible.  A taper should be fine as the nech tension should do most of the work anyway.
9/14/2006 7:00:07 AM EDT
[#3]
Sir, regardless if the bullets you choose have a crimp groove, you really don't need to crimp.  The case neck inside diameter after sizing should be .002"-.003" less than the bullet OD which is adequate neck tension for most purposes.  Unless you intend to store your ammo underwater you don't need a crimp in .223 Rem.  However, if you insist, use a Lee factory crimp die in stage four of your Dillon press.  JMHO, 7zero1.
9/14/2006 9:04:56 AM EDT
[#4]
There are innumberable threads about this in the Reloading forum.

Crimping is not mandatory for most rifle ammo, certainly not .223 Remington; millions of rounds are loaded and fired every year without a crimped bullet.

You can load a cannelured bullet without a crimp.

As pointed out above, sufficient neck tension is required to hold the bullet in the case - unless you have unusually thin case necks, any standard die should work okay.

Taper or roll crimp makes no difference for .223 Remington, you can use whatever die you already own.
9/14/2006 9:09:13 AM EDT
[#5]
Use a factory crimp die and ignore the cannelure.



9/14/2006 9:12:14 AM EDT
[#6]
Or you could add your own with a cannelure tool!!
9/14/2006 9:20:40 AM EDT
[#7]
This should be in the reloading forum


Just kidding
9/14/2006 9:49:08 AM EDT
[#8]
You do not have to have a crimp.
9/14/2006 10:25:39 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
You do not have to have a crimp.


But it sure doesnt hurt anything
9/14/2006 10:26:41 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
You do not have to have a crimp.


Ill remember that on my .460 loads...
9/14/2006 10:31:03 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You do not have to have a crimp.


Ill remember that on my .460 loads...


You dont need it So what if your rounds become compressed loads after the first shot! Wont even notice
9/14/2006 10:39:30 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
You do not have to have a crimp.


Ill remember that on my .460 loads...


You dont need it So what if your rounds become compressed loads after the first shot! Wont even notice


Im more worried of the bullet being pulled forward! A jammed box mag is not a beautiful thing!
9/14/2006 11:28:34 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
You do not have to have a crimp.


Ill remember that on my .460 loads...


You dont need it So what if your rounds become compressed loads after the first shot! Wont even notice


Im more worried of the bullet being pulled forward! A jammed box mag is not a beautiful thing!

Yea, but at least those wont feed
9/14/2006 12:11:31 PM EDT
[#14]
Thanks for all the help guys! The main reason for the question is I can buy bullets with the cannelure cheaper in bulk and the are plentiful. Haven't seen fmj without the cannelure in bulk locally. I know I can buy online but with shipping it's cheaper to buy in town.

Lloyd1911