[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Bushmaster ACR (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 9/15/2010 8:33:43 AM EDT
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What will this gun do that a standard Bushmaster can not do at least as well for a lot less money? Look like the super tacticool top tier special forces agent task force operator's only gun as seen in Modern Warfare 2 
Minus heartbeat sensor anyways... TAR-21 is better. |
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What will this gun do that a standard Bushmaster can not do at least as well for a lot less money? Look like the super tacticool top tier special forces agent task force operator's only gun as seen in Modern Warfare 2
Minus heartbeat sensor anyways... TAR-21 is better. 
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let's hope not. BM's suck. Interesting. I've fired 1,000's of rounds through bushies w/ no trouble i didn't have such luck with my bushy in Iraq. i will never own one. you can count on the ACR being a pos since BM took control. hell just look at their barrel selection. |
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let's hope not. BM's suck. Interesting. I've fired 1,000's of rounds through bushies w/ no trouble i didn't have such luck with my bushy in Iraq. i will never own one. you can count on the ACR being a pos since BM took control. hell just look at their barrel selection. Contractor? |
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let's hope not. BM's suck. Interesting. I've fired 1,000's of rounds through bushies w/ no trouble i didn't have such luck with my bushy in Iraq. i will never own one. you can count on the ACR being a pos since BM took control. hell just look at their barrel selection. Yup my Bushmaster ACR is nothing but garbage, 1400rds so far (90% of that wolf and with a can) and it's been flawless, not a single stoppage. 
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I was excited for the ACR until I held one and saw the price tag. I felt as if it was nose heavy and I just couldn't justify the price. It sure is a sweet weapon though and I'd love to pick one up down the road if or when the price drops and additional modular components are out. A SBR ACR would be lovely...
ETA: Photoshop another member did. 
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Quoted: Not yet anyways.Quoted: What will this gun do that a standard Bushmaster can not do at least as well for a lot less money? to sum it up? not a damn thing If the concept had panned out completely for the price it would have been cool. But current standing puts it as cost inefficient and lacking. Wait awhile.....it might come back right. |
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Its supposed to be more ergonomic. But I found that a standard AR is more ergonomic for a right handed shooter, and the acr is made to be more for southpaw. I think a standard AR is easier to manipulate as a southpaw with the exception of the charging handle. |
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Its supposed to be more ergonomic. But I found that a standard AR is more ergonomic for a right handed shooter, and the acr is made to be more for southpaw. I think a standard AR is easier to manipulate as a southpaw with the exception of the charging handle. How so? |
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Bushies are not crap, can't stand the idiots spouting this shit off... buncha of fuckin babies that can't afford a gun they lusted over for years getting all butt hurt when it is more expensive than previously quoted, half these idiots can't even balance a check book non the less project out what the price point of new product will be... ACR is an awesome product. The company's that are pushing new innovative products need to be supported not torn down from with in...you guys are like crabs in a bucket. |
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Bushies are not crap, can't stand the idiots spouting this shit off... buncha of fuckin babies that can't afford a gun they lusted over for years getting all butt hurt when it is more expensive than previously quoted, half these idiots can't even balance a check book non the less project out what the price point of new product will be... ACR is an awesome product. The company's that are pushing new innovative products need to be supported not torn down from with in...you guys are like crabs in a bucket. u mad bro? |
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Bushies are not crap, can't stand the idiots spouting this shit off... buncha of fuckin babies that can't afford a gun they lusted over for years getting all butt hurt when it is more expensive than previously quoted, half these idiots can't even balance a check book non the less project out what the price point of new product will be... ACR is an awesome product. The company's that are pushing new innovative products need to be supported not torn down from with in...you guys are like crabs in a bucket. Going from $1500 to $3000 is kind of a big deal. You do realize that is double, right? |
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Bushies are not crap, can't stand the idiots spouting this shit off... buncha of fuckin babies that can't afford a gun they lusted over for years getting all butt hurt when it is more expensive than previously quoted, half these idiots can't even balance a check book non the less project out what the price point of new product will be... ACR is an awesome product. The company's that are pushing new innovative products need to be supported not torn down from with in...you guys are like crabs in a bucket. u mad bro? 
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Bushies are not crap, can't stand the idiots spouting this shit off... buncha of fuckin babies that can't afford a gun they lusted over for years getting all butt hurt when it is more expensive than previously quoted, half these idiots can't even balance a check book non the less project out what the price point of new product will be... ACR is an awesome product. The company's that are pushing new innovative products need to be supported not torn down from with in...you guys are like crabs in a bucket. Nice user name and very insightful post. People were discouraged with the ACR because they anticipated a different product than what it ultimately came to be. |
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Bushies are not crap, can't stand the idiots spouting this shit off... buncha of fuckin babies that can't afford a gun they lusted over for years getting all butt hurt when it is more expensive than previously quoted, half these idiots can't even balance a check book non the less project out what the price point of new product will be... ACR is an awesome product. The company's that are pushing new innovative products need to be supported not torn down from with in...you guys are like crabs in a bucket. well by all means post a pic of YOUR ACR. 
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let's hope not. BM's suck. Interesting. I've fired 1,000's of rounds through bushies w/ no trouble i didn't have such luck with my bushy in Iraq. i will never own one. you can count on the ACR being a pos since BM took control. hell just look at their barrel selection. Contractor? yeah...we had BM M4's and had nothing but problems with them. |
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let's hope not. BM's suck. Interesting. I've fired 1,000's of rounds through bushies w/ no trouble i didn't have such luck with my bushy in Iraq. i will never own one. you can count on the ACR being a pos since BM took control. hell just look at their barrel selection. Yup my Bushmaster ACR is nothing but garbage, 1400rds so far (90% of that wolf and with a can) and it's been flawless, not a single stoppage. http://www.theplaceholder.com/forums/imagehosting/544c1e0bff77aad.jpg you're right...i should have been more clear. it's an overpriced pos.  anyway...i have a pimped out ACR on Call of Duty and although it has never malfunctioned, the damage rating is only slightly above medium. 
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I was excited for the ACR until I held one and saw the price tag. I felt as if it was nose heavy and I just couldn't justify the price. It sure is a sweet weapon though and I'd love to pick one up down the road if or when the price drops and additional modular components are out. A SBR ACR would be lovely... ETA: Photoshop another member did. http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/JONNYROCKO/ACR.png I saw a couple of standard ACRs at the fun show this weekend. They were priced from $1950 to $2300. |
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let's hope not. BM's suck. Interesting. I've fired 1,000's of rounds through bushies w/ no trouble i didn't have such luck with my bushy in Iraq. i will never own one. you can count on the ACR being a pos since BM took control. hell just look at their barrel selection. Yup my Bushmaster ACR is nothing but garbage, 1400rds so far (90% of that wolf and with a can) and it's been flawless, not a single stoppage. http://www.theplaceholder.com/forums/imagehosting/544c1e0bff77aad.jpg you're right...i should have been more clear. it's an overpriced pos. anyway...i have a pimped out ACR on Call of Duty and although it has never malfunctioned, the damage rating is only slightly above medium. But the lack of recoil is so nice lol |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: let's hope not. BM's suck. Interesting. I've fired 1,000's of rounds through bushies w/ no trouble i didn't have such luck with my bushy in Iraq. i will never own one. you can count on the ACR being a pos since BM took control. hell just look at their barrel selection. Contractor? yeah...we had BM M4's and had nothing but problems with them. Like what? Blackwater used to use them but I think with different barrels |
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The reality is there is little advantage from the ACR or SCAR to the M4 / AR platform. This is one of the reasons SOCOM has shelved it.
Nothing wrong with the gun it was just no wonder cannon that most thought. The USMC and Army have determined numerous times most issues with the M4 is ammo, lack of lube and lack of proper maintenance. The SCAR rifle I shot last year was really nice and if it were not for the price tag I would surely own one. If there was a rifle out there that shot indefinetly regardless of lubrication or cleaning and was scary accurate and ultra cheap to produce it would be the new US service rifle by now. All the ACR's, SCARS, G36, sig556, etc and such have had there chance and ????? I looked at the reports of the SCAR and G36 therer was only a slight improvement over reliabilty. So at this point the piston system is no wonder platform either. So point being I will stick to my AR's and M-1A's for now until that Plasma rifle in the 40 watt range, the bad ass rifle in Aliens comes along or they bury me with my Colt SP-1 carbine. Not holding my breath for either.
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The ACR is all about being fully ambi ( except for the charging handle that is not yet available in a double sided option). Its very quick, and much more efficient when it comes to bolt catch and bolt release. Much better than the button on the side of standard ARs. But even with the BAD lever on an AR, the ACR has a slight advantage in that regard. You can swap between strong hand and reaction hand comfortably. I can do the same on my AR, but I've done it on an ACR and its a bit more comfortable. continues top rail, and piston capabilities make it nice as well, but all that you can get on an AR as well.
To get a standard AR, say a normal flattop bushy, add ambi charging handle, add ambi select fire, add FF rail with continues top rail, add piston kit, add solid stock,(some come with one, but most everyone gets a magpul stock anyway), add a BAD lever, and then add some BURIS, you will end up paying close to the same amount as a stock ACR. The difference, the ACR has all that already + folding stock capability for vehicle use + easy barrel swap and + a bolt catch/release system that is just barely better than an AR with the BAD lever + side charging capability, you cant go wrong. So there, it comes with a lot that a standard AR does not come with. Yes you can upgrade an AR and get really close if not the exact same kind of thing. Some dont care much about easy quick barrel swap, and folding stock etc. Dont even get me started on why the Sig 556 is not the right choice, or the SCAR. As for bushy's sucking...Shoot one first, and if it breaks, tell me and prove to me that is "because" its a bushy, and not because of some other thing like operator problems or just regular wear and tear on the rifle, after you have done that and you are positive that you have proven to the world that they suck, let me know because I'm sure you will have had to come up with some revolutionizing concept for explaining yourself. I love mine that's for sure! 5000 rounds without a single problem at all. 
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let's hope not. BM's suck. Interesting. I've fired 1,000's of rounds through bushies w/ no trouble i didn't have such luck with my bushy in Iraq. i will never own one. you can count on the ACR being a pos since BM took control. hell just look at their barrel selection. Contractor? yeah...we had BM M4's and had nothing but problems with them. Like what? Blackwater used to use them but I think with different barrels i remember several FTE issues. a few had rear sights that would not stay zeroed. these were new rifles btw...not war torn retreads. i realize all makers have issues, but in this case our asses were truly relying on these weapons. |
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Bushies are not crap, can't stand the idiots spouting this shit off... buncha of fuckin babies that can't afford a gun they lusted over for years getting all butt hurt when it is more expensive than previously quoted, half these idiots can't even balance a check book non the less project out what the price point of new product will be... ACR is an awesome product. The company's that are pushing new innovative products need to be supported not torn down from with in...you guys are like crabs in a bucket. Nice user name and very insightful post. People were discouraged with the ACR because they anticipated a different product than what it ultimately came to be. How so? |
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Bushies are not crap, can't stand the idiots spouting this shit off... buncha of fuckin babies that can't afford a gun they lusted over for years getting all butt hurt when it is more expensive than previously quoted, half these idiots can't even balance a check book non the less project out what the price point of new product will be... ACR is an awesome product. The company's that are pushing new innovative products need to be supported not torn down from with in...you guys are like crabs in a bucket. Nice user name and very insightful post. People were discouraged with the ACR because they anticipated a different product than what it ultimately came to be. How so? I know for me I was expecting a 1/7 barrel that wasn't a 16" M4 profile. And I wanted a railed handguard. And I wanted an adjustable stock along with the folding capability. And I wanted it for $2400. But I'm picky
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I'm waiting for the Remington style handguard. I want one configured like this (14.5" + pinned though): http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/LukeDaGook/ACRRight.jpg That is freaking awesome! I don't think the ACR is overpriced. I don't have one because I have already achieved full black rifle safe-saturation. |
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Bushies are not crap, can't stand the idiots spouting this shit off... buncha of fuckin babies that can't afford a gun they lusted over for years getting all butt hurt when it is more expensive than previously quoted, half these idiots can't even balance a check book non the less project out what the price point of new product will be... ACR is an awesome product. The company's that are pushing new innovative products need to be supported not torn down from with in...you guys are like crabs in a bucket. Nice user name and very insightful post. People were discouraged with the ACR because they anticipated a different product than what it ultimately came to be. How so? 1/9 twist barrel No quick change barrel options Priced at nearly twice what was originally expected Price is a moot point, as that's BM's decision to make. The fact that it took so long to get to the market and for there to be no quick barrel options is disappointing. The 1/9 twist barrel is just plain laughable. When MagPul was running the show with it as the Massada, there was a lot of hope it would be something down right awesome. Once BM came into the picture, lots of people lost hope. Turns out they were right. The ACR was poised to completely dominate the Ar market, the price point was the biggest issue. Many figured, "Hey it's expensive, but it'll be kick-ass" but it is basically a gas piston southpaw rifle. |
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Bushies are not crap, can't stand the idiots spouting this shit off... buncha of fuckin babies that can't afford a gun they lusted over for years getting all butt hurt when it is more expensive than previously quoted, half these idiots can't even balance a check book non the less project out what the price point of new product will be... ACR is an awesome product. The company's that are pushing new innovative products need to be supported not torn down from with in...you guys are like crabs in a bucket.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bushies are not crap, can't stand the idiots spouting this shit off... buncha of fuckin babies that can't afford a gun they lusted over for years getting all butt hurt when it is more expensive than previously quoted, half these idiots can't even balance a check book non the less project out what the price point of new product will be... ACR is an awesome product. The company's that are pushing new innovative products need to be supported not torn down from with in...you guys are like crabs in a bucket. Nice user name and very insightful post. People were discouraged with the ACR because they anticipated a different product than what it ultimately came to be. How so? I know for me I was expecting a 1/7 barrel that wasn't a 16" M4 profile. And I wanted a railed handguard. And I wanted an adjustable stock along with the folding capability. And I wanted it for $2400. But I'm picky QFT. Everyone is pushing leftover M4 contour barrels they are trying to get rid of. No one wants that junk, for that price it should come with a top shelf barrel not leftover rejects. and for a all plastic gun with a plastic handguard it should be $1650 MAX. WITH a purpose made barrel. $2K for the railed version. |
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I'm waiting for the Remington style handguard. I want one configured like this (14.5" + pinned though): http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/LukeDaGook/ACRRight.jpg That is freaking awesome! I don't think the ACR is overpriced. I don't have one because I have already achieved full black rifle safe-saturation. This one's cool too. 
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The reality is there is little advantage from the ACR or SCAR to the M4 / AR platform. This is one of the reasons SOCOM has shelved it. Special Forces Soldiers from 3rd Battalion, 10th SF Group (Airborne), conduct shoot-house operations during a culmination exercise at Fort Carson, Colo I spy a SCAR.... then again this was taken 9/30/09, so I have no clue if they are using them or not, just ran across this pic tonight. 
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