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5/11/2005 9:19:49 AM EDT
I was wondering if anyone could recommend some very simple, cheap and easy to use CAD software. From time to time I need to make scale drawings and would love some software where I could for instance, draw a box and then specify the dimensions and the softwars draws it to size. I'd also like to be able to save it as an adobe file so I can email it.

Any ideas?

Bomber
5/11/2005 9:23:12 AM EDT
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Corel Draw.  I use it in conjunction with Autocad.  I think it will fit your bill, and will export as and .ai and many other formats.
5/11/2005 9:27:43 AM EDT
[#2]
QuickCAD by Autodesk (AutoCAD people) is less than $100 .... I think they quit making it, may be able to get it REAL cheap ...
5/11/2005 9:30:45 AM EDT
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We're using AutoCAD 2004 here at school but it costs an arm and a leg. I tried looking up something for my iMac and found CADintosh for $32 bucks but couldn't find any download sites that were up and running. I'd like to find some freeware that'd run on a Mac so I could play with CAD at home.
5/11/2005 9:37:38 AM EDT
[#4]
How about Turbo CAD 10.2. seems cheap but is it easy to use?

Bomber
5/11/2005 9:48:47 AM EDT
[#5]
catia, ideas, unigraphics, jk, check out some of the student versions that autodesk puts out
5/11/2005 10:10:07 AM EDT
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catia, ideas, unigraphics, jk, check out some of the student versions that autodesk puts out



I'm running I-deas right now.
5/11/2005 10:13:27 AM EDT
[#7]
thebomber -

I've got an older version of Cadkey I could legally burn you a CD of...
5/11/2005 10:17:46 AM EDT
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catia, ideas, unigraphics, jk, check out some of the student versions that autodesk puts out



I'm running I-deas right now.



Me too.  But it sure doesn't fit the bill for low cost.

See if you can pick up an older copy of AutoCAD on Ebay or something if all you need to do is simple 2D drawings
5/11/2005 10:18:49 AM EDT
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catia, ideas, unigraphics, jk, check out some of the student versions that autodesk puts out



I'm running I-deas right now.



Me too.



Where?  Are y'all going to switch over to UG?
5/11/2005 10:24:53 AM EDT
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Me too.



Where?  Are y'all going to switch over to UG?



Not planned at this time, the company has a number of design offices across the world and is ruled from Switzerland.  There are 10+ years of IDEAS data for our products.  I know the data will migrate, but unless EDS makes us a darn good deal on software costs it isn't going to happen.  My only complaint about IDEAS is the lack of a polished user interface, and every once in a while, we will create a part that the software can't handle.  UG has the second problem from time to time as well.
5/11/2005 10:26:28 AM EDT
[#11]
AutoCAD you can get student licensed copies for $100. or friggin copies of the complete suite for $75 on yahoo auctions.

5/11/2005 10:26:29 AM EDT
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solidworks!
5/11/2005 10:31:56 AM EDT
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solidworks!



I've got a copy of that installed on my machine.  Haven't played w/ it much yet though.
5/11/2005 10:44:51 AM EDT
[#14]
I think Unigraphics has a new "budget" license bundle that is going for $12,000 or so.  

I would think an older version of AutoCAD is going to be your best bet.  
5/11/2005 10:48:00 AM EDT
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solidworks!



I am using Solidworks now after 12 years on Unigraphics and I am pretty impressed.  It is lacking in complex surfacing/lofting, but other than that, it seem nice.
5/11/2005 10:53:19 AM EDT
[#16]
There is always MS paint!
5/11/2005 11:16:04 AM EDT
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solidworks!



I am using Solidworks now after 12 years on Unigraphics and I am pretty impressed.  It is lacking in complex surfacing/lofting, but other than that, it seem nice.



That's the only reason I didn't let management switch to Solidworks.

>>>>>>>>>>>Automotive Body Designer here.  I gotta have the good stuff.  
5/11/2005 11:20:18 AM EDT
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solidworks!



Yep, that's what I use at work. It's pretty nice.
5/11/2005 11:26:04 AM EDT
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i grip
5/11/2005 11:27:30 AM EDT
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solidworks!



I am using Solidworks now after 12 years on Unigraphics and I am pretty impressed.  It is lacking in complex surfacing/lofting, but other than that, it seem nice.



That's the only reason I didn't let management switch to Solidworks.

>>>>>>>>>>>Automotive Body Designer here.  I gotta have the good stuff.  



Product development and design here.  We do lots of surfacing work as well.  Solidworks would be fine for most of the internal components in our products, but it would choke on some of the housings.
5/11/2005 12:13:26 PM EDT
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solidworks!



I am using Solidworks now after 12 years on Unigraphics and I am pretty impressed.  It is lacking in complex surfacing/lofting, but other than that, it seem nice.



That's the only reason I didn't let management switch to Solidworks.

>>>>>>>>>>>Automotive Body Designer here.  I gotta have the good stuff.  



Product development and design here.  We do lots of surfacing work as well.  Solidworks would be fine for most of the internal components in our products, but it would choke on some of the housings.



What do you use for your surfacing work? I also do a lot of surfacing (product development/design) and I have found Solidworks to be ok, but sometimes it requires some ingenuity to try and figure out how to make certain surfaces, that I've either drawn or thought up in my head, into actual 3D models.
5/11/2005 12:22:49 PM EDT
[#22]
If you had a big budget, I would go with Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire. But for smaller budgets, try to get a student version of AutoCAD, or maybe an older version of it. AutoCAD is fairly easy to learn and should do everything you need it to.
5/11/2005 12:29:16 PM EDT
[#23]
To the original question - 2d versions of TubroCad and DesignCad, can be found for less than 50 bucks.

For NewbHunter -

Naval Architect here - If you are interested in modeling complex curved surfaces - check out rhino3d.com

Mike
5/12/2005 2:48:18 AM EDT
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solidworks!



I am using Solidworks now after 12 years on Unigraphics and I am pretty impressed.  It is lacking in complex surfacing/lofting, but other than that, it seem nice.



That's the only reason I didn't let management switch to Solidworks.

>>>>>>>>>>>Automotive Body Designer here.  I gotta have the good stuff.  



Product development and design here.  We do lots of surfacing work as well.  Solidworks would be fine for most of the internal components in our products, but it would choke on some of the housings.



What do you use for your surfacing work? I also do a lot of surfacing (product development/design) and I have found Solidworks to be ok, but sometimes it requires some ingenuity to try and figure out how to make certain surfaces, that I've either drawn or thought up in my head, into actual 3D models.



I-deas w/ the Surfacing package.  "Variational Sweep" is one cool command.  
5/12/2005 3:46:41 AM EDT
[#25]
Microstation is what we use.
Microstation is a full 3D package and hauls ass on a desktop.
Acad changes their file format every two years or so, forcing you to upgrade and keep their cash flow rolling.
Most federal and state governments use Microstation/Intergraph. It must be doing something right.
5/12/2005 3:59:08 AM EDT
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What do you use for your surfacing work? I also do a lot of surfacing (product development/design) and I have found Solidworks to be ok, but sometimes it requires some ingenuity to try and figure out how to make certain surfaces, that I've either drawn or thought up in my head, into actual 3D models.



I-deas w/ the Surfacing package.  "Variational Sweep" is one cool command.  



Same here.
5/12/2005 4:05:40 AM EDT
[#27]
I think UG's surfacing is pretty powerful, but when I was working one airplane project the guy was using some graphic design software (?) to do some lofting and it looked sweet.  Not tightly controlled or highly accurate, more free-flowing, but pretty cool.  I have always heard UG and CATIA were the best for surfacing, but that might be different now.
5/12/2005 4:13:35 AM EDT
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I used to use Cadkey 6- was pretty easy to use lost my LICENSED copy I bought at school- wish I could find it...
5/12/2005 5:09:34 AM EDT
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I used to use Cadkey 6- was pretty easy to use lost my LICENSED copy I bought at school- wish I could find it...



Well - hell!  I 'spose I could send you a copy of Cadkey 97  too...

I might even still have a set of diskettes for version 6 around here somewhere.

IM me if interested.

**Disclaimer - we have upgraded to a newer version at work so I am *NOT* pirating software.  I specifically asked the software dealer and they *encourage* give-aways of outdated programs.  It's free advertising for them, and can lead to additional sales opportunities.**

Edited to add:  Neither version requires a password / lockout key.  
5/12/2005 5:12:33 AM EDT
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I used to use Cadkey 6- was pretty easy to use lost my LICENSED copy I bought at school- wish I could find it...



Well - hell!  I 'spose I could send you a copy of Cadkey 97  too...

I might even still have a set of diskettes for version 6 around here somewhere.

IM me if interested.

**Disclaimer - we have upgraded to a newer version at work so I am *NOT* pirating software.  I specifically asked the software dealer and they *encourage* give-aways of outdated programs.  It's free advertising for them, and can lead to additional sales opportunities.**

Edited to add:  Neither version requires a password / lockout key.  



I was licensed for both - and promptly lost both after getting ProE (which i never used)
5/12/2005 5:12:40 AM EDT
[#31]

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I think UG's surfacing is pretty powerful, but when I was working one airplane project the guy was using some graphic design software (?) to do some lofting and it looked sweet.  Not tightly controlled or highly accurate, more free-flowing, but pretty cool.  I have always heard UG and CATIA were the best for surfacing, but that might be different now.



I think Catia and Imageware are probably on the same level.  We'd have went with Catia here, but it wasn't available on the Win NT platform when we needed to step up our CAD program, and we didn't budget for the increased price of UNIX boxes.  One of those "The best we can do right now" situations.