[ARCHIVED THREAD] - CAG/Delta question (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/2/2012 6:02:03 PM EDT
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Or whatever their moniker is now. Are they still an "invitation only" way to get in? When I was in (see sigline) they actually had open "tryouts" for lack of a better word. Right before I ETS'd all E-5's and above on post had to go to the post theater. Two dudes in three-piece suits (hey, it was the 80's) with barely regulation haircuts and bushy moustaches introduced themselves as "Mr. so-and-so" and proceeeded to show us a slide presentation (way before Powerpoint) about Delta. Asked if anyone was interested in applying and taking a special PT test to get the ball rolling. Not one hand went up in that theater!
So, in theory at least, a freakin' cook could've "tried out" and possibly made it if he had what it took. Heard that for a number of years now it's they-call-you to see if you're interested. |
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When I was in my last brief was 01. All E5s still had to go to the theater. There was only one guy who introduced himself as Mr. So-and-so. He was still wearing a suit. He used powerpoint. It was the single most professional presentation I have ever seen. Dude's legs looked like tree trunks even in the suit. He probably could have broken most everyone in the theater in half. He probably knew it. At no time whatsoever, did he give the slightest hint of arrogance, tough guy syndrome or machismo. Those guys are extraordinary. And yes, even cooks were there. |
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Quoted: When I was in my last brief was 01. All E5s still had to go to the theater. There was only one guy who introduced himself as Mr. So-and-so. He was still wearing a suit. He used powerpoint. It was the single most professional presentation I have ever\ seen. Dude's legs looked like tree trunks even in the suit. He probably could have broken most everyone in the theater in half. He probably knew it. At know time whatsoever, did he give the slightest hint of arrogance, tough guy syndrome of machismo. Those guys are extraordinary. And yes, even cooks were there. Yeah, they are definitely QUIET Professionals. Unlike some other Spec Ops Unit......  |
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anyone can try out.
It helps to be invited to get selected. half who try out finish selection (give or take) maybe 10% actually get the invite, however. especially for officers. My info is years out of date, however. What little I have dealt with them, they struck me as very professional. |
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When I was in my last brief was 01. All E5s still had to go to the theater. There was only one guy who introduced himself as Mr. So-and-so. He was still wearing a suit. He used powerpoint. It was the single most professional presentation I have ever seen. Dude's legs looked like tree trunks even in the suit. He probably could have broken most everyone in the theater in half. He probably knew it. At know time whatsoever, did he give the slightest hint of arrogance, tough guy syndrome of machismo. Those guys are extraordinary. And yes, even cooks were there. Yeah, they are definitely QUIET Professionals. Unlike some other Spec Ops Unit......
Don't be jealous bro! 
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Quoted: anyone can try out. It helps to be invited to get selected. half who try out finish selection (give or take) maybe 10% actually get the invite, however. especially for officers. My info is years out of date, however. What little I have dealt with them, they struck me as very professional. I've heard about something like that. Where you can do everything right and still probably won't get selected. |
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When I was in my last brief was 01. All E5s still had to go to the theater. There was only one guy who introduced himself as Mr. So-and-so. He was still wearing a suit. He used powerpoint. It was the single most professional presentation I have ever seen. Dude's legs looked like tree trunks even in the suit. He probably could have broken most everyone in the theater in half. He probably knew it. At know time whatsoever, did he give the slightest hint of arrogance, tough guy syndrome of machismo. Those guys are extraordinary. And yes, even cooks were there. Yeah, they are definitely QUIET Professionals. Unlike some other Spec Ops Unit......
Wanna help me shave my arms, brah? We can smoke some weed when we get done. 
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When stationed at Ft. Bragg, one of the dipshits in my unit, driving his POV, rear-ended a HMMWV full of guys with beards/long hair wearing a mix of uniforms.
The guy riding shot-gun jumped out, handed him a card with an officer's contact info. and they hauled-ass - it wasn't an invitation 
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ACE Nah. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/10/delta-force-gets-a-name-change/64310/ Maybe it's been changed since then |
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ACE Nah. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/10/delta-force-gets-a-name-change/64310/ Maybe it's been changed since then Nah. |
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You know there has got to be at least one of them among us here on arfcom... but who? I'm sure there is....... *looks at avatar* HHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......................... I'm glad I tagged into this thread. It R lulz. I bet anyone an ounce of gold that no Delta/WTF are outed in this thread. |
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ACE Nah. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/10/delta-force-gets-a-name-change/64310/ Maybe it's been changed since then Nah. Maybe I'm clueless!
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You know there has got to be at least one of them among us here on arfcom... but who? I'm sure there is....... *looks at avatar* HHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......................... I'm glad I tagged into this thread. It R lulz. I bet anyone an ounce of gold that no Delta/WTF are outed in this thread. And I agree. 
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You know there has got to be at least one of them among us here on arfcom... but who? Because when I think of Delta, I think of guys that sit around posting on the net all day.
The only way any of the "cool guy" folks are here is if it's posting cool pics about all the outdoor stuff they do because their friends/family are sick of hearing about their hobby or to ask some obscure non-work related gun question that only pizza faced gun nerds would know or really care about in anything more than a passing manner. |
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I don't think they let just anyone into a Commander Air Group position. Your navy past betrays you. Please try to keep up with the hero worship. The video they show now is on youtube. The guy who does the presentation is actually a 79R or recruiter and he travels TDY to the different installations. They administer the APFT the following morning and immediately afterward they conduct an IQ test. You then receive an email and an information packet that you must fill out along with your personality test. This is all submitted along with a letter of recommendation and all of your past evalutations and APFT scores. There are two tryout times March and October out of those who actually get through the training they must then be selected. The selection process is unknown and is a committee of former special ops guys who determine who gets selected but no one knows how they do it. That is most of it for the initial tryout portion. That's how my brother described it to me. He couldn't get the letter of recommendation, somebody in his chain of command (Cpt., Col.) don't remember told him he didn't need to go and wasn't going to sign off on it. This was when he was at Camp Casey in Korea. He got invited again when he got stateside, but again, he said the higher up wouldn't sign off on the letter. |
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So THOSE are the guys who keep calling me. Must be my mad contracting skillz Yeah. If they need a guy who was tasked to guard an entire MLRS battalion worth of equipment with an ax handle, and hold a taxi door open while puking from the Pope AFB enlisted club to Ardennes Rd. without falling out, I think I can contribute to their mission. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't think they let just anyone into a Commander Air Group position. Your navy past betrays you. Please try to keep up with the hero worship. The video they show now is on youtube. The guy who does the presentation is actually a 79R or recruiter and he travels TDY to the different installations. They administer the APFT the following morning and immediately afterward they conduct an IQ test. You then receive an email and an information packet that you must fill out along with your personality test. This is all submitted along with a letter of recommendation and all of your past evalutations and APFT scores. There are two tryout times March and October out of those who actually get through the training they must then be selected. The selection process is unknown and is a committee of former special ops guys who determine who gets selected but no one knows how they do it. That is most of it for the initial tryout portion. That's how my brother described it to me. He couldn't get the letter of recommendation, somebody in his chain of command (Cpt., Col.) don't remember told him he didn't need to go and wasn't going to sign off on it. This was when he was at Camp Casey in Korea. He got invited again when he got stateside, but again, he said the higher up wouldn't sign off on the letter.  So your brother went through two commands that wouldn't sign off on him going to delta? |
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You know there has got to be at least one of them among us here on arfcom... but who? I'm sure there is....... *looks at avatar* HHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......................... I'm glad I tagged into this thread. It R lulz. I bet anyone an ounce of gold that no Delta/WTF are outed in this thread. Larry Vickers was Delta... I thought he had an account here, at least before everyone here got all butthurt about being called laser jet repairmen and burned themselves alive in protest... Could be wrong, though. |
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anyone can try out. It helps to be invited to get selected. half who try out finish selection (give or take) maybe 10% actually get the invite, however. especially for officers. My info is years out of date, however. What little I have dealt with them, they struck me as very professional. I've heard about something like that. Where you can do everything right and still probably won't get selected. It's true. I worked with a guy who went to their selection. He was a beast, probably the best all around NCO in our battalion. Just great solider. Physical stud, great leader, knew his job inside and out. But his downfall.. he was just an 11B in the 82nd with a Ranger tab. He went through their three week selection course. Made it through everything. Last step is apparently a commanders board or something... they said he did a great job blahblahblah, not many 82nd guys make it that far. But, they told him to go SF for a few years, try again, and then they'd take him. I guess they just wanted him to have experience outside of the conventional Army first. Another guy I worked with went to take their PT test before the selection course. He got like a 330 or so on the APFT.. they didn't let him continue on and take the selection course. He said the other guys taking the test were the biggest PT studs he had ever seen. |
| Must have been about ten years ago, before I retired. My USAR unit was conducting the annual mandatory briefings, which we traditionally did during december drills. During a break in the regular briefings, all male NCOs and officers were told to convene in the classroom for an unscheduled briefing. A tall gentleman dressed in business casual wear introduced himself as Sergeant Major [name long forgotten], of Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta, and he was there to extend an invitation to tryout for the unit. He was soft spoken and professional, and disclosed only the barest minimum of information necessary to accomplish his mission. His briefing was short, and he didn't have any visual aids as I recall. I remember thinking how cool it was that someone like this had come to our unit to talk to us (we were a USASOC unit). Came to find out after the briefing, while he was shooting the shit with some of the folks who stayed to talk with him, that he was originally from the local area and had finagled the trip in order to get home and see his family during the holidays. No one from my unit ever took up the offer. |
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I don't think they let just anyone into a Commander Air Group position. Your navy past betrays you. Please try to keep up with the hero worship. The video they show now is on youtube. The guy who does the presentation is actually a 79R or recruiter and he travels TDY to the different installations. They administer the APFT the following morning and immediately afterward they conduct an IQ test. You then receive an email and an information packet that you must fill out along with your personality test. This is all submitted along with a letter of recommendation and all of your past evalutations and APFT scores. There are two tryout times March and October out of those who actually get through the training they must then be selected. The selection process is unknown and is a committee of former special ops guys who determine who gets selected but no one knows how they do it. That is most of it for the initial tryout portion. That's how my brother described it to me. He couldn't get the letter of recommendation, somebody in his chain of command (Cpt., Col.) don't remember told him he didn't need to go and wasn't going to sign off on it. This was when he was at Camp Casey in Korea. He got invited again when he got stateside, but again, he said the higher up wouldn't sign off on the letter.
So your brother went through two commands that wouldn't sign off on him going to delta? Thats what he said. He was mad as shit, said they were fucking around with his career. First time I believe it was because he had to come stateside, and the unit didn't want to pay for his trip. He was right in the middle of his Korea tour. 2nd time was in 2003, he was in 3rdID and Iraq was kicking off. I can imagine thats why they didn't want to send him, that and the Battalion Commander really liked him. |
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anyone can try out. It helps to be invited to get selected. half who try out finish selection (give or take) maybe 10% actually get the invite, however. especially for officers. My info is years out of date, however. What little I have dealt with them, they struck me as very professional. So it's my understanding that Camp Dawson is the selection portion. You mean only 10% get the invite after selection? I'm surprised half make it through Dawson. That ~ 45 mile compass course/ruck march is a killer! |