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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:31:49 PM EDT
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So what your saying is that the uptick in moderation isn't due to brownells ownership, but the fact that we use amazon servers & they're giving us flack? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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is it really that hard for you to understand? Goatboy has specifically asked us to make sure this rule is enforced as it is leading to issues with our hosting site. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:31:49 PM EDT
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Funny how the vast majority here have no problems staying within the coc. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:32:21 PM EDT
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is it really that hard for you to understand? Goatboy has specifically asked us to make sure this rule is enforced as it is leading to issues with our hosting site. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:32:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:32:56 PM EDT
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After the tens of thousands of dollars I've spent through amazon (mostly generated from here) I'm gonna say whatever the fuck I want
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:33:52 PM EDT
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I'd be willing to pay more for my membership to have free speech, if changing hosting sites is expensive.
*I haven't had to buy a membership for three years tho. 
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:33:53 PM EDT
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You mean like, "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure."? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posting something that even remotely hints at overthrowing the current US government...in a public forum...is a monumentally stupid idea. And if your thread is blackholed over it, the staff is doing you a solid. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:33:59 PM EDT
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That rule has been in place for at least as long as I've been a member, and it predates using AWS. Even if you own the physical servers, the data center they're colocated in will give you the heave-ho if you allow posts that advocate overthrowing the US (or even a state) government. We all know why the 2A exists, but it's pants-on-head retarded to opine on actually applying it in a public forum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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is it really that hard for you to understand? Goatboy has specifically asked us to make sure this rule is enforced as it is leading to issues with our hosting site. 
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:34:25 PM EDT
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So what your saying is that the uptick in moderation isn't due to brownells ownership, but the fact that we use amazon servers & they're giving us flack? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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is it really that hard for you to understand? Goatboy has specifically asked us to make sure this rule is enforced as it is leading to issues with our hosting site. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:35:15 PM EDT
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That rule has been in place for at least as long as I've been a member, and it predates using AWS. Even if you own the physical servers, the data center they're colocated in will give you the heave-ho if you allow posts that advocate overthrowing the US (or even a state) government. We all know why the 2A exists, but it's pants-on-head retarded to opine on actually applying it in a public forum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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is it really that hard for you to understand? Goatboy has specifically asked us to make sure this rule is enforced as it is leading to issues with our hosting site. I’m just trying to understand exactly what TBS is saying here. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:35:26 PM EDT
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Dupes are allowed though. I'm gonna go start another COC #4 thread. Brb Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ar15.com and reddit are becoming too similar gotta protect that ad money I'm gonna go start another COC #4 thread. Brb 
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:35:59 PM EDT
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What is the cleanup timeframe that was agreed on before brownells starts using their website?
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:36:00 PM EDT
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The tree of liberty quote? How about discussing why the 2nd is even necessary? Are these for real!?!?  "We're pro 2A...promise! Just don't discuss why it exists or any topics where the 2A would actually come in to play." |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:36:08 PM EDT
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Funny how the vast majority here have no problems staying within the coc. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:36:49 PM EDT
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No win situation. Do nothing, GD continues to be a cesspool. Crackdown and you get this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This site is on borrowed time. I can think of multiple sht posters that would go on for months or years before getting their pee pee slapped in the past. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:36:51 PM EDT
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That rule has been in place for at least as long as I've been a member, and it predates using AWS. Even if you own the physical servers, the data center they're colocated in will give you the heave-ho if you allow posts that advocate overthrowing the US (or even a state) government. We all know why the 2A exists, but it's pants-on-head retarded to opine on actually applying it in a public forum. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:36:53 PM EDT
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What is the cleanup timeframe that was agreed on before brownells starts using their website? 
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:37:38 PM EDT
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Talking about the truth of the reason for the 2nd Amendment is not acceptable. How is the weather Comrades.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:37:44 PM EDT
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We really should only have two rules
1.) Don't be a dick 2.) Don't be an idiot By trying to get staff to define the rules even more clearly for you, we all know that you're just looking for a new line to toe. Why can't people just act like adults? |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:38:08 PM EDT
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You know how some guys write letters to the BATFE for clarification?
That's what this thread is. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:39:03 PM EDT
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Just the FBI, (as in “just the tip”)
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:40:02 PM EDT
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It depends on which mod sees it and what kind of mood they are in.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:41:22 PM EDT
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Rather than just do this in an IM where only I would benefit from the knowledge, I thought a thread would be better. COC #4 Posting comments or links in support of illegal activities including, but not limited to, threats against the life of any person, doing harm to a state or federal official, or advocating the overthrow of the government. Not a new rule....just perhaps sporadically enforced. What crosses the line? Helicopter ride Memes? Vote from the rooftops? The tree of liberty quote? How about discussing why the 2nd is even necessary? I don’t want to get banned in a grey area. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:41:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what your saying is that the uptick in moderation isn’t due to brownells ownership, but the fact that we use amazon servers & they’re giving us flack? |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:42:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apparently saying that you hope RBG dies is a COC #4 violation. I'm not saying that I hope she dies. Just making an observation from a locked thread. Nothing to see here. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:43:10 PM EDT
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in.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:43:24 PM EDT
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Funny how the vast majority here have no problems staying within the coc. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:43:26 PM EDT
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Who would have guessed that would happen? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:43:55 PM EDT
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Need to write Brownells a letter for clarification.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:45:56 PM EDT
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@Goatboy
Can you give us some more specifics on what has been said/done by Amazon to warrant all of this? Do you have plans to move the site to a host that is more open to and supportive of our community? |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:46:36 PM EDT
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Don't worry, that Knitting site is talking about overthrowing Trump. Nothing to see here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Apparently saying that you hope RBG dies is a COC #4 violation. I'm not saying that I hope she dies. Just making an observation from a locked thread. Nothing to see here.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:47:47 PM EDT
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Does this include using marijuana and illegal aliens crossing the border?
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:47:53 PM EDT
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@Goatboy Can you give us some more specifics on what has been said/done by Amazon to warrant all of this? Do you have plans to move the site to a host that is more open to and supportive of our community? |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:48:06 PM EDT
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From what I heard what he said would normally result in a warning, the problem was he had a long history and thus the ban.
It's like everyone gets all worked up and mad at the police for arresting a guy for jaywalking, until you find out the guy had 100 prior tickets for jaywalking.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:48:49 PM EDT
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In on self-fulfilling prophecy #4...
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:49:47 PM EDT
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I would say that using that quote in support of a violent overthrow of the current US government is a really, really, really dumb idea. And if you do it, you should thank the staff member who dissapeared your thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posting something that even remotely hints at overthrowing the current US government...in a public forum...is a monumentally stupid idea. And if your thread is blackholed over it, the staff is doing you a solid. Never let actual history stand in the way of good rhetoric though. "Muh tree o' liber-tah!" |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:50:45 PM EDT
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In b4 Goatboy
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:51:49 PM EDT
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From what I heard what he said would normally result in a warning, the problem was he had a long history and thus the ban. It's like everyone gets all worked up and mad at the police for arresting a guy for jaywalking, until you find out the guy had 100 prior tickets for jaywalking. https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_freak.gif |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:51:53 PM EDT
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Wait....government is still legitimate? Ewww...
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:52:04 PM EDT
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I seriously doubt they've ever said a word. It's just common sense. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@Goatboy Can you give us some more specifics on what has been said/done by Amazon to warrant all of this? Do you have plans to move the site to a host that is more open to and supportive of our community? Quoted:
is it really that hard for you to understand? Goatboy has specifically asked us to make sure this rule is enforced as it is leading to issues with our hosting site. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:52:23 PM EDT
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I seriously doubt they've ever said a word. It's just common sense. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:54:02 PM EDT
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While we're at it, go look up George Washington's letters where he discusses a "well-regulated milita". It doesn't mean driving around your town making
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:54:06 PM EDT
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Free speech violations are like liberals’ phobias with assault weapons: if you define things too narrowly some creative defiant will comply by walking the line, and scaring the sensitive fulminates.
If you keep things fuzzy you get to apply discretion and most submitizen users will self censor to a degree that is more effective and economical than bright line enforcement. “In every culture in decline, the watchful ones among the slaves, know all that is genuine will be scorned and conned and cast away.” Joni Mitchell, Dog eat dog |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:54:12 PM EDT
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Rule 4 is there for people who don't realize or care that those sort of things are already against the law.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:54:28 PM EDT
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@Goatboy Can you give us some more specifics on what has been said/done by Amazon to warrant all of this? Do you have plans to move the site to a host that is more open to and supportive of our community? |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:55:22 PM EDT
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Rather than just do this in an IM where only I would benefit from the knowledge, I thought a thread would be better. COC #4 Posting comments or links in support of illegal activities including, but not limited to, threats against the life of any person, doing harm to a state or federal official, or advocating the overthrow of the government. Not a new rule....just perhaps sporadically enforced. What crosses the line? Helicopter ride Memes? Vote from the rooftops? The tree of liberty quote? How about discussing why the 2nd is even necessary? I don’t want to get banned in a grey area. Nobody needs an AR15 to go hunting. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:55:57 PM EDT
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This suggests otherwise: Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@Goatboy Can you give us some more specifics on what has been said/done by Amazon to warrant all of this? Do you have plans to move the site to a host that is more open to and supportive of our community? Quoted:
is it really that hard for you to understand? Goatboy has specifically asked us to make sure this rule is enforced as it is leading to issues with our hosting site. He also said that back when he owned the servers, and they were hosted in a co-lo. And I doubt they ever said a word about it to him either. Seriously, it's just common sense. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:58:57 PM EDT
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I just love how every time somebody posts some retarded shit and gets banned, there is a herd of people who rush out to virtue signal and screech "Brownells".
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:59:19 PM EDT
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Not to me, it doesn't. You don't have to ask (or wait to be told), before putting in a rule that saves people from themselves. He also said that back when he owned the servers, and they were hosted in a co-lo. And I doubt they ever said a word about it to him either. Seriously, it's just common sense. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@Goatboy Can you give us some more specifics on what has been said/done by Amazon to warrant all of this? Do you have plans to move the site to a host that is more open to and supportive of our community? Quoted:
is it really that hard for you to understand? Goatboy has specifically asked us to make sure this rule is enforced as it is leading to issues with our hosting site. He also said that back when he owned the servers, and they were hosted in a co-lo. And I doubt they ever said a word about it to him either. Seriously, it's just common sense.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 1:59:30 PM EDT
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Funny how the vast majority here have no problems staying within the coc.  
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