Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
7/14/2004 5:05:34 PM EDT
Today's local paper in this small Texas town had the headlines of "story:Red Cross believes that the US is hiding terrorists prisoners all over the globe. No shit. Who gave them the clue????
CSI dealt with it a couple of weeks ago. That is the hell of a deal with the Geneva convention stuff.
We can blow the piss out of them but we can't shoot a bullet that will do the job right. The F****N
terrorists do not have a problem with what is written. While I am sure we have more than over stepped it once in a while, people seem to have a problem with dealing with the fact that
these guys don't play by the rules. Of all the numerous rants from the F****n Dems on the
treatment of the prisoners, I believe that they are lost from the facts and will likely never be able
to come back to the reality of what this war is all about. They think we should pull out, little do they
know that we are now there to stay and build one of the biggest bases in the area and that we
"will F*** up a lot" more surface and take a lot more of them F***ers out. If Kerry gets in,
it will not be long before we will be>>>>>>>>>>>>>and then some.
7/14/2004 5:09:03 PM EDT
[#1]
I can't stand David Carusso....
7/14/2004 5:16:35 PM EDT
[#2]
How can u sit through that drivel????

more crap from jerry bruckheimer. (-BHD of course)
7/14/2004 5:18:18 PM EDT
[#3]
nzz.ch/2004/07/15/english/page-synd5083723.html

ICRC fears US is hiding terror suspects

The Swiss-run International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) says it believes the United States is secretly holding terror suspects in locations around the world.

The Geneva-based organisation claims suspects reported by the US authorities as captured have never turned up in detention centres.

The ICRC said on Tuesday that the US had failed to reply to demands to provide a list of everyone it was holding.

“These people are, as far as we can tell, detained in locations that are undisclosed not only to us but also to the rest of the world,” spokeswoman Antonella Notari told The Associated Press.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said he was "looking further into" the concerns expressed by the ICRC.

"We do work closely with the Red Cross on all detainee issues," said McClellan.

Geneva Conventions

Under the Geneva Conventions, which outline rules concerning the treatment of prisoners of war, the US is obliged to give the neutral ICRC access to PoWs and other detainees to check on their conditions and allow them to send messages to their families.

The US says it is cooperating with the agency and has allowed ICRC delegates access to thousands of prisoners in Afghanistan, the US naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and in Iraq, where delegates have visited former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.

It is unclear whether the Geneva Conventions cover terror suspects, but Notari said that “for humanitarian reasons” the ICRC should be told about all detainees.

ICRC President Jakob Kellenberger made the request in January on a visit to Washington during which he met Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defence Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice.

“So far we haven't had a satisfactory reply,” said Notari.
Terror suspects

She said the US Federal Bureau of Investigation had posted details of arrested suspects on its website, but some of these people had never shown up in prisons visited by the ICRC.

Notari said she had read media reports that some people were being held at Diego Garcia, a British-held island in the Indian Ocean which is used as a strategic military base by the United States.

But she added that the ICRC had not been notified of any prisoners there.

“We just simply have absolutely no confirmation of this in any formal way,” she said.

In his report into allegations of abuse at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison, Major General Antonio Taguba found that military police there had “routinely held persons brought to them by other government agencies without accounting for them, knowing their identities, or even the reason for their detention”.

On at least one occasion they moved these “ghost detainees” around the prison to hide them from a visiting ICRC delegation, he added.

He described the actions as “deceptive, contrary to army doctrine, and in violation of international law”.

ICRC delegates visited nearly 500,000 detainees in around 80 countries last year, including almost 11,000 in Iraq.
7/14/2004 5:27:33 PM EDT
[#4]
Frankly, I didn't even read past the head lines. It just brought to mind a earlier CSI, Miami
program that I had watched and got me to ranting. But with that said, I think we will be in
the mideast for a long time and that is good. Until every last one of them is turned to sand
as far as I am concerned.
7/14/2004 6:16:46 PM EDT
[#5]
Doesn't have anything to do with your post but CSI Miami is the biggest load of crap ever.  Watched one episode where the victim supposedly died because hurricane winds picked up a bullet from her target and threw it at her.  Hmmm, let me get this straight, the wind picks up a nice dense small bullet and throws it at what, 80 fps (if that) and kills someone?  Stopped watching after that.  Also can't stand the way the redheaded guy says everything so seriously.  He must have gone to the William Shatner school of overdramatic acting.  
7/15/2004 10:35:07 AM EDT
[#6]
Yup, I know what you mean about CSI. They always have a "night time" crime, but
they don't show up until after the sun is all the way up. Once in a while it is the other way
around
7/15/2004 10:44:19 AM EDT
[#7]

The Swiss-run International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) says it believes the United States is secretly holding terror suspects in locations around the world.


I certainly hope the US is secretly holding some terror suspects, Why the hell should we give Al-Qaeda a heads up if we get an operative with information we need.


It is unclear whether the Geneva Conventions cover terror suspects


No the Geneva Conventions clearly it does NOT cover terror suspects.