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5/19/2017 8:26:05 AM EDT
That face people make when they shoot a CZ for the first time.



Have you seen CZ face?
5/19/2017 8:27:37 AM EDT
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That's a custom race gun.

It had better work.
5/19/2017 8:36:12 AM EDT
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This was my face when my brand new CZ-75 shot 4 inches high and 2 inches left at 7 yards. Included factory test target showed the same thing.
5/19/2017 8:53:08 AM EDT
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More like this:


5/19/2017 8:56:55 AM EDT
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Then there are the rest of us who realize after taking the CZ apart that no there is not sand in the trigger components it is meant to feel like 2 pieces of sandpaper rubbing together during the long mushy trigger pull.  

5/19/2017 8:57:36 AM EDT
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That's a custom race gun.

It had better work.
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Cheaper models also are applicable.
5/19/2017 9:32:27 AM EDT
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That's a custom race gun.

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I wouldn't consider a completely factory gun to count as a "custom" gun. Or is anything over $2,000 now just automatically custom?
5/19/2017 9:35:36 AM EDT
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It was funny when my FIL shot my CZ 75 and looked back at me said something is wrong with it.  I look at him puzzled and he says I cannot miss the center of the target.  Seen the face a few times now.  My fiance her go to pistol is what used to be my CZ 75 and forced me to buy a SP01 for myself.
5/19/2017 9:37:25 AM EDT
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I wouldn't consider a completely factory gun to count as a "custom" gun. Or is anything over $2,000 now just automatically custom?
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You consider that to be factory standard??

5/19/2017 9:37:58 AM EDT
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Then there are the rest of us who realize after taking the CZ apart that no there is not sand in the trigger components it is meant to feel like 2 pieces of sandpaper rubbing together during the long mushy trigger pull.  

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They admittedly come with crap triggers, but the nice part is that you can fix it for around $70 with a competition hammer and some file work on the safety. 
5/19/2017 9:44:38 AM EDT
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I like CZs but some of their fans are getting a bit weird.

And out of the box triggers on the low and midrange guns are pretty bad, probably some of the worst factory triggers for non Tupperware guns.
5/19/2017 9:50:00 AM EDT
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My SP01 has a great trigger.  Makes my 1911 RO feel like a gritty pile of shit.  Let's not even discuss how god awful striker fired triggers are.
5/19/2017 9:50:36 AM EDT
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5/19/2017 9:51:22 AM EDT
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That was my face the first time I shot a nice CZ.



You can tell the haters in here, they have never shot one.
5/19/2017 9:52:40 AM EDT
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My SP01 has a great trigger.  Makes my 1911 RO feel like a gritty pile of shit.  Let's not even discuss how god awful striker fired triggers are.
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You obviously have not shot a P320 or a PPQ.
5/19/2017 9:53:39 AM EDT
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You know, if you're going to fake a search, at least remove the URL header.


Or anyone else can do it too

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5/19/2017 9:54:50 AM EDT
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Honestly, I wasn't all that impressed with my buddy's P09. And while I love my Scorpion Evo SBR, it was an absolute turd in stock pistol form.
5/19/2017 9:56:41 AM EDT
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This was my face when my brand new CZ-75 shot 4 inches high and 2 inches left at 7 yards. Included factory test target showed the same thing.
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I call bullshit here. Every CZ I bought came with a 25 meter target, but somehow you got one at 7 yards? Riiiight.
5/19/2017 9:56:52 AM EDT
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You know, if you're going to fake a search, at least remove the URL header.


Or anyone else can do it too

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Or anyone else can do it too

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You're sucking all the fun out of life
5/19/2017 9:56:58 AM EDT
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Uhhh yeah its a  CZ Czechmate, its a standard offering factory gun
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-ts-czechmate-9mm-black-2x20-rd-1x26-rd-mags/



You should pull your head out of your ass before running your mouth boy.
5/19/2017 9:59:48 AM EDT
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5/19/2017 10:00:15 AM EDT
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I have lots of CZs.  My favorite pistol brand.

The P-09 is by far my favorite.   I have 3 of them.  

Everyone that I've ever let shoot any of my CZs  has liked them.
5/19/2017 10:03:06 AM EDT
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Does this mean I am a hipster?

5/19/2017 10:05:46 AM EDT
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I call bullshit here. Every CZ I bought came with a 25 meter target, but somehow you got one at 7 yards? Riiiight.
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No dude. I shot it at 7 yards. Factory target showed same high and off. RIF. Edge of factory target, matter of fact. But I guess on the target is acceptable for them.
5/19/2017 10:06:30 AM EDT
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You're a collector and need to post more sweet C&R finds
5/19/2017 10:07:38 AM EDT
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The first CZ I shot was a 75.  

It was a hot, sweaty, humid, tired, training night.   I have normal size hands, can shoot a Glock 21 and M9 with no complaints.  The trigger reach to the DA pull was too long, but the safety was too far away to use very well as a SA.

I loaded it, went to decock it and the hammer covered in oil slipped out my sweaty, greasy hand (from the goofy inside-out slide) and ND'd right in front of the BORTAC guys I was with.

It was the only round I ever shot from a CZ.  I cleared it and handed it back to the guy who brought it. My face was more like pissed off compared to the guy in the op.
5/19/2017 10:12:35 AM EDT
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The first CZ I shot was a 75.  

It was a hot, sweaty, humid, tired, training night.   I have normal size hands, can shoot a Glock 21 and M9 with no complaints.  The trigger reach to the DA pull was too long, but the safety was too far away to use very well as a SA.

I loaded it, went to decock it and the hammer covered in oil slipped out my sweaty, greasy hand (from the goofy inside-out slide) and ND'd right in front of the BORTAC guys I was with.

It was the only round I ever shot from a CZ.  I cleared it and handed it back to the guy who brought it. My face was more like pissed off compared to the guy in the op.
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lol. Not the arrow, kemosabe.
5/19/2017 10:13:21 AM EDT
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That was my face the first time I shot a nice CZ.



You can tell the haters in here, they have never shot one.
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I owned a 75 SAO Shadow that CZ Customs did trigger work with their competition hammer and all.  It was ok but it still had to much take up and the break was mushy with a little travel not crisp like breaking a glass rod.  With the cost of the gun and the work I was expecting more.

That was my second CZ I had work on.  I thought it would be better being a shadow but it was Meh at best.

My Wilson Combat Beretta 92G Brigadier Tactical (with trigger job) is much nicer.  I wish it wasn't DA/SA but it is by far the best shooting 9mm I have had.
5/19/2017 10:15:47 AM EDT
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No dude. I shot it at 7 yards. Factory target showed same high and off. RIF. Edge of factory target, matter of fact. But I guess on the target is acceptable for them.
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You said you were shooting the same POI off center at 7 yds as the factory target showed at 25 meters. Thus the BS flag
5/19/2017 10:20:52 AM EDT
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You said you were shooting the same POI off center at 7 yds as the factory target showed at 25 meters. Thus the BS flag
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No dude. I shot it at 7 yards. Factory target showed same high and off. RIF. Edge of factory target, matter of fact. But I guess on the target is acceptable for them.
You said you were shooting the same POI off center at 7 yds as the factory target showed at 25 meters. Thus the BS flag
No, that's not what he said.  Go back and read the post.

I love my CZ-75BD Police and SP-01.  They have both however had their trigger pulls fixed with about $100 worth of Cajun parts and some polishing.
5/19/2017 10:26:55 AM EDT
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I like CZs fine.  P07 and P09 in my stable.

But the only time I've made an O face after shooting a handgun the first time was when I got my STI DVI 3 Gun.
5/19/2017 10:35:07 AM EDT
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I kind of want a CZ75, I want a Hi-power more though.
5/19/2017 10:36:16 AM EDT
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Uhhh yeah its a  CZ Czechmate, its a standard offering factory gun
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-ts-czechmate-9mm-black-2x20-rd-1x26-rd-mags/

http://2ht1mik98ka4dogie28vqc4y.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/CZ-Czechamte-Profile.jpg

You should pull you head out of your ass before running your mouth boy.
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You consider that to be factory standard??
Uhhh yeah its a  CZ Czechmate, its a standard offering factory gun
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-ts-czechmate-9mm-black-2x20-rd-1x26-rd-mags/

http://2ht1mik98ka4dogie28vqc4y.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/CZ-Czechamte-Profile.jpg

You should pull you head out of your ass before running your mouth boy.
The gun you posted is listed as $3,317 on CZ's web site so I suppose you could call it a "standard offering".  I would think you should feel that way, but spending $3,317 on most any factory race gun should do the same.

I have a 75B and it is a very good gun, I like it about as much as my Sig 229, 92FS, Hi-Power and various Glocks. But I don't understand this unbridled fanboism going on. It is a good gun but it is not my favorite gun.
5/19/2017 10:36:24 AM EDT
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You said you were shooting the same POI off center at 7 yds as the factory target showed at 25 meters. Thus the BS flag
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Give it a rest. It shot high and left at 7 yards and high and left at 25, per the factory target. Shots were on the edge of the factory target.

Having to deal with unregulated sights, drift the rear, change the front which entails buying  a new front sight and having it drilled.

I really tried to like it. But the PITA sight issue plus long DA were too much for me. You shouldn't have to buy an "awesome" gun, then turn around and send it off for work.
5/19/2017 10:39:59 AM EDT
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For $3,317 I would think you should feel that way, but spending #3,317 on most any factory race gun should do the same.
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$3,300 is cheap for a out of the box race gun with mags and accessories. Most START around $4k for just the gun, add a few very expensive mags, optic, accessories, etc and it jumps in the $5k-6k range easily.
5/19/2017 10:40:41 AM EDT
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I've had that face...
I have a few of them.
5/19/2017 10:41:32 AM EDT
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The first CZ I shot was a 75.  

It was a hot, sweaty, humid, tired, training night.   I have normal size hands, can shoot a Glock 21 and M9 with no complaints.  The trigger reach to the DA pull was too long, but the safety was too far away to use very well as a SA.

I loaded it, went to decock it and the hammer covered in oil slipped out my sweaty, greasy hand (from the goofy inside-out slide) and ND'd right in front of the BORTAC guys I was with.

It was the only round I ever shot from a CZ.  I cleared it and handed it back to the guy who brought it. My face was more like pissed off compared to the guy in the op.
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I chopped myself in the leg with a tramontina machete and somehow didn't blame them for it.  I still use and recommend their tools.  
5/19/2017 10:41:44 AM EDT
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I owned a 75 SAO Shadow that CZ Customs did trigger work with their competition hammer and all.  It was ok but it still had to much take up and the break was mushy with a little travel not crisp like breaking a glass rod.  With the cost of the gun and the work I was expecting more.

That was my second CZ I had work on.  I thought it would be better being a shadow but it was Meh at best.

My Wilson Combat Beretta 92G Brigadier Tactical (with trigger job) is much nicer.  I wish it wasn't DA/SA but it is by far the best shooting 9mm I have had.
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That was my face the first time I shot a nice CZ.



You can tell the haters in here, they have never shot one.
I owned a 75 SAO Shadow that CZ Customs did trigger work with their competition hammer and all.  It was ok but it still had to much take up and the break was mushy with a little travel not crisp like breaking a glass rod.  With the cost of the gun and the work I was expecting more.

That was my second CZ I had work on.  I thought it would be better being a shadow but it was Meh at best.

My Wilson Combat Beretta 92G Brigadier Tactical (with trigger job) is much nicer.  I wish it wasn't DA/SA but it is by far the best shooting 9mm I have had.
I have a 75sa.
If you have the competition trigger you can remove a lot of the takeup and over travel. But you may give up reliability. Mine was as tight as you could get it, but I was having problems with the trigger reset, found out a single flake of I burned powder would keep the trigger from resetting.
I'll take a touch of takeup .
5/19/2017 10:43:53 AM EDT
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$3,300 is cheap for a out of the box race gun with mags and accessories. Most START around $4k for just the gun, add a few very expensive mags, optic, accessories, etc and it jumps in the $5k-6k range easily.
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For $3,317 I would think you should feel that way, but spending #3,317 on most any factory race gun should do the same.
$3,300 is cheap for a out of the box race gun with mags and accessories. Most START around $4k for just the gun, add a few very expensive mags, optic, accessories, etc and it jumps in the $5k-6k range easily.
I am NOT saying that price is out of line at all. I have owned race guns that cost that much and for that much coin it damned well better put a fucking smile on my face.
5/19/2017 10:46:17 AM EDT
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Now you're just clowning around...



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5/19/2017 10:52:52 AM EDT
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The Orange and The Shadow 2 are nice guns but you do pay for it

the regular offerings ? Meh I'd rather have a 92FS or a P226 if I had o have a DA/SA gun
5/19/2017 10:52:58 AM EDT
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No, that's not what he said.  Go back and read the post.

I love my CZ-75BD Police and SP-01.  They have both however had their trigger pulls fixed with about $100 worth of Cajun parts and some polishing.
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No dude. I shot it at 7 yards. Factory target showed same high and off. RIF. Edge of factory target, matter of fact. But I guess on the target is acceptable for them.
You said you were shooting the same POI off center at 7 yds as the factory target showed at 25 meters. Thus the BS flag
No, that's not what he said.  Go back and read the post.

I love my CZ-75BD Police and SP-01.  They have both however had their trigger pulls fixed with about $100 worth of Cajun parts and some polishing.
It was pretty vague and could be read either way.
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This was my face when my brand new CZ-75 shot 4 inches high and 2 inches left at 7 yards. Included factory test target showed the same thing.
5/19/2017 10:59:22 AM EDT
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I really want to go shoot my new (to me) P-07 and it will be even better when my Omega 9K is approved.

Honestly, if it shoots as good as I am thinking it it will (this is my first CZ) a few of my Glock's will probably be getting sold.
5/19/2017 11:08:08 AM EDT
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I've still never tried one. I like the feel of the CZ-75. If I ever get one, that would probably be it. I held a P-09 and it didn't feel good in my hand. 
5/19/2017 11:16:54 AM EDT
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My face was a little different when I realized that my new P07 couldn't go through a whole magazine without the slide locking back prematurely at least once, and probably 3 or 4 times.
5/19/2017 11:18:06 AM EDT
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This was my face:
5/19/2017 11:22:53 AM EDT
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I kind of want a CZ75, I want a Hi-power more though.
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I have a couple of hi-powers.  They are nice and fit the hand better than any other gun made, but dat trigger reset....

CZ is similar but the continued advancement of it over the years has made it better, imo.  If the HP had been modified, customized and used in competition as much I'm sure there would be trigger options that would make it also a great modern pistol.  But it hasn't and it's not.
5/19/2017 11:24:42 AM EDT
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@Maynard

You are a man of impeccable taste and class. You can't expect the unwashed masses to understand.
5/19/2017 11:38:36 AM EDT
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@Maynard

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Thank you, Sir, for your very kind words. I appreciate them greatly.



Let's see your CZs!

5/19/2017 11:49:59 AM EDT
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5/19/2017 11:53:32 AM EDT
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Thank you, Sir, for your very kind words. I appreciate them greatly.



Let's see your CZs!

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@Maynard

You are a man of impeccable taste and class. You can't expect the unwashed masses to understand.
Thank you, Sir, for your very kind words. I appreciate them greatly.



Let's see your CZs!

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