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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:43:41 AM EDT
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Trust me. The Cali hippies will soon be taking bottles of urine to reclamation centers in order to "do their part."
Heard it first here. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:44:15 AM EDT
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Colorado River is operating in depletion mode currently, under the compacts the upstream states are going to get screwed hard first. Is most likely going to get worse next couple years. Everyone in the water community has been warning about this for last decade. Guess what, it's here.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:45:30 AM EDT
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Got to keep pumping NorCal water to the SoCal FSA...
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:45:56 AM EDT
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Well it might be good for my job this coming summer. Lack of rain certainly helped last year.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:46:28 AM EDT
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Districts in this county have been groundwater banking like crazy for 30 years. They have surplus they're offering at $600/af to those that didn't plan ahead sand rely on the State Water Project. Sucks to be them.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:50:02 AM EDT
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Well it might be good for my job this coming summer. Lack of rain certainly helped last year. With that username, I think more fluids would be a good thing in your life. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:51:12 AM EDT
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Well it might be good for my job this coming summer. Lack of rain certainly helped last year. CalFire is supposed to be starting seasonals really early this year. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:52:04 AM EDT
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Districts in this county have been groundwater banking What does that mean? |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:52:05 AM EDT
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Fucking Sacramento. They shove a high speed rail project down our throats that no one wants except the Brown appointees who will get rich on a taxpayer paid boondoggle. The fucking thing will NEVER get built not even the utterly useless first section between Madeira and Bakersfield. It will never pass the EIR. So why not build a desalinization plant instead of useless train projects? Why not fix the drought bullshit forever? This state reeks of corruption and cheats. To say our ruling elite political class are swine is to insult pigs. 
This used to be a great place to live. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:53:31 AM EDT
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Fucking Sacramento. They shove a high speed rail project down our throats that no one wants except the Brown appointees who will get rich on a taxpayer paid boondoggle. The fucking thing will NEVER get built not even the utterly useless first section between Madeira and Bakersfield. It will never pass the EIR. So why not build a desalinization plant instead of useless train projects? Why not fix the drought bullshit forever? This state reeks of corruption and cheats. To say our ruling elite political class are swine is to insult pigs.
This used to be a great place to live. They don't want to to build the required power plants for that to work. Typical liberal idiot situation. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:54:23 AM EDT
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Well I always though there must be something funny in the water out there for the entire state to be as wacky as it is. So maybe a water shortage isn't such a bad thing.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:55:16 AM EDT
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This is why we keep 2.6-4 million illegals in Ca. It helps us remove excess water
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:55:26 AM EDT
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Fuckin Brawndo, it's got electrolytes yo
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:55:55 AM EDT
[#14]
They have a nuke plant
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:58:45 AM EDT
[#15]
We have lots of water in this LA....I'll trade 'em all they want for .22 ammo
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:59:34 AM EDT
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What does that mean? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Districts in this county have been groundwater banking What does that mean? Establishing vast percolation areas where excess surface water is stored in the existing aquifers for production when needed via conventional water wells. Provides good habitat, too. A lot of water has been stored this way. City of Bakersfield, kern County Water Agency, and others store water this way. Pioneers on groundwater banking. Here's a map. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 12:03:14 PM EDT
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I'll do my part and personally piss on any liberal in the state.*
Offer not valid if liberal is on fire. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 12:03:29 PM EDT
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Colorado River is operating in depletion mode currently, under the compacts the upstream states are going to get screwed hard first. Is most likely going to get worse next couple years. Everyone in the water community has been warning about this for last decade. Guess what, it's here. Just like they warned about St. Louis... |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 12:03:30 PM EDT
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Just talked to my brother, who lives on theeast side of the sierras in Nevada.
He said they just got 8 inches of wet snow a couple of days ago. I know that traditionally Feb is the snowiest month of the year in that part of Nevada. They have plenty of time to get out of the drought cycle. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 12:04:31 PM EDT
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They have a nuke plant Been closed for a few years now. 
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Posted: 2/2/2014 12:09:26 PM EDT
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With all the snow storms there should be plenty of water in the Colorado come spring time.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 12:12:59 PM EDT
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Been closed for a few years now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They have a nuke plant Been closed for a few years now. SMUD is closed, Diablo Canyon is operating, San Onofre is shut down. running reduced capacity. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 12:13:54 PM EDT
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Its going to get ugly real fast here in Northern California. No snow pack, no water in the reservoirs, and the South wants what little is here.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 12:15:38 PM EDT
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Fucking Sacramento. They shove a high speed rail project down our throats that no one wants except the Brown appointees who will get rich on a taxpayer paid boondoggle. The fucking thing will NEVER get built not even the utterly useless first section between Madeira and Bakersfield. It will never pass the EIR. So why not build a desalinization plant instead of useless train projects? Why not fix the drought bullshit forever? This state reeks of corruption and cheats. To say our ruling elite political class are swine is to insult pigs.
This used to be a great place to live. Preach it! Got sick of the place. Petitions don't mean squat to the politicians. Nor does votes. Twice I've seen things voted down in SF and the politicians pushed it through anyway. The only thing politicians respond to is their reelection or recall votes. The state is broke and the libturds voted in new taxes. Great. More businesses fled and those with ducats fled. Tough luck CA! Expect a mass migration out of the state as the water runs out. We need to build a wall at the Sierra Nevadas to keep the infection within. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 12:16:16 PM EDT
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Time to break out the check books and get desalinating.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 12:17:12 PM EDT
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You have an ocean. Use it.
Time to put desalination plant plans in high gear. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 12:34:37 PM EDT
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Nah. We are fine. We got .20 inches of rain in January.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 12:42:08 PM EDT
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On a smaller scale, Texas is in store for draconian water restrictions this summer. Last summer was very dry. We have even less water now than a year ago at this time. Most lakes are at less than 50% capacity and some are essentially dry. Unless we get hurricane type rains every other week from now until summer, Texas homeowners are going to watch their yards die.
Failure to plan. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 12:56:37 PM EDT
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On a smaller scale, Texas is in store for draconian water restrictions this summer. Last summer was very dry. We have even less water now than a year ago at this time. Most lakes are at less than 50% capacity and some are essentially dry. Unless we get hurricane type rains every other week from now until summer, Texas homeowners are going to watch their yards die. Failure to plan. I've never understood why people water their lawns like they do. It's an endless task that accomplishes nothing of value and wastes water. Additionally, all the fertilizer and chemicals pollute our groundwater. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:21:19 PM EDT
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On a smaller scale, Texas is in store for draconian water restrictions this summer. Last summer was very dry. We have even less water now than a year ago at this time. Most lakes are at less than 50% capacity and some are essentially dry. Unless we get hurricane type rains every other week from now until summer, Texas homeowners are going to watch their yards die. Failure to plan. Beyond that the aquifers in TX are going down every year. A lot of land in TX that used to be irrigate cropland is now either not irrigated at all or farmed with greatly reduced irrigation. What this nation needs is to use unlimited immigration to increase the population and therefore the demand for everything including water. That should help the situation. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:23:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Colorado River is operating in depletion mode currently, under the compacts the upstream states are going to get screwed hard first. Is most likely going to get worse next couple years. Everyone in the water community has been warning about this for last decade. Guess what, it's here. Lower Colorado here in central Texas is in a deep cleft. With no real climatic changes we will hit drought of record in May. As it stands we are not going to be releasing water down stream to farmers. Despite the $2 billion passed by the legislature to help fund projects it is going to be a bit parched for a while.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:25:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Districts in this county have been groundwater banking like crazy for 30 years. They have surplus they're offering at $600/af to those that didn't plan ahead sand rely on the State Water Project. Sucks to be them. No shortage here. Damn, $600 an acre foot ain't cheap.  The flip side is that higher prices will drive innovation and investment in technology. Good for your county, 6P's in effect.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:30:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never understood why people water their lawns like they do. It's an endless task that accomplishes nothing of value and wastes water. Additionally, all the fertilizer and chemicals pollute our groundwater. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: On a smaller scale, Texas is in store for draconian water restrictions this summer. Last summer was very dry. We have even less water now than a year ago at this time. Most lakes are at less than 50% capacity and some are essentially dry. Unless we get hurricane type rains every other week from now until summer, Texas homeowners are going to watch their yards die. Failure to plan. I've never understood why people water their lawns like they do. It's an endless task that accomplishes nothing of value and wastes water. Additionally, all the fertilizer and chemicals pollute our groundwater. As an agronomist and a commercial landscaper, what you describe is just piss-poor management, not a real indictment of a lawn. Benefits include up to 20% of the value of your property, lessening of heat island effect and foundation stabilization. People do overwater their lawns. Having irrigation meters and charging the snot out of people for the water tends to dampen the ardor for overwatering. Works in the commercial world at least.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:31:21 PM EDT
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This didn't happen overnight. They should have been coming up with alternative water sources years ago. They are a coastal state for crying out loud.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:35:25 PM EDT
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This didn't happen overnight. They should have been coming up with alternative water sources years ago. They are a coastal state for crying out loud. Exactly. This is like Georgia crying over the Tennessee River. They have the Atlantic Ocean. Figure it out. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:38:40 PM EDT
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They don't want to to build the required power plants for that to work. Typical liberal idiot situation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fucking Sacramento. They shove a high speed rail project down our throats that no one wants except the Brown appointees who will get rich on a taxpayer paid boondoggle. The fucking thing will NEVER get built not even the utterly useless first section between Madeira and Bakersfield. It will never pass the EIR. So why not build a desalinization plant instead of useless train projects? Why not fix the drought bullshit forever? This state reeks of corruption and cheats. To say our ruling elite political class are swine is to insult pigs.
This used to be a great place to live. They don't want to to build the required power plants for that to work. Typical liberal idiot situation. It would be cheaper to build the infrastructure to transport fresh water from further sources than build, maintain, and operate desalination plants. Those things aint cheap. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:40:46 PM EDT
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The drought is highlighting the traditional tensions between groups that claim the state's limited water for their own priorities — farmers, city residents and conservationists. Dumbasses better learn that food comes first. Wonder who will win. funny thing...in the paper TODAY they were explaining how this has happened many times before out there ---like 800 years ago and thousand years ago....but its mans fault... |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:42:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:44:13 PM EDT
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On a smaller scale, Texas is in store for draconian water restrictions this summer. Last summer was very dry. We have even less water now than a year ago at this time. Most lakes are at less than 50% capacity and some are essentially dry. Unless we get hurricane type rains every other week from now until summer, Texas homeowners are going to watch their yards die. Failure to plan. Wrong state. Nobody cared. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:44:16 PM EDT
[#40]
Good. Suck it Cali
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:44:48 PM EDT
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On a smaller scale, Texas is in store for draconian water restrictions this summer. Last summer was very dry. We have even less water now than a year ago at this time. Most lakes are at less than 50% capacity and some are essentially dry. Unless we get hurricane type rains every other week from now until summer, Texas homeowners are going to watch their yards die. Failure to plan. As long as they don't start a land grab. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:46:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:It would be cheaper to build the infrastructure to transport fresh water from further sources than build, maintain, and operate desalination plants. Those things aint cheap. /this California business are a lot of things but they're not stupid. Millions and millions of Americans have moved to California leaving their water behind but bringing their thirst. My neighbors are a gay male couple from Smyrna. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:46:26 PM EDT
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Preach it! Got sick of the place. Petitions don't mean squat to the politicians. Nor does votes. Twice I've seen things voted down in SF and the politicians pushed it through anyway. The only thing politicians respond to is their reelection or recall votes. The state is broke and the libturds voted in new taxes. Great. More businesses fled and those with ducats fled. Tough luck CA! Expect a mass migration out of the state as the water runs out. We need to build a wall at the Sierra Nevadas to keep the infection within. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fucking Sacramento. They shove a high speed rail project down our throats that no one wants except the Brown appointees who will get rich on a taxpayer paid boondoggle. The fucking thing will NEVER get built not even the utterly useless first section between Madeira and Bakersfield. It will never pass the EIR. So why not build a desalinization plant instead of useless train projects? Why not fix the drought bullshit forever? This state reeks of corruption and cheats. To say our ruling elite political class are swine is to insult pigs.
This used to be a great place to live. Preach it! Got sick of the place. Petitions don't mean squat to the politicians. Nor does votes. Twice I've seen things voted down in SF and the politicians pushed it through anyway. The only thing politicians respond to is their reelection or recall votes. The state is broke and the libturds voted in new taxes. Great. More businesses fled and those with ducats fled. Tough luck CA! Expect a mass migration out of the state as the water runs out. We need to build a wall at the Sierra Nevadas to keep the infection within. Lefties own the state and the courts. It's functionally a one party state. The initiative process is a joke. The people vote for defense of traditional marriage, English only in schools, and the courts just turn it over. The ratchet only works in one direction here. What gets me is the voters who continually vote for bonds and tax increases on themselves. WTF is wrong with people! Every fucking ballot has at least one bond to go to edumacation. We spend more than almost any other state and rank at the bottom on achievement. Gee, so I guess the solution is to throw more money at it. Teachers unions here make Al Capone look like a school boy. The low-information voter is gonna end our noble project of self government. CA goes first. 
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:46:38 PM EDT
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Fuck LA
Let Barbara Streisand's yard get brown. Whiskey is for drinking, water is for fighting over |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:48:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fucking Sacramento. They shove a high speed rail project down our throats that no one wants except the Brown appointees who will get rich on a taxpayer paid boondoggle. The fucking thing will NEVER get built not even the utterly useless first section between Madeira and Bakersfield. It will never pass the EIR. So why not build a desalinization plant instead of useless train projects? Why not fix the drought bullshit forever? This state reeks of corruption and cheats. To say our ruling elite political class are swine is to insult pigs. This used to be a great place to live. Because it is a whole lot easier to control the subjects when resources are limited. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:49:27 PM EDT
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You have an ocean. Use it. Time to put desalination plant plans in high gear. If (when) market forces are allowed to operate without interference... or rather, when the people are allowed to feel those forces operate without masquerade from the government, then I suspect desalination will get a close look. It is inevitable. Current US pop is 310? million. It'll be 500 million or more before I die. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:50:09 PM EDT
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I grew up in N California not far from Lake Orville. Lake Orville is the second biggest reservoir in CA. Been following this story for a few months as I have a few friends in the AG industry (Rice,Almonds,Tomatoes).
Here is an excerpt from the local paper last month "Meanwhile, Oroville and Shasta lakes are each 36 percent full, about half of normal for this time of year." 
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:51:37 PM EDT
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The best part is that the cost of produce across America is going to rise ... which will bring more money into the state.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:56:35 PM EDT
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No. Fuck no. Impossible. Agriculture consumes 80% of the water here. If they cut 10% that would cover a 50% reduction in home and industrial use. California grows the nations fruits and vegetables and the farmers have a pretty powerful lobby. Consumers not so much. <a href="http://s104.photobucket.com/user/AR-15_Paul/media/California%20Facts%20Graphs/FarmersCompensation.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/California%20Facts%20Graphs/FarmersCompensation.jpg</a> Quote HistoryQuoted:
desalinization No. Fuck no. Impossible. Agriculture consumes 80% of the water here. If they cut 10% that would cover a 50% reduction in home and industrial use. California grows the nations fruits and vegetables and the farmers have a pretty powerful lobby. Consumers not so much. <a href="http://s104.photobucket.com/user/AR-15_Paul/media/California%20Facts%20Graphs/FarmersCompensation.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/California%20Facts%20Graphs/FarmersCompensation.jpg</a> Farms use about 80% of the water and contribute 3% to the state economy. On top of that most farms use outdated irrigation techniques and won't or can't afford to upgrade to more efficient irrigation systems. Things are going to get interesting this summer with fires, cost of water, and cost of produce. It will all be fine because we have a train to nowhere instead and fiensteins hubby is getting paid very nicely. 4 1\2 more years until my business, my taxes, and myself stop contributing to the FSA. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 1:57:50 PM EDT
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Just talked to my brother, who lives on theeast side of the sierras in Nevada. He said they just got 8 inches of wet snow a couple of days ago. I know that traditionally Feb is the snowiest month of the year in that part of Nevada. They have plenty of time to get out of the drought cycle. Not sure if serious. |
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