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8/15/2007 6:20:52 PM EDT
My wife's watching VH1 Classics. They're showing a Cat Stevens "concert".

Now I know why I was never a fan. Lousy, creepy, faggy music.
8/15/2007 6:42:58 PM EDT
[#1]
Islam doesn't allow musical instruments ... figures.
8/19/2007 6:18:58 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
I like his music.


+72 Virgins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8/19/2007 6:20:45 PM EDT
[#3]
I'm being followed by a po-lice car,
PO-lice car police car.
8/19/2007 6:22:58 PM EDT
[#4]
"Wild World" is actually a pretty good song.  Other than that, I have no use for him or his music.
8/19/2007 6:32:41 PM EDT
[#5]
I like his music too.  So what if he turned into a zealot.

Many years ago I briefly got all uppity about musicians whose beliefs I didn't agree with.  Then, I realized that such a mindset could quickly turn you into one unhappy bastard, and just enjoyed the music, and never looked into their personal beliefs.  If they got a lot of media attention, I ignored it and just enjoyed the music.

I mean, how can you not like Bulls on Parade.  It rocks, but the musicians behind it are unprincipled hypocritical assholes, and not people I'd want to sit down and have a beer with.

Then there are people like Leo Kottke, whose music I love.  He's for the most part on the opposite end of my political spectrum being that he is quite liberal, but after going to a few of his concerts he impresses me as a kind and friendly gentleman, and someone I wouldn't mind having a beer with.
8/19/2007 6:41:51 PM EDT
[#6]
I love his music. Hate his political position. Can't say I am contributing financially to his politics since I have not bought  any music in years. Still listen to the same old cassette tapes in my Jeep.
8/19/2007 6:44:19 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Cat is an asshat. He tried out every religion before finally settling for Islam.

Right before we invaded Iraq, He did an interview in which he "sang"  his hit "Peace Train". He was in full Islamic dress and said Islam did not allow musical instruments, so he sat in a chair and beat out a rhythm, and sort of chanted the lyrics to peace train.


i186.photobucket.com/albums/x71/1895mauser/cat90.jpg



Why does he think Islam forbids musical instruments?
8/19/2007 7:01:47 PM EDT
[#8]
Certain sects of it do.  I have heard this a number of times.
8/19/2007 7:07:15 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Cat is an asshat. He tried out every religion before finally settling for Islam.

Right before we invaded Iraq, He did an interview in which he "sang"  his hit "Peace Train". He was in full Islamic dress and said Islam did not allow musical instruments, so he sat in a chair and beat out a rhythm, and sort of chanted the lyrics to peace train.



Why does he think Islam forbids musical instruments?



Quoted:
Certain sects of it do.  I have heard this a number of times.


www.wakeup.org/anadolu/05/4/mustafa_sabri_en.html

Edited segments below:


Whether it is through natural/physiological means or instruments, or tunes, depending on the kind or the different ways, music may be forbidden or disliked or even allowed according to some Islamic religious edicts. However, it is also known that Islam avoids absolutely accepting or remaining indifferent to the issue of music. It is this latter fact, ie, a sort of position by Islam, of cautioning by not allowing music, or encouraging it without reservation.

Firstly, music is a useless activity which in fact, is a state of passiveness. As we will explain in another article about gambling, the fact that such an inactivity, which is inherent in those so called professions, did not escape the attention of our religion.

Secondly, the benefit and pleasure taken from music involves a meaning of deep slavery in passion. Since Islam is the only enemy of passiveness and slavery in passion, an important duty of Islam is to search their traces in unexpected hide-outs.



During listening to music, people would not be doing anything for the good of humanity. They would cause, instead, a lot of money to change hands. And, in return for the money, what do these people get? Nothing! Consider this: Suppose a shoemaker sells you a shoe. And you wear it and walk to your shop. Let us say you sell books in your shop. You both make a profit and help knowledge and science spread in your country. This way you would serve in a chain of benefits in the society by making other people too to benefit, such as those who print or write books, and the manufacturers of paper or the cotton farmers and on the other hand, there are the craftsmen who process leather for shoes and the farmers who raise animals to provide leather. When it comes to music, although those who manufacture instruments and those who offer their skills for your hearing appreciation, by playing them certainly benefit, this chain of benefits ceases at you!



Before we finish the topic of music, let us add that, if the effect of music on feelings must indeed be an important need for the soul, the recitation of the Quran serves that need in a much more dignified way. This is also shown by the fact that harmonious recitation of the Quran is recommended in Islam. However, it should also be noted that a musical tune accompanying the recitation is not proper.


Oh, yeah... a real moderate bunch.
8/19/2007 7:12:17 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Cat is an asshat. He tried out every religion before finally settling for Islam.

Right before we invaded Iraq, He did an interview in which he "sang"  his hit "Peace Train". He was in full Islamic dress and said Islam did not allow musical instruments, so he sat in a chair and beat out a rhythm, and sort of chanted the lyrics to peace train.


i186.photobucket.com/albums/x71/1895mauser/cat90.jpg
Why does he think Islam forbids musical instruments?

Maybe it's the same brand that demands killing non-Muslims.

NOBODY can say with any authority that Islam either ALLOWS or FORBIDS musical instruments (or beheading non-Muslims for that matter).


8/19/2007 7:15:30 PM EDT
[#11]

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Take the band Boston for example.  You may hate it's politics but it IS great music.
8/19/2007 7:36:02 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Cat is an asshat. He tried out every religion before finally settling for Islam.

Right before we invaded Iraq, He did an interview in which he "sang"  his hit "Peace Train". He was in full Islamic dress and said Islam did not allow musical instruments, so he sat in a chair and beat out a rhythm, and sort of chanted the lyrics to peace train.


i186.photobucket.com/albums/x71/1895mauser/cat90.jpg



Why does he think Islam forbids musical instruments?


Here we go again...   Maybe you should write him a letter and get him squared away, oh great and wise Islamo-expert...

8/19/2007 9:56:59 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I like his music.


In the seventys I did also!

bob
8/19/2007 10:07:54 PM EDT
[#14]
So much for riding on the "Peace Train".

Edit: Finally I OWN page 2
8/20/2007 8:01:37 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Cat is an asshat. He tried out every religion before finally settling for Islam.

Right before we invaded Iraq, He did an interview in which he "sang"  his hit "Peace Train". He was in full Islamic dress and said Islam did not allow musical instruments, so he sat in a chair and beat out a rhythm, and sort of chanted the lyrics to peace train.


i186.photobucket.com/albums/x71/1895mauser/cat90.jpg



Why does he think Islam forbids musical instruments?


Here we go again...   Maybe you should write him a letter and get him squared away, oh great and wise Islamo-expert...


I know quite a few Muslims, have been to mosques on numerous occasions, and this is honestly the first time anyone has mentioned banning music.
Most of the Eids I have been to have live music, with some folks playing the tar.
8/20/2007 8:03:31 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Maybe it's the same brand that demands killing non-Muslims.

NOBODY can say with any authority that Islam either ALLOWS or FORBIDS musical instruments (or beheading non-Muslims for that matter).


I guess it falls in with the goofy Christian sects who disallow dancing and things like that.
8/20/2007 8:18:06 PM EDT
[#17]
He was sin't singing peace train when the taliban was running amok in Kabul.

He was a crack-pot hippe who got lost.
8/20/2007 8:36:02 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Maybe it's the same brand that demands killing non-Muslims.

NOBODY can say with any authority that Islam either ALLOWS or FORBIDS musical instruments (or beheading non-Muslims for that matter).

I guess it falls in with the goofy Christian sects who disallow dancing and things like that.

Yeah but those "goofy Christian sects" don't hijack planes, cut off heads and blow up schools to get others to stop dancing.
8/20/2007 8:39:36 PM EDT
[#19]
I guess if you are way into Harold and and Maud drama it is cool.  But the really, Cat Stevens is a homo.
8/20/2007 8:44:24 PM EDT
[#20]
Another Saturday night and I aint got no Fatwa............
8/20/2007 8:47:35 PM EDT
[#21]
Or really if you are into the Harold and Maud bullshit only to get laid- Cat Stevens is still a total homo.