Posted: 5/30/2013 3:56:39 PM EDT
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Catholic IQ Test. There are 101 questions so it may take you a while. I scored 123. ETA: Highest score in dogma, 100%. Lowest in Heaven and Hell, 25%. |
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Bible 67.57% History 100% Morality & Virtue 86.36% Heaven & Hell 50% Prayer 62.5% Dogma 100% Anti-Catholics 66.67% Sacraments 100% Mass 73.68% Special Days 100% Religious Nobles 73.33% Church Information 91.3% Miscellaneous 100% Somewhat poorly constructed, IMO. Nothing directly on free will or original sin and nothing about Aquinas and Thomism while there was a bunch of somewhat obscure stuff. I'd have had a lot more theology. |
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Bible 72.97% History 86.67% Morality & Virtue 81.82% Heaven & Hell 50% Prayer 25% Dogma 100% Anti-Catholics 73.33% Sacraments 81.82% Mass 31.58% Special Days 50% Religious Nobles 53.33% Church Information 82.61% Miscellaneous 75% I kept slipping out of my think like a Catholic mindset. Books of the Bible…66…or 72?...dooo…. The one question I feel guilty about was the Prophet quotes. No clue on the numbers of Catholics and such. Mass...whats up with the three types of cups? And the little house looking thing? |
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Quoted: There were a lot of questions in there where I thought "oh boy, my Protestant friends would have fun with this." You could've said that Martin Luther made the Bible and Catholics worship Mary and John Calvin was the first Pope. 138 Bible 72.97% History 86.67% Morality & Virtue 81.82% Heaven & Hell 50% Prayer 25% Dogma 100% Anti-Catholics 73.33% Sacraments 81.82% Mass 31.58% Special Days 50% Religious Nobles 53.33% Church Information 82.61% Miscellaneous 75% I kept slipping out of my think like a Catholic mindset. Books of the Bible…66…or 72?...dooo…. The one question I feel guilty about was the Prophet quotes. No clue on the numbers of Catholics and such. Mass...whats up with the three types of cups? And the little house looking thing?  |
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193. Of course, I have a BA in Theology from Franciscan University of Steubenville, so I better have done well... Didn't do the greatest on anti-Catholics, heresies and the miscellaneous stuff (how many Catholics are there in the US anyway?) Quoted: Chalice: holds the wine that will become the Blood of ChristMass...whats up with the three types of cups? And the little house looking thing? Ciborium: holds hosts that will become the Body of Christ. Not sure what you mean by third type of cup. Have a pic of it? Do you mean the thurible used for incense? As for the little house looking thing: that's the Tabernacle where the Eucharist is stored after Mass. A Catholic church is constructed similar to the Jewish temple (at least it used to be and still should be, IMO). Creation had 3 parts: garden of Eden, Eden, and Nod. As man sinned, he was cast out farther to the east (from garden into the east -- still in Eden. Cain was cast out to the East -- to the land of Nod). The Jews built their temple (the tent sanctuary also) in 3-parts to symbolize their return. In the east was the outer court. To the West was the Holy Place, and on the West end of that was the Holy of Holies. Inside the Holy of Holies was the Ark of the Covenant. The Catholic Church included such symbolism in architecture. Catholic churches used to face East, the symbol of the risen Christ. On the west end was the vestibule (outer court/Nod). To the east of that was the Nave (holy place/Eden), and on the east end of that was the sanctuary (Holy of Holies/garden), which contains the tabernacle symbolizing the Ark of the Covenant which contained the old covenant. Our tabernacle contains the New Covenant -- Christ himself. |
168. Not too shabby for a protestant heretic. Me and sacraments don't get along, apparently. On the other hand, anti-catholics? Nailed it. 
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183.
Some of the definitions were a little vague, but it was an interesting test. The prophet quotes were a toss up for me except Elijah. Anybody else tempted by the facetious answer to the definition of Easter? 183 Bible 33/37 89.19% History 13/15 86.67% Morality & Virtue 22/22 100% Heaven & Hell 12/12 100% Prayer 8/8 100% Dogma 9/9 100% Anti-Catholics 13/15 86.67% Sacraments 9/11 81.82% Mass 16/19 84.21% Special Days 8/8 100% Religious Nobles 11/15 73.33% Church Information21/23 91.3% Miscellaneous 8/8 100% |
I will study each missed answer and pray for guidance and retake one day.....|
160. Considering I'm not Catholic, I'd say that's respectable.
Bible 35/37 94.59% History 13/15 86.67% Morality & Virtue 15/22 68.18% Heaven & Hell 9/12 75% Prayer 8/8 100% Dogma 9/9 100% Anti-Catholics 6/15 40% Sacraments 6/11 54.55% Mass 12/19 63.16% Special Days 4/8 50% Religious Nobles 12/15 80% Church Information 23/23 100% Miscellaneous 8/8 100% |
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Quoted: guess those RCIA classes payed off  Quoted: Quoted: 193 guess those RCIA classes payed off I never got past the catuchumenate period. I think the priest was ok with my doubts, but I was not. I still attend mass on occasion with friends and family though. |
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Wait... what?? Last I remember... I never got past the catuchumenate period. I think the priest was ok with my doubts, but I was not. I still attend mass on occasion with friends and family though. Quoted:
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193 Wait... what?? Last I remember... I never got past the catuchumenate period. I think the priest was ok with my doubts, but I was not. I still attend mass on occasion with friends and family though. http://www.wordonfire.org/WOF-Radio/Lectures/Spirituality-in-the-Marketplace-Lecture-1-Why-It.aspx |
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I feel guilty that I only scored 183!
Bible 94.59% History 100% Morality & Virtue 90.91% Heaven & Hell 75% Prayer 100% Dogma 100% Anti-Catholics 86.67% Sacraments 81.82% Mass 89.47% Special Days 75% Religious Nobles 86.67% Church Information 91.3% Miscellaneous 100% |
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Not bad for an Anti-Catholic who had to put his "what would a Catholic say" hat on to answer alot of the questions. Bible 31/37 83.78% <---- I suspect this is a perspective thing having to do with the apocrypha, I put my Catholic afterwards History 10/15 66.67% <---- I suspect this is a perspective thing Morality & Virtue 20/22 90.91% Heaven & Hell 9/12 75% Prayer 7/8 87.5% <---- Dumb blind luck, I have no idea about Catholic prayers Dogma 9/9 100% <---- Umm.... I have no idea how I got 9/9 Anti-Catholics 13/15 86.67% <---- I do study some of this Sacraments 4/11 36.36% <---- Flat out guessing here Mass 6/19 31.58% <---- Flat out guessing here Special Days 6/8 75% <---- I have no clue how I got 6 Religious Nobles 4/15 26.67% <---- Flat out guessing here Church Information 15/23 65.22% Miscellaneous 8/8 100% Just some nits to pick before I stopped taking notes: Question 1: The earth was created on day 4. Question 5: Samson didn't take the Nazirite vow, his mom did it for him at the direction of an angel. Question 6: Abimelech (Judges 5?) was the first king of Israel |
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142 Not bad for an Anti-Catholic who had to put his "what would a Catholic say" hat on to answer alot of the questions. Bible 31/37 83.78% <---- I suspect this is a perspective thing having to do with the apocrypha, I put my Catholic afterwards History 10/15 66.67% <---- I suspect this is a perspective thing Morality & Virtue 20/22 90.91% Heaven & Hell 9/12 75% Prayer 7/8 87.5% <---- Dumb blind luck, I have no idea about Catholic prayers Dogma 9/9 100% <---- Umm.... I have no idea how I got 9/9 Anti-Catholics 13/15 86.67% <---- I do study some of this Sacraments 4/11 36.36% <---- Flat out guessing here Mass 6/19 31.58% <---- Flat out guessing here Special Days 6/8 75% <---- I have no clue how I got 6 Religious Nobles 4/15 26.67% <---- Flat out guessing here Church Information 15/23 65.22% Miscellaneous 8/8 100% Just some nits to pick before I stopped taking notes: Question 1: The earth was created on day 4. I can't remember what that question was but regardless, one thing to add is your fact here sort of rules out the belief that the "days" {epochs} of creation were "24-hours" since that time is governed by the relationship of the earth to the sun. Not to mention that the earth is slowing, so it was actually some other time than what we call a 24 hour "day" today." Question 5: Samson didn't take the Nazirite vow, his mom did it for him at the direction of an angel. I had to strain on that one, too, but you are evidently wrong here. The prophesy says "for the child shall be a Nazirite" so since we assume that entailed a commitment on his part, the Test was correct in its gist. Question 6: Abimelech (Judges 5?) was the first king of Israel While Abimelech was elected by the men of Shechem and Millo and was said to have "reigned over Israel", his reign was in the context of the Judges, and was clearly not affirmed by God in the same way Saul's reign was. I think we have to give the Test the nod here as well. By the way, ghengis, I actually think if you dug into the history a bit deeper...you might just lean a little closer to the Church. 
Also, on the way home I got to thinking and looked up the Nazarite vow in numbers 6. Yes, indeed, to be called a Nazarite meant you TOOK the vow. so Samson, tho consecrated by his mother made the vow himself. Now, fast forward..... Can you think of someone else {-s} whose mothers were given special notice of their special place {not necessarily Nazarite} in God's economy? How about Hannah/Samuel, Anna/John and....Mary/Jesus. |
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By the way, ghengis, I actually think if you dug into the history a bit deeper...you might just lean a little closer to the Church. Quoted:
By the way, ghengis, I actually think if you dug into the history a bit deeper...you might just lean a little closer to the Church. Doubtful. Quoted:
Also, on the way home I got to thinking and looked up the Nazarite vow in numbers 6. Yes, indeed, to be called a Nazarite meant you TOOK the vow. so Samson, tho consecrated by his mother made the vow himself. That would be an assumption. Samson of course never lived up to his fow until after he was blinded. Quoted:
Now, fast forward..... Can you think of someone else {-s} whose mothers were given special notice of their special place {not necessarily Nazarite} in God's economy? How about Hannah/Samuel, Anna/John and....Mary/Jesus. Yes. The types are quite apparent. |
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Doubtful. That would be an assumption. Samson of course never lived up to his fow until after he was blinded. No, not an assumption. re-read the Nazarite vow and you see that it is not done for you without your involvement. Certainly a mother, in this case HIS mother, could be instrumental in "dedicating" her son to the order {as in the ancient Hebrew dedication of the First Born, etc} but the order itself is identified by a VOW by the Nazarite. In other words, it is an "assumption" that the mother "did it for him" exclusively, not an "assumption that he did it". She was called to dedicate him which she did, but he would have been the one taking the vow. He states as much in Jd 16:17. where he says he "has been a Nazarite from his mother's womb", not, "my mother made me a Nazarite". His refusal to cut his hair for example was HIS choice and an example of HIS participation in the order and his commitment to the VOW. Another thing common to Protestantism is relevant here, too. I saw it in all the denominations in which I worshiped; Methodist, Evangelical Mennonite, Baptist {several conflicting flavors}, Reformed, and to a lesser degree Lutheran and Anglican. I think your interpretation also falls on the sword of Modernist Western culture where the individual is more or less all there is when it comes to religious "decision". The Bible is not a book reflective of pure individualism. We are both personally responsible for our path in life and we are the product of our culture and members of a group, hopefully...the Children of God, defined as they are in the Word. The Catholic Church has always followed this line in faith, and for example, the great message embodied in Humanae Vitae expounds on this; What WE do today effects US and OTHERS tomorrow, and it has both joyous AND grave consequences, REAL consequences, for faith. It isn't good enough to merely make a "decision" for me, myself, but rather for the community in obedience to God's wisdom and Word. This essential part of faith includes ecclesiology which of course is the study of the Church who is our Mother and.....see where we are headed....the family into which we are saved! Samson was an example of one who failed due to his "Me-first" faith. He thought only of himself in spite of his vow. At least for most of his life as it is described to us. Yes. The types are quite apparent. Quoted:
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By the way, ghengis, I actually think if you dug into the history a bit deeper...you might just lean a little closer to the Church. Doubtful. Quoted:
Also, on the way home I got to thinking and looked up the Nazarite vow in numbers 6. Yes, indeed, to be called a Nazarite meant you TOOK the vow. so Samson, tho consecrated by his mother made the vow himself. That would be an assumption. Samson of course never lived up to his fow until after he was blinded. No, not an assumption. re-read the Nazarite vow and you see that it is not done for you without your involvement. Certainly a mother, in this case HIS mother, could be instrumental in "dedicating" her son to the order {as in the ancient Hebrew dedication of the First Born, etc} but the order itself is identified by a VOW by the Nazarite. In other words, it is an "assumption" that the mother "did it for him" exclusively, not an "assumption that he did it". She was called to dedicate him which she did, but he would have been the one taking the vow. He states as much in Jd 16:17. where he says he "has been a Nazarite from his mother's womb", not, "my mother made me a Nazarite". His refusal to cut his hair for example was HIS choice and an example of HIS participation in the order and his commitment to the VOW. Another thing common to Protestantism is relevant here, too. I saw it in all the denominations in which I worshiped; Methodist, Evangelical Mennonite, Baptist {several conflicting flavors}, Reformed, and to a lesser degree Lutheran and Anglican. I think your interpretation also falls on the sword of Modernist Western culture where the individual is more or less all there is when it comes to religious "decision". The Bible is not a book reflective of pure individualism. We are both personally responsible for our path in life and we are the product of our culture and members of a group, hopefully...the Children of God, defined as they are in the Word. The Catholic Church has always followed this line in faith, and for example, the great message embodied in Humanae Vitae expounds on this; What WE do today effects US and OTHERS tomorrow, and it has both joyous AND grave consequences, REAL consequences, for faith. It isn't good enough to merely make a "decision" for me, myself, but rather for the community in obedience to God's wisdom and Word. This essential part of faith includes ecclesiology which of course is the study of the Church who is our Mother and.....see where we are headed....the family into which we are saved! Samson was an example of one who failed due to his "Me-first" faith. He thought only of himself in spite of his vow. At least for most of his life as it is described to us. Quoted:
Now, fast forward..... Can you think of someone else {-s} whose mothers were given special notice of their special place {not necessarily Nazarite} in God's economy? How about Hannah/Samuel, Anna/John and....Mary/Jesus. Yes. The types are quite apparent. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 193 Wait... what?? Last I remember... I never got past the catuchumenate period. I think the priest was ok with my doubts, but I was not. I still attend mass on occasion with friends and family though. http://www.wordonfire.org/WOF-Radio/Lectures/Spirituality-in-the-Marketplace-Lecture-1-Why-It.aspx thanks for posting that Twire, listening now. |
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I win! at not being Catholic but it was interesting ... long, but interesting. Oh.. I got a 68  but that's ok because I'm Methodist.
That's OK!! I hail from a long line of Methodists; my Father and Grandmother and Grandfather were Ministers, I was raised Methodist, have an MAR Degree in Theology/Philosophy from Asbury Theological Seminary and I can tell you there is no better preparation for full communion with the Church of Jesus than being a Methodist!
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193 Wait... what?? Last I remember... I never got past the catuchumenate period. I think the priest was ok with my doubts, but I was not. I still attend mass on occasion with friends and family though. http://www.wordonfire.org/WOF-Radio/Lectures/Spirituality-in-the-Marketplace-Lecture-1-Why-It.aspx thanks for posting that Twire, listening now. No prob. Barron is brilliant. The man could have been anything -- scientist, philosopher, writer. And he chose to be a priest. Or should I say, was chosen. |
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No, not an assumption. re-read the Nazarite vow and you see that it is not done for you without your involvement. Certainly a mother, in this case HIS mother, could be instrumental in "dedicating" her son to the order {as in the ancient Hebrew dedication of the First Born, etc} but the order itself is identified by a VOW by the Nazarite. In other words, it is an "assumption" that the mother "did it for him" exclusively, not an "assumption that he did it". She was called to dedicate him which she did, but he would have been the one taking the vow. He states as much in Jd 16:17. where he says he "has been a Nazarite from his mother's womb", not, "my mother made me a Nazarite". His refusal to cut his hair for example was HIS choice and an example of HIS participation in the order and his commitment to the VOW. Quoted:
No, not an assumption. re-read the Nazarite vow and you see that it is not done for you without your involvement. Certainly a mother, in this case HIS mother, could be instrumental in "dedicating" her son to the order {as in the ancient Hebrew dedication of the First Born, etc} but the order itself is identified by a VOW by the Nazarite. In other words, it is an "assumption" that the mother "did it for him" exclusively, not an "assumption that he did it". She was called to dedicate him which she did, but he would have been the one taking the vow. He states as much in Jd 16:17. where he says he "has been a Nazarite from his mother's womb", not, "my mother made me a Nazarite". His refusal to cut his hair for example was HIS choice and an example of HIS participation in the order and his commitment to the VOW. He certainly took the long hair aspect of the vow seriously until Delilah. As best as the record indicates, he didn't commit to any other part of the vow until after he was blinded, including his 20 year judgship. Quoted:
This essential part of faith includes ecclesiology which of course is the study of the Church who is our Mother and.....see where we are headed....the family into which we are saved! You can study "The family to which we are saved" or "called out of" depending on your conclusions from scripture. Either way, studying it is important. |
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Quoted:He certainly took the long hair aspect of the vow seriously until Delilah. As best as the record indicates, he didn't commit to any other part of the vow until after he was blinded, including his 20 year judgship.
Going back to the IQ Test, I think if I remember correctly the reference was to Samson taking the Nazarite vow. You and I both scratched our heads over it when we took the test, but I believe the writers of the test are correct in stating that he took the vow. Whether he remained honest to his vow is another thing. THAT we can agree he did not, but that he took the vow is, I believe safe to state as fact. For example, if a Priest has a wife and 6 kids we can say he has violated his vow, but we cannot say he didn't take it in the first place. |
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Quoted: Going back to the IQ Test, I think if I remember correctly the reference was to Samson taking the Nazarite vow. You and I both scratched our heads over it when we took the test, but I believe the writers of the test are correct in stating that he took the vow. That was my interpretation. You might say he wasn't a great example of a Nazarite, but he took the vow. |
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Threadus Resurrectus!
144 Not bad for a hereticheathenNon-Catholic?.
Bible 29/37 History 15/15 (nailed it!) Morality 10/22 (hmph) Heaven & Hell 9/12 Prayer 6/8 Dogma 7/9 Anti-Catholic 7/15 Sacraments 7/11 Mass 9/19 (never been to one - had no clue!) Special Days 4/8 (I'm pretty sure I got Christmas right!) Religious Nobles 12/15 Church Information 23/23 (Total guess on this part!) Miscellaneous 6/8 I'm going to send this to a Catholic friend. Just for kicks. (And they need to make the print easier to read. I'm just saying...) |