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3/14/2017 7:38:26 PM EDT
Any economy models out there worth recommending?

I don't need anything fancy, just one that is fairly accurate.

I'll hang up and listen.
3/14/2017 7:51:50 PM EDT
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Shooting chrony from midway...120-130 bucks, they don't react well to bullets though.
3/14/2017 7:58:45 PM EDT
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I gotta wonder just how many Chronies have been killed by the first shot...it's amazing how many people forget about sight height over bore.

Don't ever let some dude at the range shoot over your chronograph, that's a sure way to get it blown up.
3/14/2017 8:12:07 PM EDT
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I'll +1 the Prochrono Digital.  They have a good repair policy (you kill it, you get a new one for 1/2 MSRP + shipping).  They also recently added a bluetooth adapter & an android app for use with it.

Nick
3/14/2017 8:17:30 PM EDT
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I've been looking at both the Prochrony and f1 shooting chrony.

For only around a $100.00, I just wasn't sure if they were complete garbage or not.

Thanks, guys.
3/14/2017 8:22:24 PM EDT
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I have the ProChrony and it has been fine.....haven't shot it yet.

Vince
3/14/2017 8:26:51 PM EDT
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Chrony Alpha model... had mine maybe 20 years and no issues as yet.  Haven't checked my load data against a LabRadar or such, but I do know the velocities check out against the ballistics tables out to 1000 yds so I'm happy.

They are a bit fiddly in that you have to get the bullet to pass directly over the sensors...not much leeway, but easy enough.
3/14/2017 8:43:00 PM EDT
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I have a brand new one, unused, in box.  I thought I would re-load, and didn't.  PACT Pro XP...digital module with printer.  Perhaps we should talk.
3/14/2017 8:44:58 PM EDT
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F1 Chrony is 357 Magnum proof.

3/14/2017 9:49:37 PM EDT
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Any economy models out there worth recommending?

I don't need anything fancy, just one that is fairly accurate.

I'll hang up and listen.
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I've had my Pact Model 1 for 22 years and it's been good, if not now a bit long in the tooth.

About $100 with carrying case, back then.

I need to send it back and let them tidy things up, or send me a new one.  They want a check for $15, which seems reasonable to me.

Chris
3/14/2017 10:54:08 PM EDT
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I'd look into this,  Magneto Chrono
The advantage is that you'd have a hard time shooting it, it doesn't use a tripod or lamp stand, doesn't rely upon finding flat ground past the firing line and doesn't need a cold range to set up.

I have an Oehler 35P that I've had for a long time which I wouldn't trade, but it's old tech. and not exactly the quickest thing to set up.
3/14/2017 11:00:19 PM EDT
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I gotta wonder just how many Chronies have been killed by the first shot...it's amazing how many people forget about sight height over bore.

Don't ever let some dude at the range shoot over your chronograph, that's a sure way to get it blown up.
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I did, they nicked it but didnt kill it.

I use a radar now cus im fuckin fancy.
3/14/2017 11:02:27 PM EDT
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I'd look into this,  Magneto Chrono
The advantage is that you'd have a hard time shooting it, it doesn't use a tripod or lamp stand, doesn't rely upon finding flat ground past the firing line and doesn't need a cold range to set up.

I have an Oehler 35P that I've had for a long time which I wouldn't trade, but it's old tech. and not exactly the quickest thing to set up.
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If I were on a less than 200 dollar budget, that is what i would get.

setting up the traditional chronographs can be a pain, and the accuracy can be questionable. those magnetospeed chronys are accurate, simple to use, and impossible to outshoot.
3/14/2017 11:58:39 PM EDT
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I'll +1 the Prochrono Digital.  They have a good repair policy (you kill it, you get a new one for 1/2 MSRP + shipping).  They also recently added a bluetooth adapter & an android app for use with it.

Nick
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Didn't know that about their repair policy. Good info.

I still have yet to use it with the guns but it works great for my bow.

3/31/2017 9:10:45 PM EDT
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Just picked up the Prochrono like the one pictured above.

Another question;

I've been reading that on  sunny days these things can act up if the sun is directly on the chrono and that they should be paced in the shadow of a building or to tape cardboard to the rods. They also suggest using a black marker to black out the bullet.

How critical is doing any of this?


Is this necessary to avoid inaccurate #s or error messages? I'm not too concerned about a couple of error messages, but what numbers I get I'd like to be accurate.
3/31/2017 9:14:10 PM EDT
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Just picked up the Prochrono like the one pictured above.

Another question;

I've been reading that on  sunny days these things can act up if the sun is directly on the chrono and that they should be paced in the shadow of a building or to tape cardboard to the rods. They also suggest using a black marker to black out the bullet.

How critical is doing any of this?


Is this necessary to avoid inaccurate #s or error messages? I'm not too concerned about a couple of error messages, but what numbers I get I'd like to be accurate.
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I have an older Pact Chronograph that is sensitive to direct sunlight on the bullet sensors.
Yes, I have to tape a piece of cardboard on the skyscreens to keep the bullet sensors shaded - I haven't ever had to black out the bullet.
I have since gone to the Magnetospeed Chronograph, it doesn't have that problem but it comes with its own limitations.
3/31/2017 9:14:19 PM EDT
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I've had a chrony F1 for 10-12 years and it has given great service. It even took a hit from a .40 short and weak round and survived.
3/31/2017 9:15:12 PM EDT
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I've been reading that on  sunny days these things can act up if the sun is directly on the chrono and that they should be paced in the shadow of a building or to tape cardboard to the rods. They also suggest using a black marker to black out the bullet.

How critical is doing any of this?

Is this necessary to avoid inaccurate #s or error messages? I'm not too concerned about a couple of error messages, but what numbers I get I'd like to be accurate.
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Overcast days are best for chrono'ing.

If you really care, build a box.
3/31/2017 9:22:12 PM EDT
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This. I love mine.
3/31/2017 9:23:27 PM EDT
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I bought a Magnetospeed V3 last week.  Haven't got out to the range with it yet.  Only thing negative I've seen about them is getting them aligned with the barrel.  Probably a learning curve to get it set up correctly but once it's on there shouldn't be a problem.
3/31/2017 9:25:51 PM EDT
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I bought a Magnetospeed V3 last week.  Haven't got out to the range with it yet.  Only thing negative I've seen about them is getting them aligned with the barrel.  Probably a learning curve to get it set up correctly but once it's on there shouldn't be a problem.
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Actually it's very easy.
The only problem (and it's not really a problem) is that it screws with the barrel harmonics (at least on my rifles) so I can't really shoot for groups while simultaneously gathering velocity data - I have to do both separately.
And the damn thing won't fit on my 50...
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3/31/2017 9:58:22 PM EDT
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Have a pact pro. 20 + yrs old.  Was super cool stuff back then and works ok but it is a pain to set up.

And where I shoot is a steel bench out on blm and all by myself. I've never had it at a range where I would be holing up other shooters.
With a little time I could get the tripod placed and shoot groups and chrono at the same time.

But if I were to spend the 250 that it cost now it would be the barrel mounted unit.
3/31/2017 10:22:23 PM EDT
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My shooting chrony has been fine for years, is a little finicky.

If you go with a standard chronograph, an old trick to not shoot it; buy a cheap laser Boresighter, set up your rifle, on the bags, on target, with the boresighter in. Then set up your chrony, using a sheet of paper to center the laser dot over the chrony.

Now, as long as you shoot the target, you can't hit the chrony.

And remember to bring spare batteries for both the chronograph and the boresighter.....
3/31/2017 10:27:52 PM EDT
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Another thing to take note of is setting up the skyscreens out far enough from the muzzle so that muzzle blast doesn't mess with the reading (or blow them over).
Depending on the rifle and caliber that could be from a couple of feet to ten feet or more.
3/31/2017 10:58:27 PM EDT
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Best as in less errors, or more accurate #s? Or both?
4/1/2017 12:32:52 AM EDT
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This is what I have, it is always within 10 fps or so of the USPSA chronos at Area 3
4/1/2017 11:29:51 PM EDT
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Overcast days are best for chrono'ing.
Best as in less errors, or more accurate #s? Or both?
Best as in chrono's that use sky screens to shade the bullet sensors don't have sun-on-the-sensor problems so that they actually work repeatably (overcast acts as one humongous sky screen). 
4/2/2017 12:39:32 AM EDT
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Best as in chrono's that use sky screens to shade the bullet sensors don't have sun-on-the-sensor problems so that they actually work repeatably (overcast acts as one humongous sky screen). 
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I get that, but I guess what I'm asking is if I actually get a reading instead of an error am I good, or can the reading be inaccurate due to uneven light?
4/2/2017 10:59:58 AM EDT
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I get that, but I guess what I'm asking is if I actually get a reading instead of an error am I good, or can the reading be inaccurate due to uneven light?
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Best as in chrono's that use sky screens to shade the bullet sensors don't have sun-on-the-sensor problems so that they actually work repeatably (overcast acts as one humongous sky screen). 
I get that, but I guess what I'm asking is if I actually get a reading instead of an error am I good, or can the reading be inaccurate due to uneven light?
Ah, I don't have the same model chrony as you (I was using an early model Pact Chronograph that had sky screens that look like this internet grab).
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On mine, I just won't get a reading if it's due to the bullet sensor being washed out by the Sun.
My Pact chrony won't give inaccurate readings due to uneven light, as long as the start/stop sensors give a trigger signal it will give a reading.
The biggest cause of inaccurate readings on mine is if the sensors are located too close to the muzzle and get disturbed by the muzzle blast.
I usually have to keep my sensors located five to 10 feet in front of the muzzle (depending on the firearm), if the sensors are being "jiggled" by muzzle blast then my readings jump around.
I don't have that problem with the Magnetospeed.
Once you start using your chronograph you will get to the point pretty quickly learning when the readings aren't making sense.