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12/21/2016 12:40:26 PM EDT
Anyone use this? I heard it was good for replenishing your cardio vascular system and joints after a workout. Just curious if it has any benefits.
12/21/2016 2:15:01 PM EDT
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Anyone use this? I heard it was good for replenishing your cardio vascular system and joints after a workout. Just curious if it has any benefits.
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What do you mean by replenishing?

CoQ10 is important in electron transfer within the mitochondria (and the heart is mitochondrially dense) during aerobic respiration.  Are you taking statins?  They inhibit production of CoQ10.  Good natural (dietary) sources include heart (beef heart is cheap), sardines (cheap) and palm oil.
12/21/2016 5:27:43 PM EDT
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What do you mean by replenishing?

CoQ10 is important in electron transfer within the mitochondria (and the heart is mitochondrially dense) during aerobic respiration.  Are you taking statins?  They inhibit production of CoQ10.  Good natural (dietary) sources include heart (beef heart is cheap), sardines (cheap) and palm oil.
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No. Not taking Statin. I eat alot of buffalo wild wings, Qdoba, and Five guys. Not too much Beef Heart, sardines, or palm oil unless it's what they deep fry the chicken wings in at Bdubs. I also work out five days a week (Three days heavy weight training and two days heavy cardio), and I heard a nutritionist say this stuff is really good for the heart and cardio vascular system.

I'm getting older (36) and would like to try to take care of my heart, cardio vascular system, and joints the best I can while still eating the same foods, and I know what I eat isn't very nutritional, so I figured I'd start taking vitamins. Just curious if anyone else was taking them, or have taken them to get the outlook on it.
12/21/2016 6:03:16 PM EDT
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No. Not taking Statin. I eat alot of buffalo wild wings, Qdoba, and Five guys. Not too much Beef Heart, sardines, or palm oil unless it's what they deep fry the chicken wings in at Bdubs. I also work out five days a week (Three days heavy weight training and two days heavy cardio), and I heard a nutritionist say this stuff is really good for the heart and cardio vascular system.

I'm getting older (36) and would like to try to take care of my heart, cardio vascular system, and joints the best I can while still eating the same foods, and I know what I eat isn't very nutritional, so I figured I'd start taking vitamins. Just curious if anyone else was taking them, or have taken them to get the outlook on it.
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No magic pill will unfuck a shit diet.  You're eating a shit diet.   Best of luck to you.
12/21/2016 6:08:29 PM EDT
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No magic pill will unfuck a shit diet.  You're eating a shit diet.   Best of luck to you.
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Well I didn't come here to ask for information about my dieting. I was asking about the Co Q10. Don't be angry.
12/21/2016 7:06:43 PM EDT
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Well I didn't come here to ask for information about my dieting. I was asking about the Co Q10. Don't be angry.
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No magic pill will unfuck a shit diet.  You're eating a shit diet.   Best of luck to you.


Well I didn't come here to ask for information about my dieting. I was asking about the Co Q10. Don't be angry.



Not angry, just honest.  Do you have a reason to think your CoQ10 level is low?
12/21/2016 7:17:59 PM EDT
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Not angry, just honest.  Do you have a reason to think your CoQ10 level is low?
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I don't think it's low, I just want my body to have the proper nutrition and vitamins due to my "shit diet". I just want to make sure it's like taking a multi-vitamin. Since I've been taking multi-vitamins I haven't been sick in 5 years. I picked up fish oil, and Glucosamine Chondroitin as well.
12/21/2016 7:19:35 PM EDT
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I take it.  Not sure why.... but it has not hurt anything yet.
12/21/2016 7:39:01 PM EDT
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I take it.  Not sure why.... but it has not hurt anything yet.
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That's pretty much my take on it. It supposedly helps reduce getting cancer as well. At least that's what I'm reading on the health info.
12/21/2016 8:17:08 PM EDT
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DH's first cardiologist said to take CoQ10. DH is does take a statin.
12/21/2016 8:19:22 PM EDT
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Well I didn't come here to ask for information about my dieting. I was asking about the Co Q10. Don't be angry.
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Don't think he was being angry, just really blunt. Look at it from this perspective... I'm not saying you're doing this but between message boards and facebook groups I'm probably on 15 different forums. At least once a day somebody asks will X magic supplement unfuck my diet so I can keep eating what I'm eating? The answer is always "no, it won't outweigh your diet", and yet the question asker will usually say "oh, well that doesn't sound right, I'm going to do it anways". Why even ask? Once again, not saying that's what this is, just saying it happens a lot so most don't put a lot of effort into supplement questions in regards to poor nutrition.


To answer your question, a quick search on examine.com will give you what you're looking for and will help with any other supplements you're thinking of. The general consensus is that it might provide a benefit, but it's an expensive "might".

There is no supplement that will fix your diet. Lets say going the way you're going you live another 30 years. You can take fish oil, vitamins, coq-10, and whatever else dr. oz is peddling this week and you MIGHT get an extra day, week, or month. Now, if you ate a dozen less wings a week you'd be getting a much higher return without spending thousands of dollars on pills for the rest of your life. Diet is a huge part of your health, supplements are a small fraction of a percent, that's all.
12/21/2016 8:34:27 PM EDT
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Fix your diet first - you can't supplement past a bad diet.

Check out Keto.  

Dollars to donuts nutritional science is headed towards a massive upheaval.

On Keto, augment as appropriate.

Ubiquinol has it's place and is getting more research attention outside the realm of just supporting statin usage.

12/21/2016 8:44:08 PM EDT
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Don't think he was being angry, just really blunt. Look at it from this perspective... I'm not saying you're doing this but between message boards and facebook groups I'm probably on 15 different forums. At least once a day somebody asks will X magic supplement unfuck my diet so I can keep eating what I'm eating? The answer is always "no, it won't outweigh your diet", and yet the question asker will usually say "oh, well that doesn't sound right, I'm going to do it anways". Why even ask? Once again, not saying that's what this is, just saying it happens a lot so most don't put a lot of effort into supplement questions in regards to poor nutrition.


To answer your question, a quick search on examine.com will give you what you're looking for and will help with any other supplements you're thinking of. The general consensus is that it might provide a benefit, but it's an expensive "might".

There is no supplement that will fix your diet. Lets say going the way you're going you live another 30 years. You can take fish oil, vitamins, coq-10, and whatever else dr. oz is peddling this week and you MIGHT get an extra day, week, or month. Now, if you ate a dozen less wings a week you'd be getting a much higher return without spending thousands of dollars on pills for the rest of your life. Diet is a huge part of your health, supplements are a small fraction of a percent, that's all.
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I lost you when you said less wings, but you did say it could an extra day which is great by my standards.

It's more on replenishing my body after a hard work out. Joint pains, muscle aches, etc, etc. I know dieting would probably help, and I'll probably start next year. Mainly I'm just seeing if there would be any negative side effects taking Co Q10. Could all be in my head.
12/21/2016 8:45:10 PM EDT
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Fix your diet first - you can't supplement past a bad diet.

Check out Keto.  

Dollars to donuts nutritional science is headed towards a massive upheaval.

On Keto, augment as appropriate.

Ubiquinol has it's place and is getting more research attention outside the realm of just supporting statin usage.
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I like donuts.

Is keto good for a woman's diet? My wife and I are going to try out a point system come January. Haven't really looked into particular diet programs like adkins, paleo, or Keto.
12/21/2016 8:46:42 PM EDT
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I lost you when you said less wings, but you did say it could an extra day which is great by my standards.

It's more on replenishing my body after a hard work out. Joint pains, muscle aches, etc, etc. I know dieting would probably help, and I'll probably start next year. Mainly I'm just seeing if there would be any negative side effects taking Co Q10. Could all be in my head.
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Don't think he was being angry, just really blunt. Look at it from this perspective... I'm not saying you're doing this but between message boards and facebook groups I'm probably on 15 different forums. At least once a day somebody asks will X magic supplement unfuck my diet so I can keep eating what I'm eating? The answer is always "no, it won't outweigh your diet", and yet the question asker will usually say "oh, well that doesn't sound right, I'm going to do it anways". Why even ask? Once again, not saying that's what this is, just saying it happens a lot so most don't put a lot of effort into supplement questions in regards to poor nutrition.


To answer your question, a quick search on examine.com will give you what you're looking for and will help with any other supplements you're thinking of. The general consensus is that it might provide a benefit, but it's an expensive "might".

There is no supplement that will fix your diet. Lets say going the way you're going you live another 30 years. You can take fish oil, vitamins, coq-10, and whatever else dr. oz is peddling this week and you MIGHT get an extra day, week, or month. Now, if you ate a dozen less wings a week you'd be getting a much higher return without spending thousands of dollars on pills for the rest of your life. Diet is a huge part of your health, supplements are a small fraction of a percent, that's all.


I lost you when you said less wings, but you did say it could an extra day which is great by my standards.

It's more on replenishing my body after a hard work out. Joint pains, muscle aches, etc, etc. I know dieting would probably help, and I'll probably start next year. Mainly I'm just seeing if there would be any negative side effects taking Co Q10. Could all be in my head.

Do Keto and you can keep the wings in your diet.


12/21/2016 8:47:22 PM EDT
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I like donuts.
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Fix your diet first - you can't supplement past a bad diet.

Check out Keto.  

Dollars to donuts nutritional science is headed towards a massive upheaval.

On Keto, augment as appropriate.

Ubiquinol has it's place and is getting more research attention outside the realm of just supporting statin usage.


I like donuts.

Well - that thars a problem.
12/21/2016 8:49:21 PM EDT
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Read above. I know it's my problem.
12/21/2016 8:50:59 PM EDT
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Do Keto and you can keep the wings in your diet.
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Deep fried?
12/21/2016 9:08:20 PM EDT
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Do Keto and you can keep the wings in your diet.


Deep fried?

Well, yes (assuming they aren't breaded) - but...

You can have fried food on Keto, since Keto is a fat heavy diet (70-80% of daily cals from fat).

So while you can maintain nutritional ketosis on junk fats you aren't doing your overall health much good - aside from the weight loss from just being in Keto.

I'm a wing nut myself - and I now prefer my wings baked vs fried... though on Keto I can still grab a plate of fried ones as a guilty pleasure if the mood strikes.
12/21/2016 9:27:48 PM EDT
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Well, yes (assuming they aren't breaded) - but...

You can have fried food on Keto, since Keto is a fat heavy diet (70-80% of daily cals from fat).

So while you can maintain nutritional ketosis on junk fats you aren't doing your overall health much good - aside from the weight loss from just being in Keto.

I'm a wing nut myself - and I now prefer my wings baked vs fried... though on Keto I can still grab a plate of fried ones as a guilty pleasure if the mood strikes.
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Not breaded. Off to the internet to do research on this Keto diet.
12/21/2016 9:46:11 PM EDT
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True story.  Had a dog who had dilated cardiomyopathy. Got real sick, had to take him to the NC State veterinary hospital.  They stabilized him and after a couple of days they let me take him home with no guarantee how long he would live. Along with the medications they gave me they told me to give him CoQ 10 every day.
12/22/2016 1:23:39 PM EDT
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I lost you when you said less wings, but you did say it could an extra day which is great by my standards.

It's more on replenishing my body after a hard work out. Joint pains, muscle aches, etc, etc. I know dieting would probably help, and I'll probably start next year. Mainly I'm just seeing if there would be any negative side effects taking Co Q10. Could all be in my head.
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Hah, I have a soft spot for wings by the dozen.

Anyways, most supplements do help and it *might* do what you're looking for.... but all I was saying is it generally isn't worth the cost and usually one pill leads to another and you can be scarfing down a handful of pills/powders a day to get the same effect as just getting half an hour more sleep or drinking more water.

I used to be a huge supplement junkie and honestly the only ones I personally think are worth it are the basics. If you're concerned about general health to include joints then fish oil and some glucosamine should do the trick. Turmeric is cheap to supplement with in pill form or it goes pretty good in a lot of stews. Beyond that it's just protein, a vitamin, creatine, and coffee for the most part. There are a lot of gimmicks out there and I bought into a lot of stuff for joint health when I was like 23. I'm 29 now and my joints are healthier even though I take nothing for my joints. I feel like everyone has already hammered diet but if joints are that big an issue training volume and form tweaks will go 100 times further than popping a pill.


Anyways, another vote for keto here. I was at my leanest and strongest last year after a successful keto run of nothing but ribs, chicken wings, eggs, and a ton of greens.