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4/6/2012 1:28:06 PM EDT
Best Movies, songs and books of the Cold War Era. I am looking for the spirit or  sense of odd fatalism we had during the era.





For me movies are "When the Wind Blows" and "The War Game"



Song has to be either  "99 Luftballoons", or "2 Minutes to Midnight". Honorable mention goes to" Russians" by Sting



And book is either "On the Beach", or "Fail-safe"






 
4/6/2012 1:32:21 PM EDT
[#1]
Movie: The Day After
4/6/2012 1:44:02 PM EDT
[#2]
The Spy who came in from the Cold is always a classic.

But honestly, I think Dr. Stangelove is the epitome of cold war cinema





Speed


 
4/6/2012 2:00:25 PM EDT
[#3]
"Spies Like Us"
4/6/2012 2:02:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Damnation Alley



ETA: how could I have forgotten Red Dawn?!
4/6/2012 2:02:52 PM EDT
[#5]
Red Dawn and Invasion USA  



4/6/2012 2:06:17 PM EDT
[#6]
Movies: The Day After; Threads; When The Wind Blows; Dr. Strangelove: Fail Safe.

Books: World War III; War Day; Alas, Babylon.

Cartoons: Red Dawn.
4/6/2012 2:07:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Terminator
4/6/2012 2:08:38 PM EDT
[#8]






4/6/2012 2:11:37 PM EDT
[#9]
Remember that one where the communists gave up on war/military power as a means to world domination, and instead they infiltrated America's universities and eventually even got a commie elected preside....


Wait- never mind.
4/6/2012 2:14:17 PM EDT
[#10]
The hockey game during the Olympics
4/6/2012 2:18:25 PM EDT
[#11]
Besides the ones already mentioned:

Movies:  Damnation Alley, Fail Safe, The Miracle Mile

Book:  The Guardians series by Richard Austin.  Great ARF series––special team of warriors travel the country after an all-out nuclear war trying to rebuild it.  

Songs:  Shout by Tears for Fears,
4/6/2012 2:23:31 PM EDT
[#12]
Movie: Panic in The Year Zero!






4/6/2012 3:32:20 PM EDT
[#13]
Bump
4/6/2012 3:35:04 PM EDT
[#14]

4/6/2012 3:38:03 PM EDT
[#15]

4/6/2012 3:45:56 PM EDT
[#16]
"John Goldfarb: Please come home"

"Hopscotch"

"Don't Drink the Water"

"Deal of the Century"

"The Bedford Incident"

Okay, the first 4 are comedies but they do illustrate the lesser known, lesser feared, but still very real world of what was going on, between overflights, diplomacy, MAG's, and espionage.

The last? Well, let me put it this way.

"Oh, my God! I've created an international incident (.....that could lead to war)! It's better if no one is around to explain, not to survive, so the button pushers don't know who to blame".
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("Oh, come off it, Commodore! The Bedford won't shoot first, but if he fires one, I'll fire one!"––The Captain
"Fire one, aye aye, Sir!"––overworked Ensign completing the circuit on a depth bomb ASROC, (w,stte), "The Bedford Incident")
4/6/2012 3:47:45 PM EDT
[#17]
books out of the ashes
4/6/2012 3:53:18 PM EDT
[#18]
On the Beach.  Nevil Shute

Scared the crap out of me as a young boy.

Mike

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4/6/2012 3:58:54 PM EDT
[#19]
Team Yankee
4/6/2012 4:01:09 PM EDT
[#20]
The Manhattan Project
Broken Arrow  By Dawn's Early Light

And some theme music to go with the thread.

4/6/2012 4:11:43 PM EDT
[#21]
For books and movie add:

The Bedford Incident.




Edit to add any books and movies by LeCarre.

 
4/6/2012 4:11:56 PM EDT
[#22]
FAIL




No mention of Red Storm Rising?

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4/6/2012 4:13:19 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
On the Beach.  Nevil Shute

Scared the crap out of me as a young boy.

Mike

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I've heard of this- good things. Never seen it.

Is it Australian, or just set in Oz?
4/6/2012 4:14:45 PM EDT
[#24]

4/6/2012 4:15:32 PM EDT
[#25]
Dr. Strangelove is kind of the be all and end all of Cold War films.
4/6/2012 4:17:47 PM EDT
[#26]
Def-Con 4 (1985)



 
4/6/2012 4:21:10 PM EDT
[#27]
The Russians are Coming
4/6/2012 4:21:36 PM EDT
[#28]
Len Deighton books

game, set, match
hook, line, sinker
faith, hope, charity
winter

one hell of a series of books
4/6/2012 4:24:05 PM EDT
[#29]
The Eiger Sanction
Innocent Bystanders
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("Kaplan, you better make that dessert BLOOM!"––John Craig to the defector he got out, (w,stte), "Innocent Bystanders")
4/6/2012 4:26:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Red dawn, FireFox

Red storm rising and alas Babylon.
4/6/2012 4:27:15 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Remember that one where the communists gave up on war/military power as a means to world domination, and instead they infiltrated America's universities and eventually even got a commie elected preside....


Wait- never mind.


I started to laugh . . . . and then . . . .
4/6/2012 4:27:47 PM EDT
[#32]
White Nights

Phil Collins song Land of Confusion
4/6/2012 4:30:24 PM EDT
[#33]
War Games.
Firefox.
Dr. Strangelove
Fail Safe.
Fantastic Voyage.

Any book by Tom Clancy.


Kids today have no concept of what the cold war was about, how it affected every aspect of our daily lives. Remember ducking under your desks during bomb drills at school? Like it would help us if we got nuked.
4/6/2012 4:31:08 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Remember that one where the communists gave up on war/military power as a means to world domination, and instead they infiltrated America's universities and eventually even got a commie elected preside....


Wait- never mind.


I started to laugh . . . . and then . . . .


The Manchurian Candidate?
4/6/2012 4:34:12 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Remember that one where the communists gave up on war/military power as a means to world domination, and instead they infiltrated America's universities and eventually even got a commie elected preside....


Wait- never mind.


I started to laugh . . . . and then . . . .


The Manchurian Candidate?


With Frank Sinatra
4/6/2012 4:36:20 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Remember that one where the communists gave up on war/military power as a means to world domination, and instead they infiltrated America's universities and eventually even got a commie elected preside....


Wait- never mind.


I started to laugh . . . . and then . . . .


The Manchurian Candidate?


With Frank Sinatra


With Barak Obama.

4/6/2012 4:37:19 PM EDT
[#37]












4/6/2012 4:39:47 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
The Eiger Sanction
Innocent Bystanders
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("Kaplan, you better make that dessert BLOOM!"––John Craig to the defector he got out, (w,stte), "Innocent Bystanders")


Oh yes...The Eiger Sanction.  Definitely one of my favorite movies!!!
4/6/2012 4:39:55 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The Eiger Sanction
Innocent Bystanders


Oh yes...The Eiger Sanction.  Definitely one of my favorite movies!!!


Another one of those spy movies and on the surface, not so much Cold War. It's when one gets into the sub themes that such things become apparent.

Of course, what was used then can be used now.

Quoted:.........Kids today have no concept of what the cold war was about, how it affected every aspect of our daily lives. Remember ducking under your desks during bomb drills at school? Like it would help us if we got nuked.


That's one of the things about the 1972 failed pilot, "The Stranger". People rake it over the coals now, but having not seen it when it came out, they miss the critical points of it. When I saw it on TV when it came out, I knew nothing about it, so I had the same fears as the astronaut when he was in his hospital room.

It is often seen as a poor version of a certain Gerry Anderson movie, but its concepts pulled a lot on the era it was made in.

People tear it apart because of the apparent lack of security everywhere........but when one is in a totalitarian state, not only is iron clad security not needed everywhere but also, one does not want to make waves, question what is happening in such a world.

But since the modern viewer does not live in such a police state, they miss seeing that impact.
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(Stryker speaks a few words of Russian and when Dr. Revere doesn't respond, "You don't speak Russian, doctor?"
"No-o, no, I never had time to learn another language.", (w,stte), "The Stranger")
4/6/2012 4:40:15 PM EDT
[#40]
For me it was actually riding around on fast attack subs trailing Soviets in points North.

Guess I was living the fantasy.
4/6/2012 4:40:51 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
The Spy who came in from the Cold is always a classic.
But honestly, I think Dr. Stangelove is the epitome of cold war cinema

Speed
 


Dr. Strangelove for sure.  

The scene in the beginning where the fighter aircraft is trying over and over to catch the refueling harness from the air tanker is set to the tune "Try a Little Tenderness"  
4/6/2012 4:44:07 PM EDT
[#42]
Gwynne Dyer's series "WAR" from the early 80's will take you back




4/6/2012 4:47:09 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
For me it was actually riding around on fast attack subs trailing Soviets in points North.

Guess I was living the fantasy.


Well, that's what I was sort of worried about when I saw the topic until I saw it was about fiction.

I was afraid that one wanted us to relate the reality of things and even a score after the fact, that is something I don't talk about much.

Except, perhaps, to say this generality. People outside the intel world cannot believe the things, the restrictions that go on, but on the inside, one just takes it as the way it is.
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("I could have been canned!"––Zoe furious at her boyfriend for publishing data connected with her working for MI5, (w,stte), "MI5")
4/6/2012 4:47:34 PM EDT
[#44]
Fuck Sting.

We were 5 kids on the coast of North Carolina that had a plan of resistance
when the Reds came to do the inevitable amphibious assault.

It wasn't IF, it was WHEN.

*The plan involved stealing my buddy's grandfathers shotguns and going to our
"fort"
4/6/2012 4:47:49 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Quoted:
On the Beach.  Nevil Shute

Scared the crap out of me as a young boy.


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I've heard of this- good things. Never seen it.

Is it Australian, or just set in Oz?


It's a American movie.

The Wikipedia entry is pretty accurate.

I read the book, and saw the movie in 1965, when I was 13.

Mike
4/6/2012 4:48:49 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Team Yankee


Great book. Made me (almost) wish I'd joined the Army instead of the Navy.

Books: Red Storm Rising, Hunt for Red October

I used to save Tom Clancy books to read while at Sea. Kinda cool to read these books while at sea.


4/6/2012 4:49:56 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Team Yankee


One hell of a book.
4/6/2012 4:50:01 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
"Spies Like Us"


This and By Dawn's Early Light and frankly, at the risk of appearing homo, View to Kill.  Even the song is very 1980s Cold War peter-posturing.
4/6/2012 5:11:23 PM EDT
[#49]
My fiance is significantly younger than me, and what kinda started this was I was talking about Reforger, and mentioned the Fulda Gap... She was all "where?" and gave me the .. we have been on a Cold War paranoia TV and movie kick ever since.


Now if only I could find "Threads" on a region one dvd





Always wished they had mad "Red Storm" into a movie




 
4/6/2012 5:14:15 PM EDT
[#50]



Quoted:


Movie: Panic in The Year Zero!





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOccKTbUznk
OMG! Ray Milland fucking ruled! What a cool movie.





 
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