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6/29/2004 8:31:44 AM EDT
I have a collector hassling me about a car I cosigned for about 8 years ago. It was for a girlfriend at the time. We broke up, she moved. I got hassled about this in 1999 and I was able to find her. She told me that she traded in the car to a dealer and that the loan for the car in question was rolled over into that. So, I told the collector in 1999 about that and never heard from them again. Now it's a different collector. I'm flat ass broke right now. I have no clue were the Ex is either. She and her family are like Gypsies. I can see where she may have welched on the loan and lied to me - she turned out to be nuttier than a squirrel turd.

What should I do? Where do I start?

6/29/2004 8:34:06 AM EDT
[#1]


Sorry, but you signed for it, it's your obligation now..
6/29/2004 8:34:17 AM EDT
[#2]
With your signature on the original paper you may not be able to do much.

I don't know if you might be able to track her down and sue her?

As you can tell, I'm not a lawyer.  You may want to talk to one.
6/29/2004 8:37:36 AM EDT
[#3]
My wife said it's possible that the loan was paid off and the bank screwed up and didn't close it. How can I make sure this isn't a paperwork screw up or even fraud on the part of the auto dealer that took the car in trade?
6/29/2004 8:41:24 AM EDT
[#4]
Something else to think about - you co-signed the loan, so you should be able to get a copy of the
relevant paperwork. In that paperwork, you can get the VIN #, which your local DMV can then track
down.

You can do some investigating from there as to who owns it, where it is, etc. You still might end up
owing them $$, if the ex didn't take care of it, but it might be a start.
6/29/2004 8:43:19 AM EDT
[#5]
Way past due debt is bought and sold for pennies on the dollar.  The motivation of the buyer is the fact that they believe that they can collect where others have failed, hence the revenue is theirs.  The motivation for the seller is that they are unwilling to put any more effort into the collection, and want to get something.  

Unfortunately, you signed.  However, because this collection agency probably bought it for CHEAP (it's pretty old), you may be able to negotiate it way down.  They will play hardball but only up to a point, as they know that to some people ruining their credit further isn't really a big deal.  They also run the risk of being shut out in a bankruptcy filing.  In the end, they know that some money and cleared revenue is better than none.  
6/29/2004 8:44:22 AM EDT
[#6]
If you want to know your options and how to get the guy to stop harassing you look up "The Fair Credit Reporting Act".  You'll find all the info you need on how to deal with him...but it might not resolve the underlying problem.
6/29/2004 8:47:28 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Way past due debt is bought and sold for pennies on the dollar.  



It can also be settled for much less than is owed.  How much does he claim you owe?  Demand he prove the debt is real and have him provide the contact information for the company who says you owe them and see if it's not some type of misunderstanding.  Then if all else fails you can usually offer 50% of what they say you owe and they will take it without hesitation.
6/29/2004 8:53:41 AM EDT
[#8]
Pay for some legal advise. It will be worth it for the peace of mind alone. There might be a statute of limitations issue here too.
6/29/2004 9:00:40 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Something else to think about - you co-signed the loan, so you should be able to get a copy of the
relevant paperwork. In that paperwork, you can get the VIN #, which your local DMV can then track
down.

You can do some investigating from there as to who owns it, where it is, etc. You still might end up
owing them $$, if the ex didn't take care of it, but it might be a start.




Thanks Tanker,
Do I ask the collector for that info? Last time I did that I never heard anything more from them. I'm not trying to screw them here, I just can't afford to pay something I don't really owe. I just don't have *any* info about that car in my possession anymore.


Edited to add: Looks like Swire has answered my question, right Tanker?
6/29/2004 9:15:03 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I'm not trying to screw them here, I just can't afford to pay something I don't really owe.

 The problem is, that you do owe it if you cosigned.  The loan contract is not interested in what has happened in your life, and how badly life is screwing you over.

Them's is the breaks...
6/29/2004 9:15:35 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Way past due debt is bought and sold for pennies on the dollar.  The motivation of the buyer is the fact that they believe that they can collect where others have failed, hence the revenue is theirs.  The motivation for the seller is that they are unwilling to put any more effort into the collection, and want to get something.  

Unfortunately, you signed.  However, because this collection agency probably bought it for CHEAP (it's pretty old), you may be able to negotiate it way down.  They will play hardball but only up to a point, as they know that to some people ruining their credit further isn't really a big deal.  They also run the risk of being shut out in a bankruptcy filing.  In the end, they know that some money and cleared revenue is better than none.  



DriftPunch has got it pegged. I would not even offer 50 cents on the dollar if in fact it is a valid debt and they do come after you. Start much lower, if you have to. You also found out the hard way what co-signing is all about. Unless you intend to pay it off yourself, don't sign. No good deed goes unpunished.