[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Colt Pythons (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 9/17/2015 6:04:43 PM EDT
| Why do they command such high prices? Shot one recently, don't get me wrong it was nice, but it didn't seem to be any nicer than my 686's from a shooting perspective. They are damn nice to look at. No arguments there. |
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Why do they command such high prices? Shot one recently, don't get me wrong it was nice, but it didn't seem to be any nicer than my 686's from a shooting perspective. They are damn nice to look at. No arguments there. Do you want to shoot hot 357 magnum loads all day long? Get the 686. Do you want an expensive piece of adornment that looks and feels like it was put together by expert craftsmen and can't shoot hot 357 loads? Get the Python. |
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My guess is because they dont make em anymore. Interesting if that is truly all it is. They came from the factory with a glass smooth action. Kind of like the action on a 27,28,29 after shooting 3000 rounds through it. I could never hit shit with one, so I never bought one for myself. I bought an anaconda for my brother and paid about 340 for it wish I had bought 5. |
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Quoted: I have never seen the aura around Pythons myself, either. I grew up shooting S&W's and the Model 27 is the pinnacle of .357 magnum awesomeness IMO. The Python and Colt's cylinder latch suck. The Colt's are not as strong, and will not handle a steady diet of heavy magnum loads like the M27 will...but that trigger and accuracy of my python are superior. As for why the Colt Python is so expensive...it's because to make one today, with the skilled labor involved, you'd have a minimum $2000 pistol. You simply cannot manufacture a pistol like that, or even the older pinned and recessed Smith N Frames with the old school labor, hand fitting, polishing, etc. |
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Do you want to shoot hot 357 magnum loads all day long? Get the 686. Do you want an expensive piece of adornment that looks and feels like it was put together by expert craftsmen and can't shoot hot 357 loads? Get the Python. Quoted:
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Why do they command such high prices? Shot one recently, don't get me wrong it was nice, but it didn't seem to be any nicer than my 686's from a shooting perspective. They are damn nice to look at. No arguments there. Do you want to shoot hot 357 magnum loads all day long? Get the 686. Do you want an expensive piece of adornment that looks and feels like it was put together by expert craftsmen and can't shoot hot 357 loads? Get the Python. When you say can't. Do you mean blow up? Or, uncomfortable? |
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They came from the factory with a glass smooth action. Kind of like the action on a 27,28,29 after shooting 3000 rounds through it. I could never hit shit with one, so I never bought one for myself. I bought an anaconda for my brother and paid about 340 for it wish I had bought 5. Quoted:
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My guess is because they dont make em anymore. Interesting if that is truly all it is. They came from the factory with a glass smooth action. Kind of like the action on a 27,28,29 after shooting 3000 rounds through it. I could never hit shit with one, so I never bought one for myself. I bought an anaconda for my brother and paid about 340 for it wish I had bought 5. Performance center S&W's shot next to a Python seemed to be comparable...at least to this revolver noob. |
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Why do they command such high prices? Shot one recently, don't get me wrong it was nice, but it didn't seem to be any nicer than my 686's from a shooting perspective. They are damn nice to look at. No arguments there. Oh noez, something is rehashed on a gun board. |
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When you say can't. Do you mean blow up? Or, uncomfortable? Quoted:
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Why do they command such high prices? Shot one recently, don't get me wrong it was nice, but it didn't seem to be any nicer than my 686's from a shooting perspective. They are damn nice to look at. No arguments there. Do you want to shoot hot 357 magnum loads all day long? Get the 686. Do you want an expensive piece of adornment that looks and feels like it was put together by expert craftsmen and can't shoot hot 357 loads? Get the Python. When you say can't. Do you mean blow up? Or, uncomfortable? It will go out of time pretty damn fast, then you have to find the 1 or 2 gunsmiths left alive to fix it. |
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It will go out of time pretty damn fast, then you have to find the 1 or 2 gunsmiths left alive to fix it. Quoted:
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Why do they command such high prices? Shot one recently, don't get me wrong it was nice, but it didn't seem to be any nicer than my 686's from a shooting perspective. They are damn nice to look at. No arguments there. Do you want to shoot hot 357 magnum loads all day long? Get the 686. Do you want an expensive piece of adornment that looks and feels like it was put together by expert craftsmen and can't shoot hot 357 loads? Get the Python. When you say can't. Do you mean blow up? Or, uncomfortable? It will go out of time pretty damn fast, then you have to find the 1 or 2 gunsmiths left alive to fix it. Interesting. |
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Nobody know exactly why they recently exploded in value. For those of you stating the normal reason of being out of production that doesn't really account for the inflated price.
American Rifleman actually did a story about not too long ago. All of the snake guns have raised in value disproportionately. |
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Again noob revolver shooter here, but I just don't feel any difference between the Python and S&W performance center 686. Quoted:
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They were worth the $100-150 premium over an equivalent S&W due to the nicer finish and smoother action. Again noob revolver shooter here, but I just don't feel any difference between the Python and S&W performance center 686. Yep, that's ok. The Python has become somewhat of an icon in the revolver world and will continue to be....until they start building them again to help "revive" the Company  .
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Because the cylinder turns the correct way
Colt lovers (I grew up with one) will tell you they are more accurate because they were all hand fit by the gunsmiths descended from some magical land. They have balance that is not comparable unless discussing Excalibur and they have tight bores. Tight spaces have their places, but they are not magically endowed. The lock work is antiquated so they do lose time with hard use. Smith's are on average as accurate and balance depends a lot on the person. The biggest reason is really supply and demand. A minimally used vintage Python is a work of art. Some people pay for Picasso's works, and some think they are lame and over priced. I have made good returns on those investments though, a hell of a return. |
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1979, in the box with all the papers...unfired (except the factory custom house test load) and it's mine. 
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/cleaner1369/DSC00148_zpsxeex13zx.jpg http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/cleaner1369/DSC00151_zpsqyqari11.jpg That's purty. 
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Again noob revolver shooter here, but I just don't feel any difference between the Python and S&W performance center 686. Quoted:
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They were worth the $100-150 premium over an equivalent S&W due to the nicer finish and smoother action. Again noob revolver shooter here, but I just don't feel any difference between the Python and S&W performance center 686. There might not be.
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1979, in the box with all the papers...unfired (except the factory custom house test load) and it's mine.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/cleaner1369/DSC00148_zpsxeex13zx.jpg http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/cleaner1369/DSC00151_zpsqyqari11.jpg Wow. I have no issues admitting I am at half mast just looking at the pic. How cool is that! |
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Quoted: Oh noez, something is rehashed on a gun board. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why do they command such high prices? Shot one recently, don't get me wrong it was nice, but it didn't seem to be any nicer than my 686's from a shooting perspective. They are damn nice to look at. No arguments there. Oh noez, something is rehashed on a gun board. |
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1979, in the box with all the papers...unfired (except the factory custom house test load) and it's mine.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/cleaner1369/DSC00148_zpsxeex13zx.jpg http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/cleaner1369/DSC00151_zpsqyqari11.jpg That's purty. Thanks, she's the undisputed Queen of the Safe... I bought it from an estate many years ago. That being said, dittos on the S&W 686. The S&W is the better gun, IMHO. |
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Quoted: Again noob revolver shooter here, but I just don't feel any difference between the Python and S&W performance center 686. Quoted: Quoted: They were worth the $100-150 premium over an equivalent S&W due to the nicer finish and smoother action. Again noob revolver shooter here, but I just don't feel any difference between the Python and S&W performance center 686.  http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_5/33_Revolvers.html |
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Colt had better barrels too. Ever hear of a Smython? A custom target fad installing colt barrels on smith actions.
I have a model 19 a low round model 28 and a python. I like the 19 best but they have an Achilles heel too. The forcing cone cut to fit. The 586 fixed that. As of late the new 66 reintro did too adding height to the frame and no longer cutting the flat on the barrel outside the cone where they used to crack. (Now if they didn't have a lawyer lo k  )
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No not just rehashed, done to death and if you n bothered to search you'd see it was recent too. Quoted:
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Why do they command such high prices? Shot one recently, don't get me wrong it was nice, but it didn't seem to be any nicer than my 686's from a shooting perspective. They are damn nice to look at. No arguments there. Oh noez, something is rehashed on a gun board. ZOMG...you don't hang out with many dudes do you? We've had the same conversations at grouse and deer camp going on 20 years now... |
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Pythons were not just pretty, and not just to bash the other 'snake' Colt revolver owners, but you don't have Pythons, only bigger. Everybody else had moved on to coil springs and the Python retained the older leaf type spring. The action felt different because it was. I was always told that Pythons required and (since it was Colt's premium revolver) received more hand fitting. I know I handled several that when the hammer was locked back, had no discernible cylinder shake. That couldn't be said of other revolvers.
The Smith 686 was S&W''s answer (late in the game) to the Python. The Python was a gun unto itself, and many thought it was the best made revolver in existence. In Colt Royal blue, it really was a thing of beauty. It wasn't the best made revolver though. In my opinion, that honor went to the Freedom Arms single action revolvers, originally made for the .454 Casull. There haven't been factory handguns made that were machined and fitted to closer tolerances than those. |
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Quoted: 1979, in the box with all the papers...unfired (except the factory custom house test load) and it's mine. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/cleaner1369/DSC00148_zpsxeex13zx.jpg http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/cleaner1369/DSC00151_zpsqyqari11.jpg |
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ZOMG...you don't hang out with many dudes do you? We've had the same conversations at grouse and deer camp going on 20 years now... Quoted:
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Why do they command such high prices? Shot one recently, don't get me wrong it was nice, but it didn't seem to be any nicer than my 686's from a shooting perspective. They are damn nice to look at. No arguments there. Oh noez, something is rehashed on a gun board. ZOMG...you don't hang out with many dudes do you? We've had the same conversations at grouse and deer camp going on 20 years now... I like when they get told differently and everyone argues what the original story was 
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If only we had a forum for these revolver topics
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They were worth the $100-150 premium over an equivalent S&W due to the nicer finish and smoother action. Again noob revolver shooter here, but I just don't feel any difference between the Python and S&W performance center 686.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_5/33_Revolvers.html I come to Chotskie's GD for the atmosphere. |
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I was at a major IDPA match a few years ago where a guy in my squad was shooting a Python.
He has/had a business down in Arkansas building suppressors. At some point during the match, he said, "Yeah, I know, it is supposed to be sacrilege to be drawing and shooting a Python like this. But it's a tool is how I see it." I think I'd rather have a 686/627/625/610 myself. I think the Smith's cylinder catch is easier to manipulate. |