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6/10/2006 9:56:00 AM EDT
My subscription to McAfee is up this month and it seems like the last revision really slowed my computer down. I've heard this is a problem with McAfee in particular and need to reconsider my anti-virus program.

Does anyone have recommendations?

Do I need it with or without a firewall?

I'm currently using a 2 computer home network with digital cable connection through a router. If you need any other information please let me know.

Thanks,
6/10/2006 9:56:51 AM EDT
[#1]
AVG is free

Working in tech support they normally dont work. also internet security programs just mess up your ability to connect.
6/10/2006 9:57:14 AM EDT
[#2]
AVG is where it's at.
6/10/2006 10:06:09 AM EDT
[#3]
+1 on AVG. Using the free version right now.

Any one have a recomendation for a Linux AV program so that I can scan my network drives?
6/10/2006 10:08:20 AM EDT
[#4]
AVG on all my computers, as well as my friends..
6/10/2006 10:09:46 AM EDT
[#5]
Avast anti-virus is free for personal use. It not only is a file level virus scanner, it also will scan email, browser traffic, and instant messanger traffic.
6/10/2006 10:11:25 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
AVG is where it's at.



+100 on the AVG!
6/10/2006 11:33:05 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Avast anti-virus is free for personal use. It not only is a file level virus scanner, it also will scan email, browser traffic, and instant messanger traffic.



From my experience, avast is better than AVG (AVG should be all you need if you are not using P2P programs, though).  I use avast now to clear up infected machines for people.  AVG has missed stuff in the past that avast got.  Both are very stable and do not hog up system resources like Norton crap.

Neither AVG or Avasta are anything more than virus scanners, so you should install a firewall app too (or just use the built in XP firewall, which is primative, but works).    Make sure your if your router has a firewall, it is turned on (often they are turned off by defualt).


Free AV software:
AVG
Avast

Free software firewall:
Zone Alarm
6/10/2006 11:36:01 AM EDT
[#8]
AVG ought to work fine for you.

I use SonicWALL gateway-enforced antivirus at home myself
6/10/2006 11:46:40 AM EDT
[#9]
I recently used McAfee Enterprise with ZoneAlarm but I got sick of all the damned performance hits and whiny nature of the applications so I dumped them.

I started beta-testing Windows Live OneCare earlier in the year afterward and liked it enough to subscribe to it when Microsoft launched the product.  $49 for 1 year, which covers 3 computers.  Only works with Windows XP Home/Professional SP2 though.  (As a beta tester, I got in for $20 for the year... )

Review of OneCare

Microsoft's website for OneCare

It rolls together antivirus, antispyware, auto-backups, an enhanced bidirectional firewall, and it keeps your PC "tuned up" by running the built-in applications that users neglect (like defrag).  All-in-all, I'm an IT professional, and I really like the package.  Performance is good too since it isn't a huge memory hog.  Management is tied through a single window that's clean and easy to use.  That's my recommendation.
6/10/2006 11:48:40 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I recently used McAfee Enterprise with ZoneAlarm but I got sick of all the damned performance hits and whiny nature of the applications so I dumped them.

I started beta-testing Windows Live OneCare earlier in the year afterward and liked it enough to subscribe to it when Microsoft launched the product.  $49 for 1 year, which covers 3 computers.  Only works with Windows XP Home/Professional SP2 though.  (As a beta tester, I got in for $20 for the year... )

Review of OneCare

Microsoft's website for OneCare

It rolls together antivirus, antispyware, auto-backups, an enhanced bidirectional firewall, and it keeps your PC "tuned up" by running the built-in applications that users neglect (like defrag).  All-in-all, I'm an IT professional, and I really like the package.  Performance is good too since it isn't a huge memory hog.  Management is tied through a single window that's clean and easy to use.  That's my recommendation.




Sounds Interesting.
6/10/2006 11:55:28 AM EDT
[#11]


Quoted:
AVG is free

Working in tech support they normally dont work. also internet security programs just mess up your ability to connect.



+ 1.I don't know how many people I spoken to that had norton on their computers and it stoped them from getting their email with Outlook. Remove Norton problem goes away.

Mcafee is just as bad. Let the subscription expire and you no longer connect to the internet. Remove it and you're free to surf all you want.

6/10/2006 11:58:12 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Sounds Interesting.


It is, I think you can try it for free for 90 days so I can't hurt to give it a shot.  I talked with one of the programmers that worked on the AV engine, and they are pretty proud of their work.  The Windows Defender Antispyware component it uses is available as a free-standalone product as well--I like it enough that I rolled it out (even in beta) to our corporate network and dumped the other applications we were using.  Microsoft really has a strong product here, and the price is extremely reasonable given what you get.

I dislike the home-user McAfee "security center" products because they are bloated garbage.  Too much graphics, too much user-cuteness, too much junk.  I can't recommend them to anyone.  Symantec has gone the same way too.  Those programs use so many system resources that it hurts just to use the computer.  ZoneAlarm is also pretty good about locking your system up when you go to a fullscreen application (like a 3d game) that's querying the network; ZoneAlarm locks the traffic waiting for your response to "is this ok" while you are stuck in a window you can't necessarily alt-tab out of easily.  OneCare doesn't have the same lock-prone effect.

Is OneCare perfect?  I dunno, but I've been using for several months now and I'm extremely happy with it with no major complaints.  I play with the fancy crap at work, like Cisco PIX firewalls and enterprise managed AV solutions, but I want something way, way easier for home.  Hunting ducks with a tank, you know?
6/10/2006 12:09:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Here is a tip, don't use one.

Getting a computer virus is like getting an STD, if you don't fuck every piece of trash you find on the street, your chances of getting one is drastically reduced.
6/10/2006 12:43:52 PM EDT
[#14]
Best deal out there,get a free year of CA.
CA Trial
6/10/2006 1:06:19 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Best deal out there,get a free year of CA.
CA Trial



exactly what i was going to post  
6/10/2006 1:25:20 PM EDT
[#16]
I use McAfee it's a bloated pig.  I takes almost 3 minutes to boot up my 3ghz 1024MB laptop!  I left Symantec as well cause it was worse.  Maybe I'll See Comuter Associates and Microsoft.

Thanks.
6/10/2006 2:25:37 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Here is a tip, don't use one.

Getting a computer virus is like getting an STD, if you don't fuck every piece of trash you find on the street, your chances of getting one is drastically reduced.



IMO not good advice because of exploits that require minimal user action such as ones where a user just opens a .jpg file or views a website and there is some exploit that is unpatched, but still detected by the AV software.  
6/10/2006 2:29:10 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Here is a tip, don't use one.

Getting a computer virus is like getting an STD, if you don't fuck every piece of trash you find on the street, your chances of getting one is drastically reduced.



This would be good advice if you never went online ever.

However, internet viruses can come from the most unexpected places. Having an anti-virus program such as AVG is just basic commen sense and security.
6/10/2006 2:32:01 PM EDT
[#19]
I use SYSTEM MECHANIC 6 PROFESSIONAL. Used it for two years now. It gives you anti-virus program, anti spyware program, and a anti hacker program(firewall). Plus a computer fix it utility which has tons of useful stuff in it.   Just my two cents.
6/10/2006 2:55:45 PM EDT
[#20]
This one works great and its free AntiVir.
6/10/2006 2:58:16 PM EDT
[#21]
Zone Labs Security Suite
6/10/2006 3:00:08 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Best deal out there,get a free year of CA.
CA Trial



I'm running that with Vista Beta 2 and it doesn't work at all, it shuts itself off on boot up after the tray device self destructs.    I use AntiVir on my XP computer, and Avast on the XP 64 bit one.  Both work 100% for me.  
6/10/2006 3:00:55 PM EDT
[#23]

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This one works great and its free AntiVir.



+1 for a great program, I have been using it for several years.  
6/10/2006 3:09:26 PM EDT
[#24]
Besides AVG and other Anti-Virus Software..
www.download.com has lots of free utilities, etc.
6/10/2006 3:22:19 PM EDT
[#25]
Get AVG to start with.
6/10/2006 3:22:32 PM EDT
[#26]
I often use a still-photo capture program that takes photos from digital video (digital 8mm, mini-digital, etc.) When the last update of McAfee came out, the captured photos (jpeg files) would often be streaked and/or blurry, especially if there was a lot of detail in the background, like a brick building. Or if there was a lot of motion in the video but still was capable of capturing invividual frames in NTSC standard 29.97 frames per second. Anyway, the pictures began to suck because they were so blurry. This had not been a problem since I had begun using the same program 4 years ago.

Hopefully, it was the antivirus program that was dogging-down the speed and capture quality.
6/10/2006 3:23:36 PM EDT
[#27]
Norton Corp
No bloat and never had a virus
6/10/2006 4:35:12 PM EDT
[#28]
my brother in law is an electrical engineer uses avg and has a virus like twice a week. my boss also uses it and also has viruses. i use norton pro and have never had a virus since switching from mccafee
6/10/2006 5:45:14 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
my brother in law is an electrical engineer uses avg and has a virus like twice a week. my boss also uses it and also has viruses. i use norton pro and have never had a virus since switching from mccafee



well daa because norton doesn't catch it


norton =  tHe SuCKaGe
mcafee sucks too
6/10/2006 5:55:03 PM EDT
[#30]
Ive been using Norton for years, and havent had any viruses, and its easy to use, but its a major system hog.

I just staterd using Trend Micro Pc Cilliand., and REALLY like it a lot. Cant say enough about it. My PC starts up much quicker. I did a lot of research on it on differnt PC sites and all rated it very good, many of them rated #1..

Ive never heard of AVG before, amybe ill check it out, but too be honest im really happy with TM for now anyway.
6/10/2006 6:06:59 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
my brother in law is an electrical engineer uses avg and has a virus like twice a week.


How does this have any bearing?
6/10/2006 6:08:42 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
my brother in law is an electrical engineer uses avg and has a virus like twice a week.


How does this have any bearing?



my buddy is a microsoft programmer.    i have him fix my hardware problems

omg you don't know how many timesi hear that one
6/10/2006 10:14:34 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
Ive been using Norton for years, and havent had any viruses, and its easy to use, but its a major system hog.

I just staterd using Trend Micro Pc Cilliand., and REALLY like it a lot. Cant say enough about it. My PC starts up much quicker. I did a lot of research on it on differnt PC sites and all rated it very good, many of them rated #1..


Big +1 for Trend Micro PC-Cillin
6/10/2006 10:39:25 PM EDT
[#34]
I get the message "Cannot find 'http://trafficsolution.com/bc/adrotator.php'.  Please make sure path or internet address is correct."  This pops up every 5 minutes, AVG wont stop it, just did a full scan with it followed by Norton with no results.  IE is terminally ill, and this pop-up is on Mozilla Firefox, which I thought was safe.  I now get pop-ups left and right on Firefox, although not as bad as when I used IE.  I would shoot the comp if I didnt feel a reformatting would be cheaper and smarter to do.
6/11/2006 4:55:43 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
I get the message "Cannot find 'http://trafficsolution.com/bc/adrotator.php'.  Please make sure path or internet address is correct."  This pops up every 5 minutes, AVG wont stop it, just did a full scan with it followed by Norton with no results.


That is spyware or malware, not a virus. You need to get the following programs and run them all:

* Adaware
* Spybot - Search and Destroy
* HijackThis

You should install a firewall (not XP) in order to prevent outbound connections from trojans or other spy/mal-ware. I am running Sygate Personal Firewall (free). I chose it ober ZoneAlarm because the free version of ZA did not have the same level of protection and it seemed like bloatware. I'm currently blocking most outbound traffic from applications attempting to "call home" (Windows Media Player, iTunes, etc).
6/11/2006 9:31:17 AM EDT
[#36]
HijackThis seems a bit over my head, a lot f stuff on the scan that I know are supposed to be there and a lot I dont know about.  Im scanning with the AdAware right now.
6/11/2006 9:38:47 AM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
HijackThis seems a bit over my head, a lot f stuff on the scan that I know are supposed to be there and a lot I dont know about.  Im scanning with the AdAware right now.



scan WITH logfile and then copy and paste to this page hijackthis.de  it will analyze and tell you about the files and what to remove
6/11/2006 9:54:57 AM EDT
[#38]
I used AVG free for a while, then bought Norton Security off ebay for like 20 bucks. It's like 60+ at Wal-Mart. My computer is 3 years old and still runs like it did the day I took it out of the box. It's a hoss. So my recommendation is NORTON SECURITY which has antivirus, antispam, no popups, etc.
6/11/2006 10:27:49 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
I used AVG free for a while, then bought Norton Security off ebay for like 20 bucks. It's like 60+ at Wal-Mart. My computer is 3 years old and still runs like it did the day I took it out of the box. It's a hoss. So my recommendation is NORTON SECURITY which has antivirus, antispam, no popups, etc.


To each their own, I suppose, but the first thing I usually do when people are complaining about how slow their computers are is remove Norton security and install AVG, Spybot and Zone alarm.
You coudn't pay me to have Norton Security on my computers...
6/11/2006 10:36:20 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
I recently used McAfee Enterprise with ZoneAlarm but I got sick of all the damned performance hits and whiny nature of the applications so I dumped them.

I started beta-testing Windows Live OneCare earlier in the year afterward and liked it enough to subscribe to it when Microsoft launched the product.  $49 for 1 year, which covers 3 computers.  Only works with Windows XP Home/Professional SP2 though.  (As a beta tester, I got in for $20 for the year... )

Review of OneCare

Microsoft's website for OneCare



Amazon has a subscription of One Car for $19.99

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FA36WY/qid=1150050921/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-4214790-3088732?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=229534

Looks pretty decent, and that it can be installed on up to three computers is nice.
6/11/2006 11:00:50 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
My subscription to McAfee is up this month and it seems like the last revision really slowed my computer down. I've heard this is a problem with McAfee in particular and need to reconsider my anti-virus program.

Does anyone have recommendations?

Do I need it with or without a firewall?

I'm currently using a 2 computer home network with digital cable connection through a router. If you need any other information please let me know.

Thanks,



AVAST, I support close to 250 computers where I work and they use Norton enterpise. I have had several problems with norton not catching viruses or it will put them in quarantine and not let the virus be deleted. Every time this happens I uninstall norton and install AVAST to fix the problem. I also contract on the side and all of my clients get AVAST it is free for personal use and is better then mcaffe, norton or anything else I have used. It updates automatically and all you have to do is register once a year and you will be good to go. You fill out an online form and they email you a key no spamming. If you are weary about personal info the only thing that has to be valid info is your email address. I would never pay for personal antivirus software as long as AVAST is around.

Download here   AVAST
6/11/2006 11:05:33 AM EDT
[#42]
Oh and by the way just remember you can get a virus on your computer no matter what kind of firewall or antivirus software you use. It all has to do with user habits and having common sense about what you do on the Internet. There are ways arouns every security device, every anitvirus program I have encountered used a virus definition database which will not catch every virus known to man, some used more sophisticated methods but still there are ways around everything.
6/11/2006 11:10:43 AM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
HijackThis seems a bit over my head, a lot f stuff on the scan that I know are supposed to be there and a lot I dont know about.  Im scanning with the AdAware right now.



scan WITH logfile and then copy and paste to this page hijackthis.de  it will analyze and tell you about the files and what to remove



Thanks, will do.
6/11/2006 11:13:04 AM EDT
[#44]
My low-cost (free) security suite:

AVG
ZoneAlarm (going all the way back to 1st public release)
Spybot Search'n'destroy
AdAware

Never have had a problem.

ETA:  Microsoft produces professional (?) grade spyware
6/11/2006 11:13:05 AM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:
Norton Corp
No bloat and never had a virus



+100
Norton/Symantec Corporate Edition
I have this on my home computers and on all the network computers at work that I support.  Never had a virus get through.   It runs a very low profile, no bloat.  I never notice it even being there.  This is very different than the Norton Home editions or Systems tools which are very resource intensive.
6/12/2006 4:19:54 PM EDT
[#46]
tag.
6/12/2006 4:25:23 PM EDT
[#47]
I've been running AVG forever. It's free, and it does what I ask it to.

The suggestions for AVAST are worth looking into. I might give it a shot sometime.
6/12/2006 4:27:39 PM EDT
[#48]
AV is just one part of an entire protection suite a home compter should have. You also want a tool that addresses spamming, spyware/malware.

My recommendatio would be a commercial product from the big three, Symantic, McAfee or Trend Micro. Personally use Trend Micro on all my home pcs....their PC-illin Internet Security 2006. It is a relatively easy product to use and install for the novice user.
6/12/2006 4:38:19 PM EDT
[#49]
AVG if you've gotta go free, I guess, but it has/had its own bugs. Symantec Corporate AntiVirus is just about the best commercial one I've found. Much smaller and more robust than its Norton equivalent, the latest versions of which -- like McAfee -- are virtual pigs.