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1/21/2009 3:39:48 AM EDT
Just thinking . . .

To derail this government, what if 70 million working conservatives suddenly claimed 10 dependants on their W-2 form and withheld less income tax per paycheck?

Would that hurt this socialist experiment?

I bet we could shut it down in a couple of months . . .
1/21/2009 3:40:47 AM EDT
[#1]
What if you went to jail



Bet you would shut down in a day
1/21/2009 3:44:23 AM EDT
[#2]
You don't go to jail for changing your withholding.

Do you have any intelligence?
1/21/2009 3:47:15 AM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:

You don't go to jail for changing your withholding.



Do you have any intelligence?
No I dont, I see you are the one with all the brains

1/21/2009 3:49:34 AM EDT
[#4]
They'd just print more and then demand you pay the difference later.




1/21/2009 3:51:11 AM EDT
[#5]
I always withhold more.  THough it is painful,  having to write a check.
1/21/2009 3:53:34 AM EDT
[#6]
Come April 15th the .gov would get a huge influx of money.  That is all.
1/21/2009 3:56:39 AM EDT
[#7]
Instead of spending the next 4 years protesting and being negative the conservatives should stop blaming everyone else for their problems and work on rebuilding the party.
1/21/2009 4:03:24 AM EDT
[#8]

No I dont, I see you are the one with all the brains


Typical conformist New Yorker.
1/21/2009 4:17:17 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Instead of spending the next 4 years protesting and being negative the conservatives should stop blaming everyone else for their problems and work on rebuilding the party.


What party?  You sure aren't talking about the Republican party if you're talking conservative.
1/21/2009 4:34:56 AM EDT
[#10]
The Republican party is dead. Real conservatives need to form a new party.
1/21/2009 4:41:04 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Instead of spending the next 4 years protesting and being negative the conservatives should stop blaming everyone else for their problems and work on rebuilding the party.


the HELL you say.

I wants my welfare check and Escalade.



j/k
1/21/2009 5:04:35 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Instead of spending the next 4 years protesting and being negative the conservatives should stop blaming everyone else for their problems and work on rebuilding the party.

Wake up and smell the coffee.  We are FUCKED, and, nothing is going to change that.  

1/21/2009 5:09:00 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
What if you went to jail

Bet you would shut down in a day



Its legal. Back in the day when I had a $2200 mortgage
we claimed 7 and received an extra $550 a month take
home to help make the payment.
Essentially you are just getting your refund monthly anyway.
1/21/2009 5:14:33 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
The Republican party is dead. Real conservatives need to form a new party.


I agree 100%.  Now where do we begin?
1/21/2009 5:15:15 AM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:



No I dont, I see you are the one with all the brains





Typical conformist New Yorker.
You just made my point
1/21/2009 5:21:14 AM EDT
[#16]
Either you geniuses can claim max dependants, or the .gov will just issue you an IOU like California will...get your money while you can.
1/21/2009 5:23:47 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
No I dont, I see you are the one with all the brains


Typical conformist New Yorker.
You just made my point



No, you just made mine.  Now go back to bed.

1/21/2009 5:27:30 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What if you went to jail

Bet you would shut down in a day



Its legal. Back in the day when I had a $2200 mortgage
we claimed 7 and received an extra $550 a month take
home to help make the payment.
Essentially you are just getting your refund monthly anyway.
How many were actually in your family? If just you and the wife and a kid or 2, you must have had to pay back a shit load at tax time. I'd rather break even or get a little bit of a rebate then have to write a check for a couple grand.

1/21/2009 5:42:53 AM EDT
[#19]
I proposed something similar here: Link


It's a "W4" form at your workplace to file those changes, and it's called a "withholding exemption". All it does is change the income amount that is withheld in your paychecks. You can let the govt hold your money all year, or you can keep it and pay it when you file your tax return. The total amount of income taxes you owe for the work year is the same regardless of the withholding exemptions that you claim.


here's an example, and these numbers aren't accurate because I don't want to take the time researching the income tax tables:

Let's say you make $50K a year and your total federal income tax liability after deductions is $6000. If you claim "0" W4 exemptions, you'll pay in $7500 throughout the year and get a $1500 refund. If you claim "5" W4 exemptions, you'll pay in $4000 throughout the year and owe $2000 on April 15th. The total tax liability is still $6000 regardless.
1/21/2009 5:43:28 AM EDT
[#20]
school out today too?
1/21/2009 6:53:46 AM EDT
[#21]
<Ignoring the moron>

You could place the extra money each month in a money market account and earn interest on the withholding.  $1000 of taxes in the bank could earn enough for dinner out.  The .gov would not get paid until April 15.  If enough people did it, it would throw the Treasury off because they have to make interest payments at least monthly.
1/21/2009 7:08:01 AM EDT
[#22]
this year will be my first year of claiming more than zero.  Im just pissed off with all of the bullshit going on, and I will be holding my money till the last minute.

no more interest free loans here.
1/21/2009 7:25:33 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The Republican party is dead. Real conservatives need to form a new party.

I agree 100%.  Now where do we begin?

As much as I disagree with some of their stances, the libertarian party stands closest to the Reagan Principles.
1/21/2009 7:31:38 AM EDT
[#24]
For one thing, you can't get half a shitload of us to even cough up NRA dues.


How are you going to organize 10 million home owners?
1/21/2009 7:57:09 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Quoted:
You don't go to jail for changing your withholding.

Do you have any intelligence?
No I dont, I see you are the one with all the brains


Thank you. You provided a good laugh during a boring day as work!

1/21/2009 1:45:28 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Instead of spending the next 4 years protesting and being negative the conservatives should stop blaming everyone else for their problems and work on rebuilding the party.


What party?  You sure aren't talking about the Republican party if you're talking conservative.


That is exactly what I mean about it having to be rebuilt.  I almost put "conservatives" in quotes because conservatives no longer fit into the the Republican party.  There was a news article yesterday called "Obamamania hasn't reached Wyoming". http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/20/wyoming.gop.inauguration/  It is about real Republicans.  Here is a small part of it.


Mueller and a handful of other Republicans sit in the coffee shop of the historic Plains Hotel on this windy January morning, chatting about the incoming administration and their mixed feelings.

These are back-to-basic Republicans. They want small government, strong national defense and an emphasis on individual liberties and accountability.


Surely there has to be more people who actually believe in these same values then us crazy gun nuts and a few old hicks in Wyoming.  CNN calls it "back-to-basic" Republicans.  How do we start taking back the party?

1/21/2009 1:46:27 PM EDT
[#27]
After the election I don't think there are 70 million conservatives in NORTH AMERICA, let alone the US
1/21/2009 1:52:36 PM EDT
[#28]
Never heard of Form 2210 huh?

You can't do that.
1/21/2009 1:54:10 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Instead of spending the next 4 years protesting and being negative the conservatives should stop blaming everyone else for their problems and work on rebuilding the party.


True but they are not my problems caused by me they are someone elses problems taken out on me.
1/21/2009 1:59:42 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What if you went to jail

Bet you would shut down in a day



Its legal. Back in the day when I had a $2200 mortgage
we claimed 7 and received an extra $550 a month take
home to help make the payment.
Essentially you are just getting your refund monthly anyway.


Just be sure your state tax is not tied into the fed...RI tax is a percentage of your fed tax and if you owe your state, it WILL get ugly.
Ask me how I know.
1/21/2009 2:04:09 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Instead of spending the next 4 years protesting and being negative the conservatives should stop blaming everyone else for their problems and work on rebuilding the party.

Wake up and smell the coffee.  We are FUCKED, and, nothing is going to change that.  



That's what the Founding Fathers said, when a full 2/3 of their country didn't believe in their cause of want any part of a revolution. "We are FUCKED", one of Thomas Paine's more moving quotes.

Hey, did you ever get the feeling you're a lousy American? You should.
1/21/2009 2:12:41 PM EDT
[#32]



Quoted:

<Ignoring the moron>



You could place the extra money each month in a money market account and earn interest on the withholding. $1000 of taxes in the bank could earn enough for dinner out. The .gov would not get paid until April 15. If enough people did it, it would throw the Treasury off because they have to make interest payments at least monthly.




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